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Old 21-09-2009, 21:04
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Lily Allen's posting on her blog about the evil's of piracy would have had more credibility if it wasn't for the fact she lifted 90% of the article from Mike Masnick's post over at Techdirt.com and gave him absolutely no credit for it.

Plagiarism is still a copyright violation Lily so in effect, she is just as bad as the pirates.

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Old 21-09-2009, 21:08
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The whole career is based on hypocrisy isn't it? Seem to remember her single "The Fear" slagging off girls who got naked in the tabloids and a couple of weeks later there she was in the tabloids with her arse hanging out.
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Old 21-09-2009, 21:12
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I had forgotten about that, she also did topless shots for a magazine too, think it was Arena but I could be wrong. And on the Radio 1 roadshow tour she was pulled up for trying to encourage people to go named saying she would too. Ewwww.
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Old 21-09-2009, 21:33
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She's made a career out of BS and being fake, just like that fake cockney singing voice that morphs in to middle-class tones when being interviewed.
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Old 21-09-2009, 21:48
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I remember in that article she slags off Simon Cowell's effect on the music industry but isn't she a big fan of X Factor. I remember her getting in on the whole Laura White debate. She's the biggest fake in the industry and it would be ok if her songs were good.. however.
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Old 22-09-2009, 16:54
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Yeh - she's a total hypocrite - I hope this bandwagon that she's jumped on ends up running her career right off the road.
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Old 22-09-2009, 17:06
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I think its funny how she's now posted on her blog "I THINK ITS OBVIOUS I DIDN'T TRY AND PASS OFF SOMEONES WORK OFF AS MY OWN" or something along those lines.


Yea right, Lily. I think its obvious you did and its completely backfired.
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Old 22-09-2009, 17:09
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It will undoubtedly backfire, it did for Metallica years ago with their stance on Napster. Mind you, with the drivel that Lily releases I doubt any self respecting pirate would even bother downloading her stuff, even foir free her music isn't worth the money

And it is also being reported that he has apologised for her own "piracy".
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Old 22-09-2009, 17:44
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Yeah she says she wasn't trying to pass off Mike's work as her own, well that makes it ok then. All those nasty pirates sharing your music online aren't trying to pass it off as their own either so are they OK now too?
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Old 22-09-2009, 17:47
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She's a shameless creature of the media, a corporate doll. I will admit I think she has a sweet singing voice, but her popularity doesn't acknowledge the fact that there are millions of people in this world with a good singing voice. Pop music is almost entirely hype.
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Old 22-09-2009, 18:19
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True, restricted playlists on radio stations mean many young artists don't get the chance to have their music heard without getting a following online first and giving music away for free in their early days.

Hang on, didn't a certain Ms Allen complain of that very thing and got famous by giving music away via her Myspace page?. Now she turns on the very people who made her famous and got her the record deal in the first place. The hypocrisy of the woman grows in leaps and bounds.
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Old 22-09-2009, 18:38
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True, restricted playlists on radio stations mean many young artists don't get the chance to have their music heard without getting a following online first and giving music away for free in their early days.

Hang on, didn't a certain Ms Allen complain of that very thing and got famous by giving music away via her Myspace page?. Now she turns on the very people who made her famous and got her the record deal in the first place. The hypocrisy of the woman grows in leaps and bounds.
Hang on, I think you're making a bit of a leap here. Giving away music for free if no one knows is a good strategy, even itunes do it. If you don't know someone, you're more inclined to download their song if it's free, cos you think 'well it's a free track, if i don't like it, i've lost nothing'. If it's a free legal download then that's not the same as piracy
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Old 22-09-2009, 18:39
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Hypocrisy requires at least two dimensions so I don't see how it could apply.
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Old 22-09-2009, 19:18
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Everything that's ever came out of her mouth is total bullshit anyway...so why should people be surprised about a little hypocrisy?
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Old 23-09-2009, 11:28
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I can't believe she's taking it upon herself to lead the frontiere in artists against filesharing... her blog is so badly written with many loopholes in the arguments. Its only support is the odd email she's getting from other 'artists' who seem to be on the fence about it anyway. After a few replies they'll forget it existed and the blog will vanish.

