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Orange and T-Mobile UK to merge
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Martin Phillp
08-09-2009
Orange is the stronger brand, but I think the merged company will want a fresh start and rebrand to gain new customers who may have not gone for either an Orange or T-Mobile contract.
plymouthbloke1974
08-09-2009
I expect T-Mobile letters/bills etc to state at the bottom "An Orange Company". In much the same way as O2 state they are a Telefonica company at the bottom of thier literature.

Then in 18 months, the T-Mobile brand will vanish.

The Orange brand will NEVER leave the UK.
Appleseed
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by M. Tourette:
“I think you might find it is a fruit as well.
Personally I would rather the name Orange be used instead of Tmobile - which is just awkward in it's sound.


I just hope this can sway Apple to join in with Orange in the UK now so it's customers can get iPhones.”

Yeah, I just used one example of the word 'Orange' to get my point across. I didn't feel the need to patronise people here by explaining that an orange is also a fruit.
However, the naming a the new company will, for now, remain a mystery.
Ricardodaforce
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by chinchin:
“Remember this prediction. It will be Orange and the T-Mobile name will disappear!”

Check out post 3.
TheSoulBrother
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by Martin Phillp:
“Orange is the stronger brand, but I think the merged company will want a fresh start and rebrand to gain new customers who may have not gone for either an Orange or T-Mobile contract.”


You don't throw away all of that brand equity. A fresh start doesn't make much sense when you have 30m+ customers.
goomba
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
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The Orange brand will NEVER leave the UK.”

They have been very close in the past to rebranding to French Telecom. I filled in a survey at the time from them investigating the brand image of FT.
pinkfoot2
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by TheBigM:
“I guess you haven't heard the saying about apples and oranges? Along the lines of chalk and cheese?

I would have thought a three-way merger of Virgin Mobile, T-Mobile and 3 would be best.

.”

If Three comes anywhere near the deal I'm off.... Despise the service and operstion with a passion....
LostFool
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by Martin Phillp:
“Orange is the stronger brand, but I think the merged company will want a fresh start and rebrand to gain new customers who may have not gone for either an Orange or T-Mobile contract.”

Orange may be a stronger brand in the UK but T-Mobile is solid around the world. It all depends if the marketing wonks want to tie into a global brand or have something specific to the UK market.

How about bringing back One2One?
pinkfoot2
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by LostFool:
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How about bringing back One2One?”

AAAARRRRGGGHHHHHH Old Everton shirts would be current then.... scary, mind you it'd save the blue shyte some money on 2012's kit....chuckle
goomba
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by LostFool:
“Orange may be a stronger brand in the UK but T-Mobile is solid around the world. It all depends if the marketing wonks want to tie into a global brand or have something specific to the UK market.”

There are more Orange networks or Orange branded networks than T-Mobile ones around the world. With the ISP branded as Orange as well it would be the one to be kept I would have thought.
iRuss
08-09-2009
They'll merge in to a new brand - for definite.
plymouthbloke1974
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by iRuss:
“They'll merge in to a new brand - for definite.”

I'm telling you, they won't.
iRuss
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“I'm telling you, they won't.”

And I'm telling you they will.
Appleseed
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by iRuss:
“And I'm telling you they will.”

You don't know anything for sure, you're just guessing as to what will happen based upon (possibly) other mergers/deals.

So instead of all the 'yes they will, no they won't' crap, lets wait and see what occurs?
iRuss
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by Appleseed:
“You don't know anything for sure, you're just guessing as to what will happen based upon (possibly) other mergers/deals.”

Absolutely but when someone as equally unqualified as myself tells me I'm wrong, I'm not just going to sit back.
plymouthbloke1974
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by iRuss:
“Absolutely but when someone as equally unqualified as myself tells me I'm wrong, I'm not just going to sit back.”

Do you work for either of the companies concerned?

No. Didn't think so.

Think I am a little more qualified than you.
iRuss
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“Do you work for either of the companies concerned?

No. Didn't think so.

Think I am a little more qualified than you.”

Tmobile Customer Services based at Merthyr Tydfil since 2006, Your point is?
Appleseed
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by iRuss:
“Absolutely but when someone as equally unqualified as myself tells me I'm wrong, I'm not just going to sit back.”

Originally Posted by iRuss:
“They'll merge in to a new brand - for definite.”

Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“Do you work for either of the companies concerned?

No. Didn't think so.

Think I am a little more qualified than you.”

OK, I assume you work for one or other of them?
What do you think is going to happen and why?
You say that orange will NEVER leave. Why not? T-Mobile and Orange have business all over the world so why wouldn't a new name for the combined business in the UK be a goer?
I personally think it's be a great business move to merge and create a new, fresh name for the company.
Appleseed
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by iRuss:
“Tmobile Customer Services based at Merthyr Tydfil since 2006, Your point is?”

Really? Give me your direct number then, I never get through to anyone other than a foreign call centre.
iRuss
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by Appleseed:
“OK, I assume you work for one or other of them?
What do you think is going to happen and why?
You say that orange will NEVER leave. Why not? T-Mobile and Orange have business all over the world so why wouldn't a new name for the combined business in the UK be a goer?
I personally think it's be a great business move to merge and create a new, fresh name for the company.”

Incidentally the point I was making is he's just a frontline phone monkey like myself. Neither of us have any real idea how this will pan out, that sort of decision is make by people way over our heads. The difference being is I'm not going to embarrass myself by telling people in the same boat as myself that "I'm right, you're wrong" just out of nowhere. I made that comment above just to show how pointless his stance was.

Originally Posted by Appleseed:
“Really? Give me your direct number then, I never get through to anyone other than a foreign call centre.”

We don't have direct numbers but call before 10am for your best shot as getting through to the UK.
spursgalea
08-09-2009
sorry if I have missed it in the thread but I worried about my magic numbers. has anyone got any thoughts weather after the merger thay will keep magic numbers
Trangia
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce:
“I wonder how it will be branded. Orange I would guess.”

T-ango

or maybe

Orabile
plymouthbloke1974
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by iRuss:
“Incidentally the point I was making is he's just a frontline phone monkey like myself. Neither of us have any real idea how this will pan out, that sort of decision is make by people way over our heads. The difference being is I'm not going to embarrass myself by telling people in the same boat as myself that "I'm right, you're wrong" just out of nowhere. I made that comment above just to show how pointless his stance was.”

OK, phone monkey I am (), however being in the business since 1995 means that have gotten to know a lot of people in a lot of places, especially senior management, so please don't question my judgement.

I would quite happily go down Ladbrokes right now and stick £5,000 on Orange retaining the name.
iRuss
08-09-2009
You're not anywhere near the level of person who makes the decisions. You're welcome to your opinion (the world would be crap if that were not the case) but you're no closer to having an educated guess than me or any other Tmobile or Orange frontline staff.
Appleseed
08-09-2009
Originally Posted by spursgalea:
“sorry if I have missed it in the thread but I worried about my magic numbers. has anyone got any thoughts weather after the merger thay will keep magic numbers”

I would guess that whatever 'deal' you have now would carry on (for a while at least)
I'd also guess that when the merger is complete, some new 'deals' will be presented in the hope that people will move over to them.
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