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Deep Purple
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by speigel:
“can't beleive people still go on about them. they weren't that great. and those whinny voices arrgggh shut up. couldn't care less if they were the first to do this and that, it's boring.”

Probably because many millions actually like them.

You thinking they are boring does not mean it is true.

We all like different things. Who are your favourites? Perhaps you'll find not everyone loves them.

They were far from boring when they were the pioneers of modern music, and much of it still sounds good today.
stevieboy378
09-09-2009
Noise levels are significantly lower on all the remastered albums, and every track has been treated with compression / limiting to increase overall "loudness", although, thankfully, it has been used carefully, so we're not treated to the type of aural assault that is all too common with modern musical compression.
The music itself doesn't appear to have been tinkered with in any way - all the background stuff ( bits of studio chatter such as George's counting on "Within You, Without You" for example ) and mistakes ( such as the duff piano chord in "Let It Be" ) are intact, and better heard in fact, due to the noise reduction. How many people for example have heard John cheer when Paul sings the line "Made my way upstairs and had a smoke" in "A Day In The Life" ? - well now they can . . ..
Andy2
09-09-2009
Apparently these remastered CD's were sourced from the original stereo masters, so they haven't gone back to the multi-tracks. Which is good news as they probably wouldn't have been able to resist tinkering and removing stuff (like John's cheer).
STEVE 03
09-09-2009
A little OT, but has anybody heard Paul McCartney's solo song 'Uncle Albert' recorded in 1970 a short while after the Beatles split up? This song reminds me so much of the Beatles records. This song is basically 3 incomplete songs pieced together by McCartney, which is something apparently The Beatles themselves did with a few of their songs when they were together.

But this song is awsome. I had convinced myself originally that this song was written and made especially for an 'Only Fools and Horses' episode in 1988 (to represent the Uncle Albert character) for which this song appears in. It wasn't until recently that I realised this song was recorded in 1970
Andy2
09-09-2009
'Uncle Albert'/Admiral Halsey(hands across the water)' is from Paul's solo album 'Ram'. It's a great collection of songs, including 'Heart of the country', Monkberry Moon Delight' (a cracking rocker) and the wonderful 'Back seat of my car'.
Buy it now or I'll want to know why not!
Deep Purple
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by Andy2:
“'Uncle Albert'/Admiral Halsey(hands across the water)' is from Paul's solo album 'Ram'. It's a great collection of songs, including 'Heart of the country', Monkberry Moon Delight' (a cracking rocker) and the wonderful 'Back seat of my car'.
Buy it now or I'll want to know why not!”

I've always liked that album, although it was not greatly received at the time.
Toby Latimer
09-09-2009
There's a minefield of opinion/reviews on the Steve Hoffman [respected audiophile engineer] forums http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2
mushymanrob
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by speigel:
“can't beleive people still go on about them. they weren't that great. and those whinny voices arrgggh shut up. couldn't care less if they were the first to do this and that, it's boring.”

whilst they may not to be your PERSONAL taste, the facts are that they WERE and still are 'that great'... dont underestimate the magnitude of this group, it really would be foolish.
Capablanca
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by aaronon:
“I love Back In The USSR off the White Album.

My favourite track off that album is Sexy Sadie though.
”

They're both crackers! Love the Beach Boys pastiche in USSR.

I also love 'I'm So Tired' and 'Happiness Is A Warm Gun' (great title).

Actually the whole album is pretty darn good!
STEVE 03
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by Andy2:
“'Uncle Albert'/Admiral Halsey(hands across the water)' is from Paul's solo album 'Ram'. It's a great collection of songs, including 'Heart of the country', Monkberry Moon Delight' (a cracking rocker) and the wonderful 'Back seat of my car'.
Buy it now or I'll want to know why not!”

Ah right, thanks for the heads up. I will definately buy this. I think out of all the Beatles, Paul is my favourite Beatle. His voice is amazing.
moordown66
09-09-2009
They don't get enough credit imho. Seriosuly!
Andy2
09-09-2009
My only complaint about the White Album remaster is that the CD's are too tight in the packing and won't slide out easily. I hate having to grab them and pull!
LeeSheard
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by Andy2:
“'Uncle Albert'/Admiral Halsey(hands across the water)' is from Paul's solo album 'Ram'. It's a great collection of songs, including 'Heart of the country', Monkberry Moon Delight' (a cracking rocker) and the wonderful 'Back seat of my car'.
Buy it now or I'll want to know why not!”

I like the song as well but that middle part with Linda is Macca at his wettest
David Tee
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by Deep Purple:
“I've always liked that album (Ram), although it was not greatly received at the time.”

Me too - one of my all time favourite albums.

It was McCartney's first proper response after the Beatles broke up (his previous solo album was recorded while they were still together). For me, "Ram" is utterly insane - McCartney allowing his creativity full flight, propelled by a fair amount of Jamaica's finest, and all done without any concept of self-editing (sadly the last time he would do so). In many ways it's the lunatic cousin of "Abbey Road". Gloriously bonkers.
xmsradx
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by Deep Purple:
“I've always RAM, although it was not greatly received at the time.”

