The jokes are totally rotten.
What was the one about Erin being an old banger meant to mean?
Well off the mark whatever it was.
What was the one about Erin being an old banger meant to mean?
Well off the mark whatever it was.
Bruce Forsyth
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Originally Posted by pierre_gustave:
“The jokes are totally rotten.
What was the one about Erin being an old banger meant to mean?
Well off the mark whatever it was.”
“The jokes are totally rotten.
What was the one about Erin being an old banger meant to mean?
Well off the mark whatever it was.”
Yes, I found that rather uncomfortable whether it was a joke or not!
Much of the audience is probably older than Brucie and a lot more watched him in the Generation Game in the same slots in the seventies. He is a sign of comforting continuity and a big part of the reason for the show's success . He creates the mood, humour defuses the seriousness and he smooths over any nastiness. You might find better technical presenters but they would be too young and unknown and none are that popular with an older audience - as shown by the complaints about Tess or Fearne or Holly. Graham Norton can't do everything and is less funny for more people . It doesn't need the skills of a breakfast TV presenter to keep things going and Brucie has a helper anyway. You could have a SCD character but none of the winners could do it and none of the dancers has any discernable qualities as a comic. Ironically Alesha is about the only winner available who could have a go and look what people are complaining about with her. Brucie is there till he has to go and the show may die with him.
Its a bit strange that some people are complaining about Brucie being too old and about Arlene being replaced for being too old. In the can't afford to retire future facing most people, Brucie is very much an example of what people will have to get used to.
Its a bit strange that some people are complaining about Brucie being too old and about Arlene being replaced for being too old. In the can't afford to retire future facing most people, Brucie is very much an example of what people will have to get used to.
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“Yes, I found that rather uncomfortable whether it was a joke or not!”
“Yes, I found that rather uncomfortable whether it was a joke or not!”
Erin didnt seem pleased with that one,, she patted Bruce on the back as if to say, "yes I know it was a joke" but I dont think she liked it. maybe he should be more careful with his remarks.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Much of the audience is probably older than Brucie and a lot more watched him in the Generation Game in the same slots in the seventies. He is a sign of comforting continuity and a big part of the reason for the show's success . He creates the mood, humour defuses the seriousness and he smooths over any nastiness. You might find better technical presenters but they would be too young and unknown and none are that popular with an older audience - as shown by the complaints about Tess or Fearne or Holly. Graham Norton can't do everything and is less funny for more people . It doesn't need the skills of a breakfast TV presenter to keep things going and Brucie has a helper anyway. You could have a SCD character but none of the winners could do it and none of the dancers has any discernable qualities as a comic. Ironically Alesha is about the only winner available who could have a go and look what people are complaining about with her. Brucie is there till he has to go and the show may die with him.
Its a bit strange that some people are complaining about Brucie being too old and about Arlene being replaced for being too old. In the can't afford to retire future facing most people, Brucie is very much an example of what people will have to get used to.”
“Much of the audience is probably older than Brucie and a lot more watched him in the Generation Game in the same slots in the seventies. He is a sign of comforting continuity and a big part of the reason for the show's success . He creates the mood, humour defuses the seriousness and he smooths over any nastiness. You might find better technical presenters but they would be too young and unknown and none are that popular with an older audience - as shown by the complaints about Tess or Fearne or Holly. Graham Norton can't do everything and is less funny for more people . It doesn't need the skills of a breakfast TV presenter to keep things going and Brucie has a helper anyway. You could have a SCD character but none of the winners could do it and none of the dancers has any discernable qualities as a comic. Ironically Alesha is about the only winner available who could have a go and look what people are complaining about with her. Brucie is there till he has to go and the show may die with him.
Its a bit strange that some people are complaining about Brucie being too old and about Arlene being replaced for being too old. In the can't afford to retire future facing most people, Brucie is very much an example of what people will have to get used to.”
I agree with the gist of that. Bruce IS Saturday night entertainment. He has a charm that is probably not obvious at all to those people who didn't stay in with the family on a Saturday night in the days of 3 channels and no 24 hour shopping.
