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The FAIR CITY Thread
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Willow33
20-05-2013
Luke is going to trip himself up asking all the questions about Tommy.


Paddy Bishop - GET RID OF HIM!!!!! That man is one nasty piece of work.
Pippa2012
20-05-2013
Zak really does need to be recast as he is a terrible actor. I like the Tommy storyline but am i alone in rooting for Tommy, i hope he gets the happy ever after in a sense, id love for him to meet someone and make Judy really jealous and she realises what a huge mistake she has made, Judy and Luke dont work, the on screen chemistry with Judy and Tommy was/is excellent and Jeff Minogue who plays Tommy is one of the more solid actors in Fair City.

Love the Yvonne and Carol bitching, there are been some corker one off lines that have been brilliant and both are excellent characters. Farrell though as we all know is a slippy character so im sure his agenda with Carol will not be totally straightforward.

Callum i dont mind, he is in settling in period to establish him, but im really going of Paul, i used to like him but he has changed over the last year into a i dont know what, i hate the way he treated the Molloys it just isnt his true nature.

Paddy Bishop and that runt Charlotte do my head in, i hope both are axed but i sense we will get a pregnancy storyline with Charlotte or at the least she will pretend to be pregnant.
los.kav
20-05-2013
Originally Posted by SparkleBee:
“Ama (sp) I think? She is the one who is friends with Damien and is illegal at the moment as she does not have her papers and passport. There must be a lot more to her story which, I am sure, we will learn.”

I was sure, when she came into it, that she was going to be a love interest for Laura instead of Damien.
SparkleBee
20-05-2013
Originally Posted by Pippa2012:
“Zak really does need to be recast as he is a terrible actor. I like the Tommy storyline but am i alone in rooting for Tommy, i hope he gets the happy ever after in a sense, id love for him to meet someone and make Judy really jealous and she realises what a huge mistake she has made, Judy and Luke dont work, the on screen chemistry with Judy and Tommy was/is excellent and Jeff Minogue who plays Tommy is one of the more solid actors in Fair City.

Love the Yvonne and Carol bitching, there are been some corker one off lines that have been brilliant and both are excellent characters. Farrell though as we all know is a slippy character so im sure his agenda with Carol will not be totally straightforward.

Callum i dont mind, he is in settling in period to establish him, but im really going of Paul, i used to like him but he has changed over the last year into a i dont know what, i hate the way he treated the Molloys it just isnt his true nature.

Paddy Bishop and that runt Charlotte do my head in, i hope both are axed but i sense we will get a pregnancy storyline with Charlotte or at the least she will pretend to be pregnant.”

Ditto on Zak and Charlotte...said this before myself.

I don't know why Paul hates Wayne so much. Is it something to do with the garage? The money he turned over from Eddie seems to have given him a mega-ego boost and he thinks an awful lot of himself.

I just don't like people with attitudes like Callum. But, I find him a very dark character and could be very interesting. On the up side with Paul he is not putting up with Callum's back talk and telling him to straighten up. Hopefully, that will work.

Paddy seems like a true "baddie" and having him playing the criminal trying to get his life back with flashes of the real him showing through is intriguing and if Charlotte does get pregnant there will be hell to pay.
los.kav
21-05-2013
Oh, Zack needs to be recast ASAP, I'm not sure on Charlotte though: the actress is pretty bad, but she plays "horrible little rhymes-with-runt-but-starts-with-C very well. I'd be happy to see her stay on at least, as long as she continues playing a rhymes-with-runt.

I don't get the Paul hates Wayne thing. Wayne is fairly hateable in an affable sort of way: you'd go for a pint with him, but two pints is stretching it. He seems, to me, to be the kind of guy that just wants a decent job and a wife with a couple of kids in the future. I sort of hope he gets that, because it would develop him as a character. On the other hand, he's pretty funny with the right people as he is.

I don't like the actor, but Callum is shaping up well (instant bonding with daddy aside). I like the idea of it being the Bishops vs the Brennans. When was the last time Fair City did a long-time rivalry kind of thing? Paddy Bishop, again, not a great actor, but a great concept for a character.

I guess my only real gripe with what's going on is the writers. They always seem to pull back at the last minute when it comes to dramatic stories, but they get the comedy/community feel that's lacking in other soaps spot on.
SparkleBee
21-05-2013
Wayne has abitions he can never attain He is not as awesome as he thinks he is...I find it hilarious when he does the "I am so awesome" thing...he does that a lot but he's not.

Not sure Tommy would have a case against Luke if he got his memory back. Sort of a "he said-he said" thing. No visible or electronic proof. I would think people would say Tommy is blaming Luke because of hatred not because he really caused it. one time where he gets a way with it.
SparkleBee
22-05-2013
That was incredibly manipulating of Luke to insinuate that Neasa had lost the CCTV footage.Cold and calculating.

