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Who were the real instigater's of punk?
I know one's definition of punk may vary.....but if we look at the general meaning of punk- I would state these bands:
The New York Dolls...followed closely by the Ramones...and finally - The Sex Pistols.......who took it to another extreme .......and influenced many a band. |
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there was a similar discussion on the "john lydon snubs everything" thread - it got heated!
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Iggy Pop-The Godfather of Punk
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Iggy Pop-The Godfather of Punk
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Iggy - over- rated.
New York Dolls - worthy. The Ramones- worthy '' Sex Pistols - worthy '' Clash - worthy '' Damned - worthy |
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NYD's and Iggy. Everything else came after.
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I know there's an argument for MC5. Some consider "Kick Out The Jams" to be the first Punk Rock track.
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In all honesty I think it can be traced right back to the sixties. A lot of the garage music from the mid-late 60s is a definate fore-runner of punk.
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ill probably get shot for saying this but I can see part of the idea of punk in Status Quo. Before you all laugh hear me out, from 1970 to 1976 Quo were a 4 piece Rock band.
They didnt follow any fashion in music like prog or glam rock and did their own thing simple shuffle/ 12 bar blues/ Rock N Roll now a lot of punk records follow a similar type of beat. They were also very loud to quote them on stage once "hello your not going to like us we make records and we are very loud" have a listen to these two tracks and see what you think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIWNSBE5_rE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqDMR...eature=related |
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I have often read, and I have watched many documentaries that propose, that punk originated with US bands, such as the New York Dolls, The Ramones, Iggy Pop, etc, but I don't really buy it.
Punk, as I and most other people know it, started in the UK with the Sex Pistols. I doubt that most of the kids who got into punk in '76-'77 ever listened to these US bands. They may well have influenced the punk bands, but they are quite different in terms of style, and, if we keep going back to bands who influenced other bands, where do you stop? |
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ill probably get shot for saying this but I can see part of the idea of punk in Status Quo.
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The Troggs: Quote:
The Troggs are widely seen as a highly influential band whose sound was one inspiration for garage rock and punk rock. For example, Iggy Pop of the Stooges has cited the Troggs as influential to their sound, and the early version of British pop-punk pioneers Buzzcocks featured I Can't Control Myself in their live repertoire. The Ramones are also amongst punk bands who cited the Troggs as an influence. The MC5 covered "I Want You" at their live shows and recorded the song for the album "Kick out the Jams", although they renamed it "I Want You Right Now".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troggs
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the damned
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Boy George
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NEU!, and in particular Klaus Dinger. Listen to the second side of NEU! 75 and I'm sure you'll see what I mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMFtNEmzOVo&fmt=18 < this track kicks it off, and is one of my favourite songs of all time. |
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I would have to go with the Sex Pistols. They may not have invented the sound, although they certainly added to it, but they were the most important instigators of the punk movement/revolution.
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All forms of music evolve so there is no definitive answer. Lou Reed was certainly an influence though.
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I would have to go with the Sex Pistols. They may not have invented the sound, although they certainly added to it, but they were the most important instigators of the punk movement/revolution.
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But would that be Lydon, Jones, Cook & Matlock or would it be down to Malcolm McLaren?
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But would that be Lydon, Jones, Cook & Matlock or would it be down to Malcolm McLaren?
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In all honesty I think it can be traced right back to the sixties. A lot of the garage music from the mid-late 60s is a definate fore-runner of punk.
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I have often read, and I have watched many documentaries that propose, that punk originated with US bands, such as the New York Dolls, The Ramones, Iggy Pop, etc, but I don't really buy it.
Punk, as I and most other people know it, started in the UK with the Sex Pistols. I doubt that most of the kids who got into punk in '76-'77 ever listened to these US bands. They may well have influenced the punk bands, but they are quite different in terms of style, and, if we keep going back to bands who influenced other bands, where do you stop? Quote:
indeed, the troggs were the FIRST group i ever heard refered to as 'punk'...id also suggest that the who's 'my generation' was a punk anthem... just wau ahead of its time. Quote:
But would that be Lydon, Jones, Cook & Matlock or would it be down to Malcolm McLaren?
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. McLaren's importance is over-rated imo, mostly thanks to the fictional and self-serving great rock'n'roll swindle
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