He is a very talented man and I think the Bruce/Tess combination works well. Maybe Anton will take over, he not only does 'Hole in the Wall' as previously mentioned but also 'Step up to the Plate' with Lloyd Grossman (daytime TV) so yes he is probably being groomed but I think Bruce will jump when HE is ready, rather than be pushed.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Much of the audience is probably older than Brucie and a lot more watched him in the Generation Game in the same slots in the seventies. He is a sign of comforting continuity and a big part of the reason for the show's success . He creates the mood, humour defuses the seriousness and he smooths over any nastiness. You might find better technical presenters but they would be too young and unknown and none are that popular with an older audience - as shown by the complaints about Tess or Fearne or Holly. Graham Norton can't do everything and is less funny for more people . It doesn't need the skills of a breakfast TV presenter to keep things going and Brucie has a helper anyway. You could have a SCD character but none of the winners could do it and none of the dancers has any discernable qualities as a comic. Ironically Alesha is about the only winner available who could have a go and look what people are complaining about with her. Brucie is there till he has to go and the show may die with him.
Its a bit strange that some people are complaining about Brucie being too old and about Arlene being replaced for being too old. In the can't afford to retire future facing most people, Brucie is very much an example of what people will have to get used to.”
“Much of the audience is probably older than Brucie and a lot more watched him in the Generation Game in the same slots in the seventies. He is a sign of comforting continuity and a big part of the reason for the show's success . He creates the mood, humour defuses the seriousness and he smooths over any nastiness. You might find better technical presenters but they would be too young and unknown and none are that popular with an older audience - as shown by the complaints about Tess or Fearne or Holly. Graham Norton can't do everything and is less funny for more people . It doesn't need the skills of a breakfast TV presenter to keep things going and Brucie has a helper anyway. You could have a SCD character but none of the winners could do it and none of the dancers has any discernable qualities as a comic. Ironically Alesha is about the only winner available who could have a go and look what people are complaining about with her. Brucie is there till he has to go and the show may die with him.
Its a bit strange that some people are complaining about Brucie being too old and about Arlene being replaced for being too old. In the can't afford to retire future facing most people, Brucie is very much an example of what people will have to get used to.”
I don't agree with that.
It's not really about him being old. it's about the poor,badly-timed jokes.
Bruce isn't the show. He is more of an irritating sideshow now.
Originally Posted by janetcomelately:
“I agree with the gist of that. Bruce IS Saturday night entertainment. He has a charm that is probably not obvious at all to those people who didn't stay in with the family on a Saturday night in the days of 3 channels and no 24 hour shopping.
He is a very talented man and I think the Bruce/Tess combination works well. Maybe Anton will take over, he not only does 'Hole in the Wall' as previously mentioned but also 'Step up to the Plate' with Lloyd Grossman (daytime TV) so yes he is probably being groomed but I think Bruce will jump when HE is ready, rather than be pushed.”
“I agree with the gist of that. Bruce IS Saturday night entertainment. He has a charm that is probably not obvious at all to those people who didn't stay in with the family on a Saturday night in the days of 3 channels and no 24 hour shopping.
He is a very talented man and I think the Bruce/Tess combination works well. Maybe Anton will take over, he not only does 'Hole in the Wall' as previously mentioned but also 'Step up to the Plate' with Lloyd Grossman (daytime TV) so yes he is probably being groomed but I think Bruce will jump when HE is ready, rather than be pushed.”
He was a superb entertainer.
That's what makes his decline all the sadder to watch.
Originally Posted by pierre_gustave:
“He was a superb entertainer.
That's what makes his decline all the sadder to watch.”
“He was a superb entertainer.
That's what makes his decline all the sadder to watch.”
It does, I remember reading about Bob Monkhouse going to see Bob Hopes last show in the UK and he said the same, that Bob should have stopped long before when he was at his best and he found it so sad watching him without that old twinkle in his eyes. Bob had been a writer for Bob Hope many years ago and knew the man well.
I love Brucie, and can't imagine strictly without him. He is however clearly in decline
He got quite annoyed on Saturday when he said the audience 'was asleep' and then repeated the joke urging them to laugh louder!
Brucie is old skool entertainment. Sure, his efforts are a bit extreme sometimes (Reportedly he has told the celebs to laugh louder at his jokes), but he does these things to make a better show
It did make me chuckle at the end of Saturdays show, as the credits ran Brucie decided the applause wasn't loud enough and raised his hands to get the audience to cheer louder!