Now, more then ever, I think Charlotte is going to end up pregnant. I don't get why Paul hates Wayne so much? That was heartless.

Zak, go to Kilkenny, and don't ever come back. If you do please let it be in a different body.

Felt for Dermot and understand why he feels that way. I think Jo is just so happy and relieved to have her life back that she wants to shout it to the world. Not sure why Dermot wants to keep it under wraps.
Eurostar
22-05-2013
Originally Posted by SparkleBee:
“That was incredibly manipulating of Luke to insinuate that Neasa had lost the CCTV footage.Cold and calculating.

Now, more then ever, I think Charlotte is going to end up pregnant. I don't get why Paul hates Wayne so much? That was heartless.

Zak, go to Kilkenny, and don't ever come back. If you do please let it be in a different body.

Felt for Dermot and understand why he feels that way. I think Jo is just so happy and relieved to have her life back that she wants to shout it to the world. Not sure why Dermot wants to keep it under wraps.”

They seem to be turning Paul into a JR Ewing hateful character ie, an egomaniac and becoming increasingly bitter and twisted as time goes on.

I'm still baffled by the Paul - Callum relationship. Has anyone who was the product of a one night stand ever gone searching for their 'father', instantly bonded with him and practically moved in with him just because he happened to be their biological father (and completely ignoring the fact that the 'father' never had or wanted to have a relationship of any description with their mother)?

Agree about Zak. He must be the most wooden and uncharismatic person on the show.

I'm quite enjoying Charlotte though. She seems to be an airhead and completely oblivious to the fact that Callum doesn't even feel attracted to her, never mind not wanting to date her.
los.kav
23-05-2013
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“They seem to be turning Paul into a JR Ewing hateful character ie, an egomaniac and becoming increasingly bitter and twisted as time goes on.
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I was just saying that today. It would be like if they turned Max from EastEnders into Phil Mitchell: it doesn't work. Paul was good as a family man with good intentions and a roving eye: the money has really changed him. And his rivalry with Wayne is strange too. Paul might not have been a high-flyer, but he had achieved success in several businesses. Even on a good day ambitious-but-feckless Wayne wouldn't be a business threat to Paul.
Eurostar
23-05-2013
Originally Posted by los.kav:
“I was just saying that today. It would be like if they turned Max from EastEnders into Phil Mitchell: it doesn't work. Paul was good as a family man with good intentions and a roving eye: the money has really changed him. And his rivalry with Wayne is strange too. Paul might not have been a high-flyer, but he had achieved success in several businesses. Even on a good day ambitious-but-feckless Wayne wouldn't be a business threat to Paul.”

They definitely seem to be turning Paul into a soap villain of sorts. He's becoming increasingly nasty and aggressive and rude. I'm not sure if I follow the logic as you would think becoming a millionaire would mellow him rather than make him more unpleasant - I suppose they're trying to insinuate that the money has corrupted him and brought out the egomaniac in him.
Willow33
23-05-2013
Paul is a creep these days! Not too pleasant in RL either though. He deliberately jeopardised Wayne's new job, now that is pure nasty


I hate all that hard man stuff with Paddy Bishop, even the sons have more sense than him.
Eurostar
23-05-2013
Originally Posted by Willow33:
“Paul is a creep these days! Not too pleasant in RL either though. He deliberately jeopardised Wayne's new job, now that is pure nasty


I hate all that hard man stuff with Paddy Bishop, even the sons have more sense than him.”

It's unclear why Paul holds such a grudge against Wayne. Sure, the two of them can't stand each other but he knows that Wayne and his mother lost all their money to Eddie and he bought the shares to the garage at a knockdown price. He seems to be just petty and bitter and vindictive by continuing to taunt Wayne,
SparkleBee
23-05-2013
I thought tonight was a great episode.

Why does it seem that coffee cups never have anything it them?

Loved Esther's reaction to Dermot and Jo. She seemed, dare I say, happy! No snarky remarks. "I'd pick you up but my jacket's tight" Love Dermot and a happy ending...finally. Such a difference to when it looked like Tommy and Judith would be the ones surviving as a couple.

Would love to know more about the birthday card. Callum really seemed to soften when Niamh brought it up.

Wow, Vivienne has some cheek ordering Callum out of his own house! However, I totally understand her anger. Glad she confronted Paddy about what he did but was surprised at how "paternal" he came across regarding how Charlotte was feeling. I will be very surprised if Charlotte doesn't end up pregnant.
Eurostar
23-05-2013
Originally Posted by SparkleBee:
“I thought tonight was a great episode.

Why does it seem that coffee cups never have anything it them?

Loved Esther's reaction to Dermot and Jo. She seemed, dare I say, happy! No snarky remarks. "I'd pick you up but my jacket's tight" Love Dermot and a happy ending...finally. Such a difference to when it looked like Tommy and Judith would be the ones surviving as a couple.