I love it too. "Ram" and "Tug of War" are my favourite Paul McCarntey albums.

Imo, "Backseat of my Car" and "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" could well be Beatles songs... they're good enough. In fact, I think "Backseat of my Car" was intended to be - there's a recording of the Beatles rehearsing it.
LeeSheard
09-09-2009
Paul McCartney - Temporary Secretary

Recorded in 1980

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdTs-iLBKME


Somebody has done a cool mix.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEK4e...eature=related

"You know what, i'll be honest. The first time I played this song, from McCartney II, I thought there was something wrong with my turntable." a comment from youtube
Troy Edwards
09-09-2009
Maybe I'm Amazed is, um, amazing.
CABLEDUDE
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by xmsradx:
“I love it too. "Ram" and "Tug of War" are my favourite Paul McCarntey albums.

Imo, "Backseat of my Car" and "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" could well be Beatles songs... they're good enough. In fact, I think "Backseat of my Car" was intended to be - there's a recording of the Beatles rehearsing it.”

Tug of War is my favourite too, I love Tug of War, Wanderlust, the Pound is Sinking and Ballroom Dancing, brilliance.

Temporary Secretary is superb, but I prefer Coming Up.
Capablanca
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by Troy Edwards:
“Maybe I'm Amazed is, um, amazing.”

Love that...the 'McCartney' album is my favourite solo album of any Beatle...'Teddy Boy', 'Every Night'' and 'Junk' are fab!
xxtimbo
09-09-2009
QUOTE

The thing about them is that if you listen to any Lennon/McCartney song you'll *know* whether it's a Paul song, or a John song.
That's what makes both as great as each other, they both have amazing songs that are unique to themselves.
(Though Johns are more based on personal experiences, family etc, where as Pauls tend to be idealic songs about "love" in general without being too personal).
END QUOTE

THATS exactly right for much of their Beatle career, they did nt write the songs together paul would perhaps listen to one of Johns songs and suggest a line or two and give opinion etc but its absurd to say a melody can be jointly written.

Go back to the past... Schubert, Beethoven etc, all individual it wasnt
a tune by Beethoven and his mate Fred.

Of course there are writing combos.. Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice
Elton John and Bernie Taupin but one was the melody writer one was the lyricist.
In Abba you have Bjorn... the lyricist
and Benny... the tunesmith.
The amazing part about John and Paul is that they were brilliant at writing melodies and equally brilliant lyricists.

I just think that a lot of those early songs of the Beatles that had all that energy and excitement that really ignited Beatlemania.. songs like.... She Loves You.... Not a Second Time,,, Please Please Me.... I Want to Hold Your Hand were written by John.... he was really the driving force... the powerhouse behind Beatlemania.

Then in the mid 60s .. his song Tommorow never Knows..... led the way into the psychedelic era.... albeit inspired by some dodgey substances... but then ... hey... this is rock and roll !
stevieboy378
09-09-2009
This is what I like to see - plenty of Macca love . . . . .
stevieboy378
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by xxtimbo:
“songs like.... She Loves You.... Not a Second Time,,, Please Please Me.... I Want to Hold Your Hand were written by John.... he was really the driving force... the powerhouse behind Beatlemania.”

Both the songs I've highlighted were written by Lennon AND McCartney . . . .

Quote:
“Then in the mid 60s .. his song Tommorow never Knows..... led the way into the psychedelic era”

What makes that song so psychedelic ? - the tape loops and strange noises - and who was responsible for those - Yup - McCartney . . . .
David Tee
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by xxtimbo:
“
THATS exactly right for much of their Beatle career, they did nt write the songs together paul would perhaps listen to one of Johns songs and suggest a line or two and give opinion etc but its absurd to say a melody can be jointly written.”

No it's not absurd - that's exactly how it happened. The pair of them would be "eyeball to eyeball", jamming away on guitars or side by side on the piano. One of them (it could have been either) would change a chord, the other would follow, the melody would develop and the song would progress...

Granted it was mostly the early stuff but even on the later songs there are many examples where they were both writing the melody (example: McCartney wrote the "I'd love to turn you on" melody in what is considered to be the Lennon section of "A Day In The Life")
jamestay1
09-09-2009
Originally Posted by Andy2:
“My only complaint about the White Album remaster is that the CD's are too tight in the packing and won't slide out easily. I hate having to grab them and pull!”

i had the same problem when my White Album arrived,i've played it on my PS3 then i'll put it on my itunes then i'll put the cd away.

i got Abbey Road too,both cd's came with cut out's for the Rock band game.i'll probably put them on ebay.
aaronon
09-09-2009
Both CD's in my white album are also quite tight. . .and there also a slight dent on the inside sleeve. . .don't know how it got there, but someone has de-purified my great whiteness.
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