He then did THE POSE!
He got quite annoyed on Saturday when he said the audience 'was asleep' and then repeated the joke urging them to laugh louder!
Brucie is old skool entertainment. Sure, his efforts are a bit extreme sometimes (Reportedly he has told the celebs to laugh louder at his jokes), but he does these things to make a better show
It did make me chuckle at the end of Saturdays show, as the credits ran Brucie decided the applause wasn't loud enough and raised his hands to get the audience to cheer louder!
He then did THE POSE!
Originally Posted by Jamie00353:
“I love Brucie, and can't imagine strictly without him. He is however clearly in decline
He got quite annoyed on Saturday when he said the audience 'was asleep' and then repeated the joke urging them to laugh louder!
Brucie is old skool entertainment. Sure, his efforts are a bit extreme sometimes (Reportedly he has told the celebs to laugh louder at his jokes), but he does these things to make a better show
It did make me chuckle at the end of Saturdays show, as the credits ran Brucie decided the applause wasn't loud enough and raised his hands to get the audience to cheer louder!
He then did THE POSE!”
“I love Brucie, and can't imagine strictly without him. He is however clearly in decline
He got quite annoyed on Saturday when he said the audience 'was asleep' and then repeated the joke urging them to laugh louder!
Brucie is old skool entertainment. Sure, his efforts are a bit extreme sometimes (Reportedly he has told the celebs to laugh louder at his jokes), but he does these things to make a better show
It did make me chuckle at the end of Saturdays show, as the credits ran Brucie decided the applause wasn't loud enough and raised his hands to get the audience to cheer louder!
He then did THE POSE!”
He does have charm.There is little doubt about that.
It is just that he is now toe-curlingly embarrasing to watch in his decline.
This really should be his last series of SCD.
Her Majesty should then give him his knighthood at New Year.
Go out with some dignity.
Last year he was tired and cantankerous. This year he seems to have got his zest back and is good-humoured.
Brucie is an institution as far as tv entertainment goes. How many others of his generation can say they host a prime time TV show in their eighties. NONE I would say...... he has been marvellous over the years.
He should without doubt and without delay be knighted..... it would be the ultimate accolade for such a wonderful man.
I will say though, that I do feel he should retire after this series and go out on a peak, before he has to literally be put out to pasture. Its a great pity he was not ten years younger when Strictly began and then we could look forward to him hosting for years to come !!!.
He should without doubt and without delay be knighted..... it would be the ultimate accolade for such a wonderful man.
I will say though, that I do feel he should retire after this series and go out on a peak, before he has to literally be put out to pasture. Its a great pity he was not ten years younger when Strictly began and then we could look forward to him hosting for years to come !!!.
What exactly has he done to earn a knighthood? He should be jolly grateful for the vastly inflated salary he receives in return for his utter medioctiry.
Honours should be reserved for those who work tirelessly for the good of others, or who can demonstrate great achievements, not for self serving egotistical has-beens.
Continuing to 'work' in his 80's is no indicator of the quality of his performance, even his fans here have noted his decline. It is time that he retired with dignity, but definitely without a knighthood.
Honours should be reserved for those who work tirelessly for the good of others, or who can demonstrate great achievements, not for self serving egotistical has-beens.
Continuing to 'work' in his 80's is no indicator of the quality of his performance, even his fans here have noted his decline. It is time that he retired with dignity, but definitely without a knighthood.
Originally Posted by mrs. harry:
“What exactly has he done to earn a knighthood? He should be jolly grateful for the vastly inflated salary he receives in return for his utter medioctiry.
Honours should be reserved for those who work tirelessly for the good of others, or who can demonstrate great achievements, not for self serving egotistical has-beens.
Continuing to 'work' in his 80's is no indicator of the quality of his performance, even his fans here have noted his decline. It is time that he retired with dignity, but definitely without a knighthood.”
“What exactly has he done to earn a knighthood? He should be jolly grateful for the vastly inflated salary he receives in return for his utter medioctiry.
Honours should be reserved for those who work tirelessly for the good of others, or who can demonstrate great achievements, not for self serving egotistical has-beens.