Would love to know more about the birthday card. Callum really seemed to soften when Niamh brought it up.

Wow, Vivienne has some cheek ordering Callum out of his own house! However, I totally understand her anger. Glad she confronted Paddy about what he did but was surprised at how "paternal" he came across regarding how Charlotte was feeling. I will be very surprised if Charlotte doesn't end up pregnant.”

Is there any explanation as to why Callum has seemingly left his entire earlier life behind him? Where is his mother and all his friends in whatever area he was living in? And why has he left that life behind and moved to Carrigstown? I remember him talking about juvenile detention though.

I do wonder too if Niamh would be comfortable with someone who may be an unreformed criminal and who is a virtual stranger moving into her house. How does she know whether Callum is a drug taker or dealer for example? She has a young and impressionable teenage daughter after all
SparkleBee
23-05-2013
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Is there any explanation as to why Callum has seemingly left his entire earlier life behind him? Where is his mother and all his friends in whatever area he was living in? And why has he left that life behind and moved to Carrigstown? I remember him talking about juvenile detention though.

I do wonder too if Niamh would be comfortable with someone who may be an unreformed criminal and who is a virtual stranger moving into her house. How does she know whether Callum is a drug taker or dealer for example? She has a young and impressionable teenage daughter after all”

...and a toddler too.

Perhaps Callum's backstory will start coming out explaining many of his questions. Niamh really softened when she saw the card so would like to know what was in it.
Eurostar
24-05-2013
Originally Posted by SparkleBee:
“...and a toddler too.

Perhaps Callum's backstory will start coming out explaining many of his questions. Niamh really softened when she saw the card so would like to know what was in it.”

She also knows that Paddy Bishop and his sons have been threatening Callum with violence....you'd wonder if she would really be comfortable with having someone like that under her roof.

Maybe the plan is to rehabilitate Callum and we find out he really has a heart of gold, but I'm finding his rapid integration into Paul's family as his 'son' quite bizarre, especially as he was the product of a one night stand with a woman he never laid eyes on again. Callum showing up as his troubled nephew or something would have made a lot more sense.
Willow33
24-05-2013
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“She also knows that Paddy Bishop and his sons have been threatening Callum with violence....you'd wonder if she would really be comfortable with having someone like that under her roof.

Maybe the plan is to rehabilitate Callum and we find out he really has a heart of gold, but I'm finding his rapid integration into Paul's family as his 'son' quite bizarre, especially as he was the product of a one night stand with a woman he never laid eyes on again. Callum showing up as his troubled nephew or something would have made a lot more sense.”



I find it a bit OTT that Niamh had no time for Callum, now that he is involved with the Bishop's she says move in!!!
los.kav
24-05-2013
I'm wondering, if they're bringing Paul down the villain route since he's got the money, how is Callum going to fit in? He can hardly berate his own son for being antisocial and disruptive when he's doing similar things to relatively harmless neighbours like Delores and Wayne and showing no remorse for it.

Yesterday's ep was great, especially the Jo/Dermot scenes. Loved the scene in the Hungry Pig Dermot and Jo were always brilliant comedy actors (I know they can do the emotional stuff too, but I love them when they're bouncing off each other and being funny). I also like how, this time around, it's not Jo volunteering at a shop but having a paying job. The financial side isn't all being left to Dermot this time around, making the relationship a little more even-sided. Plus Ben's in school all day. That's a nice little family unit and I hope it stays like that.

Where's Ama and Damien? I really like Ama's story, and I really like that Bob's on her side. Bob's becoming a really great character these days, now they've stopped all the Louis-revenge schemes and moved him on. He works great with Carol, but it's also nice to see him with other members of the community and it's great that the writers have used his homeless stint to make him more socially aware and compassionate. Secretly, out of FC and EastEnders (Ian Beale), I think FC and Bob did the businessman-turned homeless-fighting to get back on his feet story much better, especially in terms of character development.
Willow33
24-05-2013
I still see Bob as "Trevor Jordache"!!!
Eurostar
24-05-2013
Originally Posted by los.kav:
“I'm wondering, if they're bringing Paul down the villain route since he's got the money, how is Callum going to fit in? He can hardly berate his own son for being antisocial and disruptive when he's doing similar things to relatively harmless neighbours like Delores and Wayne and showing no remorse for it.

Yesterday's ep was great, especially the Jo/Dermot scenes. Loved the scene in the Hungry Pig Dermot and Jo were always brilliant comedy actors (I know they can do the emotional stuff too, but I love them when they're bouncing off each other and being funny). I also like how, this time around, it's not Jo volunteering at a shop but having a paying job. The financial side isn't all being left to Dermot this time around, making the relationship a little more even-sided. Plus Ben's in school all day. That's a nice little family unit and I hope it stays like that.

