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Foxsat HDR - features
Dunwerkin
20-09-2009
Has anyone else had these four small niggles with the Foxsat HDR

1. switching from standby to ON sometimes takes two presses of the ON key.

2. Double key entries from the remote. i.e you think you have pressed the key once (OK for instance) but it actions twice - so you often end up where you started, as the default is often NO.

3. Slow movement from the direction arrows - such as navigating the EPG etc. Sometimes you think it hasn't received the input so you do it again, bujt it was just being bloody slow to react.

OR

4. Rapid movement from directions arrows - perhaps a version of the double key input as at 2. above. So you often overrun the selection you wanted.

My box is running the latest loader and firmware.
grahamlthompson
20-09-2009
Originally Posted by Dunwerkin:
“Has anyone else had these four small niggles with the Foxsat HDR

1. switching from standby to ON sometimes takes two presses of the ON key.

2. Double key entries from the remote. i.e you think you have pressed the key once (OK for instance) but it actions twice - so you often end up where you started, as the default is often NO.

3. Slow movement from the direction arrows - such as navigating the EPG etc. Sometimes you think it hasn't received the input so you do it again, bujt it was just being bloody slow to react.

OR

4. Rapid movement from directions arrows - perhaps a version of the double key input as at 2. above. So you often overrun the selection you wanted.

My box is running the latest loader and firmware.”

First question have you removed the clear protective film under the flap ?

I yes sometimes a second push is needed

2 again yes

3 The epg is sluggish while it's still downloading a new copy (until the video appears in the background). Try using the buffered epg (schedule and then red)
richard_g_uk
20-09-2009
I often have a case whereby changing channel by inputting the numbers directly does odd things. For example if I want to change to BBC 1 (i.e channel 101) I'll press 1 once and nothing will happen and then a second later I'll press 1 again and the HDR will then respond and display 11 onscreen (and front display).
swedish cook
20-09-2009
I've had two boxes so far, neither has exhibited the input delay described here. Do you have good signal ?
Dunwerkin
21-09-2009
Yes - all film has been removed

Yes - the signal is good.

I will check re the updating EPG.
White-Knight
21-09-2009
I get 3. occasionally but I'm sure BobCat said this is usually when the box is doing something unseen in the background. With the greatest respect, the others sound a bit like user error. You can't have a button that reacts both too fast and too slow. If it goes beyond where you wanted then you probably held it down to long. That's what I've always found to be the cause when I overshoot.
JeffG1
21-09-2009
Originally Posted by White-Knight:
“the others sound a bit like user error.”

Well, since I often get 1. as well (that's at least 3 of us), it's unlikely to be user error.

Until reading this, I thought maybe it was me, not pointing the control directly at the box the first time.
NewWorldMan
21-09-2009
Definitely 1, 3 and 4. Not sure about 2.
prinknash
21-09-2009
I get 1 more often than not.
richsedman
21-09-2009
I get 1 regularly - to the extent that I now press the power button twice every time. I also get delays when typing a channel number to change channel - sometimes meaning I repeat-press a key and have to start again. EPG sluggish but only while it's refreshing the EPG.
jonesyboy
22-09-2009
I can honestly say I do not suffer from any of the problems mentioned. The only thing I would say is the original batteries did not last long.
Chris Simon
22-09-2009
Originally Posted by Dunwerkin:
“2. Double key entries from the remote. i.e you think you have pressed the key once (OK for instance) but it actions twice - so you often end up where you started, as the default is often NO.

3. Slow movement from the direction arrows - such as navigating the EPG etc. Sometimes you think it hasn't received the input so you do it again, bujt it was just being bloody slow to react.

OR

4. Rapid movement from directions arrows - perhaps a version of the double key input as at 2. above. So you often overrun the selection you wanted.”

