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NewWorldMan
10-09-2009
I know it's nothing new but thought I'd just remark how convenient this is. It took me a while to remember that I'd got it though!
GaseousClay
10-09-2009
Another handy use for it is to set a 'watch' reservation so the box turns on and fills the buffer and as long as you don't overstep the 2 hour limit you can catch up later.. the advantage of this is that its like recording something but you don't have to worry about deleting it if some thing else starts to record in the meantime.
boyzie
10-09-2009
Yes it's handy,but it would be a lot better to be able to record the buffer.
Cherb
10-09-2009
Personally I don't really use it and I'd like the option of being able to turn it off

Will hopefully prolong the life of the disk drive as there will be much less activity.
Pugwash69
11-09-2009
Don't worry about disk drive life - if it's going to die, it'll die. Power cycles probably decrease it's stability
grahamlthompson
11-09-2009
Originally Posted by Cherb:
“Personally I don't really use it and I'd like the option of being able to turn it off

Will hopefully prolong the life of the disk drive as there will be much less activity.”

Spinning the drive up and down is more likely to affect the disc life than continously using it. In any case the disc is used to buffer the epg and store the reservation schedule so it's needed anyway.
PhilWis
11-09-2009
Originally Posted by GaseousClay:
“Another handy use for it is to set a 'watch' reservation so the box turns on and fills the buffer and as long as you don't overstep the 2 hour limit you can catch up later.. the advantage of this is that its like recording something but you don't have to worry about deleting it if some thing else starts to record in the meantime.”

Can you explain this again please? I'm not sure whether I'm missing something.
Thanks
grahamlthompson
11-09-2009
Originally Posted by GaseousClay:
“Another handy use for it is to set a 'watch' reservation so the box turns on and fills the buffer and as long as you don't overstep the 2 hour limit you can catch up later.. the advantage of this is that its like recording something but you don't have to worry about deleting it if some thing else starts to record in the meantime.”

The big snag is that if the programme finishes before you catch up it flushes the buffer leaving you high and dry. (It's not like the 9200 which has a continously rolling buffer. Chasing playback of a recording is much safer.
GaseousClay
11-09-2009
Originally Posted by PhilWis:
“Can you explain this again please? I'm not sure whether I'm missing something.
Thanks”

yes, say for example you don't get home from work until 7 o'clock at night and you like to watch the BBC 6 o'clock news if you set a 'watch' reservation and not a 'record' reservation the box will switch itself on and buffer the programme to disk. you get home turn the tele on and select the appropriate out put and when you press the left cursor on the remote it will whizz back through the buffered broadcast, as long as you don't change channels.
GaseousClay
11-09-2009
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“The big snag is that if the programme finishes before you catch up it flushes the buffer leaving you high and dry. (It's not like the 9200 which has a continously rolling buffer. Chasing playback of a recording is much safer.”

Ahh I didn't realise that I thought it only flushed the buffer if you had a recording following on the same channel did that. would setting a 'watch' reservation for the following programmes get round that
grahamlthompson
11-09-2009
Originally Posted by GaseousClay:
“Ahh I didn't realise that I thought it only flushed the buffer if you had a recording following on the same channel did that. would setting a 'watch' reservation for the following programmes get round that”

Not sure clearly needs a test but suspect it will still clear the buffer. When I have no recordings on the go will try the various combinations. The former easy to check pause something you are tuned to for about 15 min 20 min from the end and then fast forward till near the 15 min and see if you get the whole programme.
swedish cook
11-09-2009
Originally Posted by GaseousClay:
“yes, say for example you don't get home from work until 7 o'clock at night and you like to watch the BBC 6 o'clock news if you set a 'watch' reservation and not a 'record' reservation the box will switch itself on and buffer the programme to disk. you get home turn the tele on and select the appropriate out put and when you press the left cursor on the remote it will whizz back through the buffered broadcast, as long as you don't change channels.”

Aaah takes me back to when I had a Topfield, excellent piece of kit so long as you replaced* the EPG with one written by some helpful users - mind you picture was pretty rubbish compared to HDR IMHO. Anyways with the right EPG loaded you could tell it to record a program but only keep 1 copy of it, genious, also you could give the recording a priority and if there was a recording conflict it just ditched the low priority one - again genious.

*I don't want to insult placement students but I wouldn't be suprised thats who did the default EPG - if anyone in Korea is out there perhaps they might confirm. At least the HDR (IMHO) looks like it was done by someone who knew what they were doing.

Pity the manufacturers don't seem to learn from the free software thats out there, like the replacement EPGs for the Topfield and I know the linux PVR system Myth TV has very similar functions.
grahamlthompson
12-09-2009
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Not sure clearly needs a test but suspect it will still clear the buffer. When I have no recordings on the go will try the various combinations. The former easy to check pause something you are tuned to for about 15 min 20 min from the end and then fast forward till near the 15 min and see if you get the whole programme.”

Good news and bad

Without follow up recording activity the live buffer is continous so you don't lose the end

If a recording is due on any channel it takes tuner 1 (as far as I can tell) so you lose the buffer at the recording start time (may be earlier another test required)
grahamlthompson
12-09-2009
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Good news and bad

Without follow up recording activity the live buffer is continous so you don't lose the end

If a recording is due on any channel it takes tuner 1 (as far as I can tell) so you lose the buffer at the recording start time (may be earlier another test required)”

GC you were right, the hdr's bright enough to switch tuners, so a recording starting on the same channel or 2 on different channels presumably will stop recording to the buffer. (Not sure if buffer recording will continue though if the watched channel continues to be available due to the transponders being currently recorded
savvy
12-09-2009
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Good news and bad

Without follow up recording activity the live buffer is continous so you don't lose the end

If a recording is due on any channel it takes tuner 1 (as far as I can tell) so you lose the buffer at the recording start time (may be earlier another test required)”

Graham,

I think the scenario you were thinking of when it dumps you to Live at the end of the prog is when you are timeshifting a programme you are also recording. This does flush the buffer and dump you to Live when the recording ends, even if there is no follow on recording starting. If you are purely timeshifting it, and not recording it at the same time, as you have found it will continue timeshifting with the buffer intact after the programme finishes in Live.

Rgds.


Les..
grahamlthompson
12-09-2009
Originally Posted by savvy:
“Graham,

I think the scenario you were thinking of when it dumps you to Live at the end of the prog is when you are timeshifting a programme you are also recording. This does flush the buffer and dump you to Live when the recording ends, even if there is no follow on recording starting. If you are purely timeshifting it, and not recording it at the same time, as you have found it will continue timeshifting with the buffer intact after the programme finishes in Live.

Rgds.


Les..”

Thanks Les.
GaseousClay
12-09-2009
Just to ammend my original post on this topic I stated that when you set a 'watch' reservation that it turns the box on, It does but I failed to mention that it will also turn the box back off at the end of the programme so for a scenario like that example I gave in post #9 you would need to edit the reservation so that the box remains switched on i.e. covering 2 hours that the buffer will hold.
PhilWis
14-09-2009
Originally Posted by GaseousClay:
“yes, say for example you don't get home from work until 7 o'clock at night and you like to watch the BBC 6 o'clock news if you set a 'watch' reservation and not a 'record' reservation the box will switch itself on and buffer the programme to disk. you get home turn the tele on and select the appropriate out put and when you press the left cursor on the remote it will whizz back through the buffered broadcast, as long as you don't change channels.”

Thanks - I've learnt something - I didn't realise you could do that!
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