Where's Ama and Damien? I really like Ama's story, and I really like that Bob's on her side. Bob's becoming a really great character these days, now they've stopped all the Louis-revenge schemes and moved him on. He works great with Carol, but it's also nice to see him with other members of the community and it's great that the writers have used his homeless stint to make him more socially aware and compassionate. Secretly, out of FC and EastEnders (Ian Beale), I think FC and Bob did the businessman-turned homeless-fighting to get back on his feet story much better, especially in terms of character development.”

I'm not entirely sure where they're going with Paul except they must have some big storylines planned for him as he becomes increasingly bitter and twisted.

The "teen tearaway" like Callum who shows up out of nowhere and causes havoc is a staple of soap operas, though it's far fetched that the product of a one night stand would be accepted so rapidly and move in with the family of his biological 'father', particularly a person who appears to be disruptive and trouble and the family he's entering are law abiding and settled.

I'm glad Dermot seems to have calmed down. His reaction to Jo's affair was extremely bitter and irrational and completely over the top, treating her like dirt for many months afterwards.

Bob is a fine actor and probably a lot more believable than someone like Ian Beale.
SparkleBee
27-05-2013
Wayne was actually a reasonable person tonight. Glad we are back to Ama's story. I think it will be interesting.

Nice to have a break from the Dillon saga.

I thought Leo owned Acorn cabs. He's just owns the dispatching company?
los.kav
27-05-2013
To be fair, Eurostar, Dermot had to have that reaction: nothing else would split Jo and Dermot up and she was going out of it for too long. She worked right the way up to her giving birth, practically, so she was always going to be gone for longer than a few months maternity leave.

I like Ama's story, and it's nice that that group (Laura, Damian, Wayne) aren't as shallow as the people their age in other soaps. Can't wait to see how this plays out.
Eurostar
27-05-2013
Originally Posted by los.kav:
“To be fair, Eurostar, Dermot had to have that reaction: nothing else would split Jo and Dermot up and she was going out of it for too long. She worked right the way up to her giving birth, practically, so she was always going to be gone for longer than a few months maternity leave.

I like Ama's story, and it's nice that that group (Laura, Damian, Wayne) aren't as shallow as the people their age in other soaps. Can't wait to see how this plays out.”

Certainly, but Dermot seemed extremely bitter and vindictive about it. He was forever hurling abuse down the phone to Jo in Cork, as if she was a serial killer rather someone who had cheated on him....I always thought his reaction was a bit over the top.

I'm still baffled as to how or why Callum has moved in with Paul's family. He appears to be trouble and very disruptive and there is always a bad atmosphere when he is around.....it seems odd that Paul would allow a settled family unit be disrupted by a tearaway teen.
los.kav
27-05-2013
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Certainly, but Dermot seemed extremely bitter and vindictive about it. He was forever hurling abuse down the phone to Jo in Cork, as if she was a serial killer rather someone who had cheated on him....I always thought his reaction was a bit over the top.

I'm still baffled as to how or why Callum has moved in with Paul's family. He appears to be trouble and very disruptive and there is always a bad atmosphere when he is around.....it seems odd that Paul would allow a settled family unit be disrupted by a tearaway teen.”

They did go a bit too far with Dermot, considering they were putting him back with Jo early enough this year. It would have been more realistic if he started out being civil to her over the phone and a friendship had grown up, he realised that space was what they needed and he still loved her, etc., and then they got together after all that with her father's death.

Callum is practically an adult now, so him going into the family fold makes even less sense. I mean, it would be different if he was still in school and starting to get into trouble because he was lacking a strong male role model, but even then it's moving too damn quick.
Eurostar
27-05-2013
Originally Posted by los.kav:
“They did go a bit too far with Dermot, considering they were putting him back with Jo early enough this year. It would have been more realistic if he started out being civil to her over the phone and a friendship had grown up, he realised that space was what they needed and he still loved her, etc., and then they got together after all that with her father's death.

Callum is practically an adult now, so him going into the family fold makes even less sense. I mean, it would be different if he was still in school and starting to get into trouble because he was lacking a strong male role model, but even then it's moving too damn quick.”

Yes, Dermot and Jo's reconciliation was rather dramatic seeing as he had been extremely hostile towards her for the previous 6-9 months. I think we were supposed to have sympathy for him as the betrayed husband whose heart was broken, but he came across to me as quite nasty and vindictive during this period.

I can't really figure out the Callum - Paul relationship at all. Certainly there is a biological connection between the two, but that's about it. They are complete strangers.....it's not the same thing as a birth mother being reunited with her child in my book. Paul merely inseminated a woman during a one night stand, and it seems bizarre that the product of this has moved in with him (and is causing havoc in the process).
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