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Old 18-09-2009, 12:30
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care about what singles are released from an album? can't you just enjoy the album in its own context.
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Old 18-09-2009, 12:49
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People who are not into a band/artist will judge them based on the songs they hear, which are the singles. If a band is really important to you, then it can annoy you when people judge your favourite band in this way.

eg: People think Blackout Crew are a comedy band due to Rumper Pumper and Put A Donk On It, while a lot of their album tracks show their serious side, and do it very well.
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Old 18-09-2009, 12:51
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People who are not into a band/artist will judge them based on the songs they hear, which are the singles. If a band is really important to you, then it can annoy you when people judge your favourite band in this way.

eg: People think Blackout Crew are a comedy band due to Rumper Pumper and Put A Donk On It, while a lot of their album tracks show their serious side, and do it very well.

really?
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Old 18-09-2009, 13:17
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i don't think the people who have bought the albums are concerned what singles are released for their own sake, i think many of those people hope the strongest singles get released to give them a chance of doing well in the charts, so that more people will be likely to pay more attention to the artist in question and will perhaps want to buy the album too. because if someone as an individual owns an album that they really like and think deserves to sell well, i suppose you might want more people to take notice of it, and a strong single is one of the best ways of doing that, although it's all about opinion in terms of which are the better singles anyway.

i'm just assuming really. i know it's not all about sales all the time, but surely there's no harm in releasing the strongest singles so that more people might be persuaded to buy the album.
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Old 18-09-2009, 13:37
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^^^

That's a very ood point but so many of the albums I'm talking about have come from already established acts. People on here are always complaining about what singles should have or shouldn't have been released from Lady GaGa, La Roux or Lily Allens album, but at this point its not really gonna majorly affect their sales.
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Old 18-09-2009, 14:23
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That's a very ood point but so many of the albums I'm talking about have come from already established acts. People on here are always complaining about what singles should have or shouldn't have been released from Lady GaGa, La Roux or Lily Allens album, but at this point its not really gonna majorly affect their sales.
Yeah, it will. None of those artists have enjoyed success for long enough for them to sit on their laurels and think it's going to last. A few flops in the single charts, and they'll find it very difficult to regain popularity.
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Old 18-09-2009, 14:46
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Yeah, it will. None of those artists have enjoyed success for long enough for them to sit on their laurels and think it's going to last. A few flops in the single charts, and they'll find it very difficult to regain popularity.
No it won't La Roux, Lady GaGa etc have milked their albums for all their worth. They've had commercial succses, won awards etc, the songs they release now are hardly gonna have an effect. The work is effectively done. The real test will be their follow up albums and the first single released from them. maybe that's what you meant, I'm talking about the current albums that they had now
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Old 18-09-2009, 14:52
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People who are not into a band/artist will judge them based on the songs they hear, which are the singles. If a band is really important to you, then it can annoy you when people judge your favourite band in this way.

eg: People think Blackout Crew are a comedy band due to Rumper Pumper and Put A Donk On It, while a lot of their album tracks show their serious side, and do it very well.
Bravo! That's the funniest thing i've heard all day.
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Old 18-09-2009, 14:59
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I don't get annoyed i think better singles will sell more copies of the album, I just get annoyed because better tracks should not just left sitting on the album doing nothing.
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Old 18-09-2009, 15:00
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That's a very ood point but so many of the albums I'm talking about have come from already established acts. People on here are always complaining about what singles should have or shouldn't have been released from Lady GaGa, La Roux or Lily Allens album, but at this point its not really gonna majorly affect their sales.
well i suppose, but it can always help. Lady Gaga is a good example, her album The Fame was slipping out of the top 20 until Paparazzi was fully released and made #4 in the singles chart, and after that, the album shot back in to the top 5 and spent about 6 more weeks in the top 10.

and not only that, i believe Paparazzi was a smart choice of single because it showed a different side to Gaga, because it's a slower, less production-heavy song, and shows off her voice more. many of her fans thought LoveGame should of been released as the 3rd single, but it's very similar to the massive no.1 singles Just Dance & Poker Face, and while it might of echoed their success at that time, i guess cynics would of said then they were the only sort of songs she was capable of pulling off, so i believe it was a smart move to release a slower song to prove them wrong, and to show that her album isn't just full of Poker Face clones. and Paparazzi is in the top 10 best sellling songs of the year so it definitely worked.

