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Old 08-01-2013, 20:48
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It is very strange that a violent sexual assault causing the victim to be hospitalised for four days was not fully investigated, complaint made by the victim or not...
There can only be an investigation if a complaint has been made.. No one can be forced to go to the police
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Old 08-01-2013, 20:49
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It is very strange that a violent sexual assault causing the victim to be hospitalised for four days was not fully investigated, complaint made by the victim or not...
If she had been in hospital for four days the hospital would have been duty bound to inform the police anyway. This is just one reason I don't believe UJ's story.
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Old 08-01-2013, 20:53
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Not all hospitals are required to report a rape..they are NOT duty bound
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Old 08-01-2013, 21:01
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Whether or not it's the hospital's job to report it to the police, it should be every woman's duty to report it in case it happens to another woman. If it happened to you Betty, wouldn't you want to see the person responsible brought to justice?

I know I would.
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Old 08-01-2013, 21:05
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Whether or not it's the hospital's job to report it to the police, it should be every woman's duty to report it in case it happens to another woman. If it happened to you Betty, wouldn't you want to see the person responsible brought to justice?

I know I would.
Whilst I partly agree..the treatment women get whilst in court puts many many women off going to the police..the procedure needs to be changed

In all honesty I don't know what I would do... And I don't want to find out
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Old 08-01-2013, 21:17
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What Ulrika did to John Leslie was dispicable, she waited until she had a book to sell before she mentioned rape and then let people make assumptions, she could have said whether it was him or not, she wasted god knows how much police time and the taxpayer paid for it, John Leslie was destroyed, no wonder he ended up on drugs.

These women who cry rape to the media for attention, money or whatever are an insult to genuine victims. If they were raped either report it, or not, that is the woman's decision and they must struggle with it, but when it is thrown out there to the tabloids it just sounds like they are lying.
And if he DID rape her, would she still be despicable? BIB - this just sounds moronic, sorry. You're not a genuine victim of rape if you spoke to a journalist?

All three of them bear some responsibility

Matthew Wright for not being able to link his brain and mouth, which unfortunately is a common occurance on the Wright Stuff, one of the worst panel discussion shows in television history

John Leslie for having no sense of self-control and living a life second only to Michael Barrymore in terms of life and career meltdown

Ulrika Jonsson for never clarifying whether Leslie was the alleged attacker or not, and for never reporting the alleged rape in the first instance.
She couldn't have said that he was without him suing her. She could only have spoken out to clarify that it wasn't him. And why wouldn't she?
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Old 08-01-2013, 21:19
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She couldn't have said that he was without him suing her. She could only have spoken out to clarify that it wasn't him. And why wouldn't she?
More to the point, why didn't she?
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Old 08-01-2013, 21:22
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More to the point, why didn't she?
Because he could have sued her. You can't just accuse people in the press, you have to go through the legal procedure.

She let people know she was raped, she didn't want to go to the police. Her decision. The chances of a conviction after so long would have been virtually non-existent.

If you mean why did she say it wasn't him - well, perhaps because it was?
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Old 08-01-2013, 21:31
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Because he could have sued her. You can't just accuse people in the press, you have to go through the legal procedure.

She let people know she was raped, she didn't want to go to the police. Her decision. The chances of a conviction after so long would have been virtually non-existent.

If you mean why did she say it wasn't him - well, perhaps because it was?
I think you've misunderstood.

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She could only have spoken out to clarify that it wasn't him
What I meant when I asked why didn't she, was if she'd said it wasn't him, she'd have been saving an innocent man a lot of heartache. I don't believe he did it, because if he had, why didn't she go to the police in the first place? Naturally if it wasn't him she'd have been sued if she'd named him - that goes without saying.
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Old 08-01-2013, 21:34
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Not all hospitals are required to report a rape..they are NOT duty bound
For a sexual assault of this alleged seriousness, the hospital would have called the police in the interest of public safety. After the police had investigated, the CPS would have been informed and they would make the decision to attempt prosecution based on likelihood of conviction and again public safety issues. UJ would have had to work extremely hard to dissuade the police and CPS from pressing ahead with this.
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Old 08-01-2013, 21:37
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For a sexual assault of this alleged seriousness, the hospital would have called the police in the interest of public safety. After the police had investigated, the CPS would have been informed and they would make the decision to attempt prosecution based on likelihood of conviction and again public safety issues. UJ would have had to work extremely hard to dissuade the police and CPS from pressing ahead with this.
BiB - that's just what I thought kaybee.
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Old 12-01-2013, 07:26
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lets just hope whoever the tv presenter was he didnt rape someone else!!
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