Yes, I get all these, and yes I have also removed the film! I think it's a mix of the remote being very directional, the box being not very responsive while it's doing something else, and the silver directional buttons on the remote being a bit hit and miss in that you don't know whether you've pressed them or not.
Meister
22-09-2009
I get these too but I dont care as long as the damned thing keeps working with no lock up / freezes
ProbablyMike
22-09-2009
Don't have any problems using the remote on my Foxsat HDR...

...well apart from when the dog is in the way, but then no remote can get through that thing lol
Dunwerkin
24-09-2009
Yes it does seem that I am not alone. Thanks for all your comments

As White-Knight says it could just be that I am an old codger

BUT I have been using remotes since they were invented. The first TV one I used was a mechanical pinging device that caused the channel to move to the next one - that's all you could do - there were only 3 channels at the time. If you wanted the volume up you had to get out of the chair - you young guys don't know you're born!!!
On top of that - I didn't have any trouble getting SKY+ to behave OK. BT Vision is still an absolute pain that receives about 50% of remote inputs OK - I have two remotes and they are the same - so I assume it is the box (my third).

BT Vision is great when it works. Upscaling is good and the box is full HD. It records Freeview of course, but I only keep it for downloading films (mostly HD) which come via the internet connection. The playback quality is excellent in HD, once you get the remote to PLAY.
Bob22A
25-09-2009
The Humax remote control on the FOXSAT is not good. I have been toying with the idea of replacing it with something better. Besides it burning through batteries like no tomorrow it is very directional. This may account for the odd responses you get from it
grahamlthompson
26-09-2009
Originally Posted by Bob22A:
“The Humax remote control on the FOXSAT is not good. I have been toying with the idea of replacing it with something better. Besides it burning through batteries like no tomorrow it is very directional. This may account for the odd responses you get from it”

Got to ask, have you removed the protective film from under the flap ?
Pugwash69
26-09-2009
Shall I ask him as well, just to be sure?

I leave the front flap down on mine, else reception of IR is bad. Stupid little window!
JeffG1
26-09-2009
Originally Posted by Pugwash69:
“I leave the front flap down on mine”

It took me ages to work out that the front flap actually opened - I thought I must have a different model to the one illustrated in the handbook, since I was trying every which way to open it without success until I finally sussed how to do it.
mikeydb
27-09-2009
Originally Posted by jonesyboy:
“I can honestly say I do not suffer from any of the problems mentioned. The only thing I would say is the original batteries did not last long.”

I've had none of those problems either! Haven't had my unit long enough to test the battery life, I bought mine in June.
Panman1300
27-09-2009
I've had my unit since last November. As I have other AV units I use a Logitech Harmony 1000 as my main remote to control them as one. I also have a Harmony 688 plus the original Humax remote.

My viewing position is about 5 meters from the PVR/TV, with the PVR directly below the TV and dead ahead. The PVR/TV are dead centre on a flat wall. And, of course, BOTH films have been removed (it did take a while before I found the inner one - I thought it had been missed off at first).

From this position all three remotes work first time every time. The Humax remote is the first to stop getting a response if I tilt it up towards the ceiling (I would guess around 30deg from the horizontal. Slightly better pointing the remote towards either side wall.

If I move directly left or right to either wall, all three units still get a response (pointing the remotes at the PVR). It's only when I start to move down the side wall towards the wall with the units that the response stops from all three remotes. I would guess at about 30deg from the centre. If I lower the flap on the PVR I can get to around 45deg before the unit fails to respond. This would be consistent with the outer flap covering the sensor at these angles.

So from my normal viewing position, as long as I point the remote (any remote) at the PVR they all get the desired response. It's only when pointing the remotes at odd angles that the responses fail - and the Humax is always the first. This must be due to the position of the IR transmitter within the remote, and the amount of spread it achieves.
MOB
27-09-2009
Originally Posted by Pugwash69:
“Shall I ask him as well, just to be sure?

I leave the front flap down on mine, else reception of IR is bad. Stupid little window!”

Try cleaning the "stupid little window", especially if you are a smoker. I use a Philips Pronto to control everything in the house, and the learning window on that is really tiny! A bit of spit & polish works wonders.
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