i think that's the other factor - as well as sales - that can be influenced by choice of singles releases.
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Old 18-09-2009, 15:01
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I don't care. Most of the bands I like either aren't around any more or don't release singles anyway.
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Old 18-09-2009, 15:27
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I just get annoyed because better tracks should not just left sitting on the album doing nothing.
are you saying that your own personal enjoyment of a song can be marred by it not being relesed as a single? Coz that would be a bit stupid
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Old 18-09-2009, 15:27
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It helps you to decide whether to buy an album or not. personally I like to hazard a guess as to which songs are going to be released from an album that I already have
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Old 18-09-2009, 15:49
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are you saying that your own personal enjoyment of a song can be marred by it not being relesed as a single? Coz that would be a bit stupid
No that is absolutely not what i am saying and to be honest i've not idea how you came to that conclusion
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Old 18-09-2009, 15:58
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No that is absolutely not what i am saying and to be honest i've not idea how you came to that conclusion
Its just that you used the phrase "sitting on an album doing nothing" as if it's a worthless song because its not been released as a single.
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Old 18-09-2009, 16:00
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It helps you to decide whether to buy an album or not. personally I like to hazard a guess as to which songs are going to be released from an album that I already have
yea suppose, but it defo goes both ways. I know I've had instances where I've loved the singles but not the album and vice versa.
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Old 18-09-2009, 16:01
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It helps you to decide whether to buy an album or not. personally I like to hazard a guess as to which songs are going to be released from an album that I already have
Yeah, it's fun to do that! Also, there is an implicit social side to music - certain songs make me think of certain people in my life who also share a love for those songs - and it puts a smile on my face. Much more likely to happen if songs from the album have been released as singles!

I also agree that in buying the album you want the artist to do well, so would care about the diversity/appropriateness of the tracks that are released.
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Old 18-09-2009, 16:07
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are you saying that your own personal enjoyment of a song can be marred by it not being relesed as a single? Coz that would be a bit stupid
Do you understand the concept of personal taste? and realising people might not like your preferences and vica versa.

You've asked a question, people have answered with their personal preferences and havent insulted you or been nasty, so why are you getting personal and calling them 'stupid'?.
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Old 18-09-2009, 16:16
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Do you understand the concept of personal taste? and realising people might not like your preferences and vica versa.

You've asked a question, people have answered with their personal preferences and havent insulted you or been nasty, so why are you getting personal and calling them 'stupid'?.
I wasn't generalizing the opinion of everyone who replied to this thread... if you actually read what was written by one individual person- "It annoys me when songs are sitting on an album doing nothing" I replied to that which was seperate from the general discussion. It may have come across a bit patronising.. fair enough but I wasn't attacking the whole board. I actually agree with some of the points being raised that conflict my original argument.
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Old 18-09-2009, 19:13
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Biko, you are the only person on here who seems to have a good taste in music...largely because you like Bloc Party!

It does annoy me how people will not buy an album, I can understand it if it is a dance/r+b album due to the amount of filler but people who buy just the single on iTunes instead of the album for guitar band's album's annoys the hell out of me.
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Old 19-09-2009, 01:22
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Its just that you used the phrase "sitting on an album doing nothing" as if it's a worthless song because its not been released as a single.
What he means is that if there's a brilliant song on an album then it should be released, not hidden away so not many people know about it. For example, imagine if Rihanna had never released 'Umbrella' or if Leona had never released 'Bleeding Love'. Maybe they wouldn't be known as much worldwide as they are now or there albums might not of sold as much as they did.
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Old 19-09-2009, 09:37
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Biko, you are the only person on here who seems to have a good taste in music...largely because you like Bloc Party!

It does annoy me how people will not buy an album, I can understand it if it is a dance/r+b album due to the amount of filler but people who buy just the single on iTunes instead of the album for guitar band's album's annoys the hell out of me.
I dunno, if the given artist has released a couple of singles, one of which you don't like and one of which you do, I personally would just buy the song I wanted - especially if the artist isn't normally my thing but I like the song as a one off.

Also I think the likes of Spotify are going to change things - now you can listen to an entire album before getting it - which I will do then just get the songs that I like, released or not
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Old 19-09-2009, 09:43
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What he means is that if there's a brilliant song on an album then it should be released, not hidden away so not many people know about it. For example, imagine if Rihanna had never released 'Umbrella' or if Leona had never released 'Bleeding Love'. Maybe they wouldn't be known as much worldwide as they are now or there albums might not of sold as much as they did.
imagine if the Beatles never realeased day in a life as a single, would it be one of the most covered songs of alltime, oh wait?
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Old 19-09-2009, 13:25
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imagine if the Beatles never realeased day in a life as a single, would it be one of the most covered songs of alltime, oh wait?
Good point
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Old 19-09-2009, 13:45
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care about what singles are released from an album? can't you just enjoy the album in its own context.
I can agree with you a bit as a lot of singles have their place in the album which fits in with the mood of the album. Also a lot of singles are remixed/edited for radio.
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