Continuing to 'work' in his 80's is no indicator of the quality of his performance, even his fans here have noted his decline. It is time that he retired with dignity, but definitely without a knighthood.”
That is a bit harsh especially when you consider others who have also received knighthoods in showbiz.
I am not keen on him and think that his jokes are tired and his timing is a bit off.
It seems like a lot of people do like him though especially older people who remember how good he was in the Generation game etc.
I think it might be best if he left at the end of this series when he still kind of at his peak rather than him declining more than he has already and having to be pushed out. A lot of people think he makes the show but he does seem to be in decline and it could be quite sad to watch if he stays on for another year or two.
It seems like a lot of people do like him though especially older people who remember how good he was in the Generation game etc.
I think it might be best if he left at the end of this series when he still kind of at his peak rather than him declining more than he has already and having to be pushed out. A lot of people think he makes the show but he does seem to be in decline and it could be quite sad to watch if he stays on for another year or two.
If giving him a knighthood meant he'd vanish from our screens, I'd be all for it!
Just because other showbiz 'personalities' have received them, it doesn't mean that he should. A great many of them were undeserved. His reward has been his salary, and the fame he obviously craves - that should be enough for him.
Just because other showbiz 'personalities' have received them, it doesn't mean that he should. A great many of them were undeserved. His reward has been his salary, and the fame he obviously craves - that should be enough for him.
Brucie has flashes of wit that have me rolling around laughing. sometimes his scripts aren't so hot, but his spontaneous funnies are hugely amusing.
Originally Posted by valkay:
“Terry Wogan would be a good replacement, he's done it before.”
“Terry Wogan would be a good replacement, he's done it before.”
There is more chance of Graham Norton being the next Pope.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Much of the audience is probably older than Brucie and a lot more watched him in the Generation Game in the same slots in the seventies. He is a sign of comforting continuity and a big part of the reason for the show's success . He creates the mood, humour defuses the seriousness and he smooths over any nastiness. You might find better technical presenters but they would be too young and unknown and none are that popular with an older audience - as shown by the complaints about Tess or Fearne or Holly. Graham Norton can't do everything and is less funny for more people . It doesn't need the skills of a breakfast TV presenter to keep things going and Brucie has a helper anyway. You could have a SCD character but none of the winners could do it and none of the dancers has any discernable qualities as a comic. Ironically Alesha is about the only winner available who could have a go and look what people are complaining about with her. Brucie is there till he has to go and the show may die with him.
Its a bit strange that some people are complaining about Brucie being too old and about Arlene being replaced for being too old. In the can't afford to retire future facing most people, Brucie is very much an example of what people will have to get used to.”
“Much of the audience is probably older than Brucie and a lot more watched him in the Generation Game in the same slots in the seventies. He is a sign of comforting continuity and a big part of the reason for the show's success . He creates the mood, humour defuses the seriousness and he smooths over any nastiness. You might find better technical presenters but they would be too young and unknown and none are that popular with an older audience - as shown by the complaints about Tess or Fearne or Holly. Graham Norton can't do everything and is less funny for more people . It doesn't need the skills of a breakfast TV presenter to keep things going and Brucie has a helper anyway. You could have a SCD character but none of the winners could do it and none of the dancers has any discernable qualities as a comic. Ironically Alesha is about the only winner available who could have a go and look what people are complaining about with her. Brucie is there till he has to go and the show may die with him.
Its a bit strange that some people are complaining about Brucie being too old and about Arlene being replaced for being too old. In the can't afford to retire future facing most people, Brucie is very much an example of what people will have to get used to.”
Ha ha!!
No, realistically, only a small percentage of the audience will be over 82 (not unless you include the recently deceased, and I don't think MANY of those watch)
I'm 60, and I remember seeing Brucie live in panto 50 years ago (Palace Theater, Manchester, I think). He was awsome -
and now, he is a pale shadow of what he was.
And " Doddery he is!!" Well yes actually.
How sad.
JJ
I expect he'll be substituted next year for a good-looking teenager who made his class laugh once.
In the meantime, I will carry on enjoying laughing with him
In the meantime, I will carry on enjoying laughing with him
Originally Posted by pierre_gustave:
“There is more chance of Graham Norton being the next Pope.”
“There is more chance of Graham Norton being the next Pope.”
He's not a Catholic!!
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