The comments are funny though, she's getting owned!
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Old 23-09-2009, 12:48
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most of her songs are covers, I guess that makes her the biggest pirate. When she actually sings her own songs, all i can hear is childish lyrics, and feminist propaganda. That state of britpop !

Bring back Billy Bragg
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Old 23-09-2009, 12:52
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I might take her more seriously if she released decent music. Unfortunately i've had to listen to her on TMS all summer while trying to listen to the cricket. I'm now going to illegally download all her albums, just because i can.
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Old 24-09-2009, 02:40
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It seems Ms Allen has been doing some illegal file sharing herslf:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...09046297.shtml

http://torrentfreak.com/lily-allen-p...yright-090923/

This is absolutely hilarious
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Old 24-09-2009, 02:56
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Hang on, I think you're making a bit of a leap here. Giving away music for free if no one knows is a good strategy, even itunes do it. If you don't know someone, you're more inclined to download their song if it's free, cos you think 'well it's a free track, if i don't like it, i've lost nothing'. If it's a free legal download then that's not the same as piracy
Very true, however Lily herself says on her blog that "music can't be free, how can it" yet in her early days she gave away music for free. It now turns out she freely gave away mixtape MP3s on her website featuring artists that were not on the EMI catalogue in violation of copyright laws.
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Old 24-09-2009, 10:31
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This is a interesting read, pretty severe on Allen -

http://beatsmash.com/2009/09/24/file...fs-lily-allen/
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Old 24-09-2009, 12:57
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It will undoubtedly backfire, it did for Metallica years ago with their stance on Napster. Mind you, with the drivel that Lily releases I doubt any self respecting pirate would even bother downloading her stuff, even foir free her music isn't worth the money

And it is also being reported that he has apologised for her own "piracy".
I hate when people post comments like this.

As a result of metallica taking napster to court, napster then became a pay to use service and metallica recieved a massive pay out.

Add that to the fact that try are one of the biggest bands in the world and their most recent album topped the charts all over the world even paving the way for their own guitar hero.

How can you even suggest thy their stance against file sharing backfired?

Are you an idiot?
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Old 24-09-2009, 12:59
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I love how she only got famous in the first place by posting all her music up on MySpace for free anyway. She wouldn't be where she is now if internet downloading didn't exist.
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Old 24-09-2009, 13:22
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[H]er blog is so badly written with many loopholes in the arguments. [...] The comments are funny though, she's getting owned!
It is comments like yours that lack substance. Lily's basic premise is irrefutable: file sharing in the digital age is bad news for most artists.
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Old 24-09-2009, 13:43
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If it is bad news, then the music industry has to do whatever other business losing money does and downscale or die. No one said the age of mass-produced music being a goldmine was gonna last forever and IMO file sharing is never going to be stopped unless the entire internet is shut down. The government and ISP providers can barely police e-terrorists and child porn sharers, yet alone people who share music files. The estimates are that forty billion songs were illegally shared last year, no agency in the world has the manpower to police that.

All these artists like Lily and Hayes et al. moaning about them also seem to forget that in a capitalist world ISP providers also need to make money and that banning people en masse from the internet is not exactly going to help them financially.
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Old 24-09-2009, 14:08
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If it is bad news, then the music industry has to do whatever other business losing money does and downscale or die.
"Downscale or die" is not a serious option. You are simply wrong on this point. As anyone who reads the trade papers will know, the tide is finally beginning to turn on this very important issue. Read the Digital Britain report and educate yourself. The British Government is demanding a substantial cut in filesharing by this time next year. If targets are not met, robust, new legislation will be introduced.

And not just in the UK. President Nicolas Sarkozy also summarises the situation pretty well:

"How can there be areas of lawlessness in areas of our society? How can one simultaneously claim that the economy is regulated but the Internet is not so? How can we accept that the rules that apply to society as a whole are not binding on the Internet? [...] By defending copyright I do not just defend artistic creation, I also defend my idea of a free society where everyone’s freedom is based on respect for the rights of others. I am also defending the future of our culture. It is the future of creation."

In a couple of years from now, it won't just be the Pirate Bay that's getting its arse well and truly kicked.
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