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Alesha Dixon in 'crisis talks' with BBC to repair shattered image
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Servalan
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by dome:
“Well there should be, if she doesn't pull it off this week it'll get even worse.”

Pull what off?

Who will decide that?

There are clearly differing opinions - so there is nothing to pull off ... yet.

The post mortem takes place in December. Not now.

And certainly not from a reheated Daily Mirror story, served up with a dash of spite and a sprinkle of lazy journalism.

:yawn:
Ficklepickle
24-09-2009
They do make it sound like the Northern Ireland peace process. "Crisis talks" - laissez moi rire! Pity there are no real sources...

That said, the "revelation" that the Daily Mail is anti-BBC can't disguise the fact that Dixon hasn't been very good, at least not in the two shows so far.
jjackson42
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by Ficklepickle:
“They do make it sound like the Northern Ireland peace process. "Crisis talks" - laissez moi rire! Pity there are no real sources...

That said, the "revelation" that the Daily Mail is anti-BBC can't disguise the fact that Dixon hasn't been very good, at least not in the two shows so far.”

Yet Shirley Ballas - one of the most respected dance coach and judges in the world, and NOT in the pay of the BBC, says her comments were spot on!!

JJ
Ficklepickle
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by jjackson42:
“Yet Shirley Ballas - one of the most respected dance coach and judges in the world, and NOT in the pay of the BBC, says her comments were spot on!!

JJ”

Right... which ones precisely?
thenetworkbabe
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by AndrewAC:
“I think you will find that most judges/commentators etc all take notes/one-liners/prompts into the comm box or judging panel or practice them beforehand.

There's no shame in that - It's actually called being professional and doing your homework.

Seriously, people have gotta leave this poor girl alone - She's there for the very simple reason that she used to be a contestant on the show and is able to look at things from a different angle...just like cheryl cole on x-factor etc.”

She's there too for the very simple reason that the old judging panel had failed completely after losing credibility over the last 3 series. There was no point in keeping a panel that just produced votes for whoever danced worse and you couldn't continue a show where joke dancers survived, potential finalists went and the winners were clearly not the best dancers or even second best because the judges were ignored. Alesha is a key part of a necessary makeover designed to make the panel more voter friendly and credible.

The Mail story is a nonsense. In most reality skill shows the judges watch the rehearsals - often because its impossible to hear well enough on the live singing shows or because its impossible to build a very good impression on whats going right or wrong on a quick once over look. The trick is not to mark the rehearsal and adapt if things change in the live version - ideally without looking too shocked at the difference. .
dome
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“Pull what off?

Who will decide that?

There are clearly differing opinions - so there is nothing to pull off ... yet.

The post mortem takes place in December. Not now.

And certainly not from a reheated Daily Mirror story, served up with a dash of spite and a sprinkle of lazy journalism.

:yawn:”

You may well yawn, but I doubt the BBC are enjoying this sort of publicity at the moment and will want it to disappear quickly.
dome
24-09-2009
Quote:
“It remains to be seen how long Strictly will remain on the back foot. Once tabloid editors sink their teeth into a show, it is no easy task prising them off.

The Phillips ageism row, the scheduling against The X Factor and Dixon's lacklustre judging debut combined over the weekend to make a "perfect storm", much of it the BBC's own making. Don't expect this weekend's papers to be full of "Alesha's amazing comeback!" stories. It's going to take rather longer than that.

What Strictly needs is another story to tell. It won't be Martina Hingis, after she was voted off. But it might be Joe Calzaghe, who featured in no fewer than five pictures with his dance partner Kristina Rihanoff, also in today's Daily Mirror (although the pics aren't in the online story). The PR fightback starts now.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...rlene-phillips
radiofan
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by dome:
“You may well yawn, but I doubt the BBC are enjoying this sort of publicity at the moment and will want it to disappear quickly.”

Servalan welcome back, I'm with you all the way with your comments and dome the BBC are loving the publicity its a sort of reverse psychology. i bet simon cowell is jealous, more people will tune in, to see what the fuss is all about.

i've put a bet on paddy power to decide how long it would take for the alesha witch hunt to subside, the news media has been absolutely revolting
rickster1995
24-09-2009
surely alesha didnt think that everyone was going to be happy with her appointment as a judge ?
jjackson42
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by Ficklepickle:
“Right... which ones precisely?”

All of them!! I'm trying to find the link to her blog and will post it when I do.



Its Sandra Fortuna's Blog - but the same criteria also apply. Very experienced and NOT in the pay of the BBC.

JJ
-Sid-
24-09-2009
It's not Alesha's image that is tarnished.

It's the BBC's.
dome
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“It's not Alesha's image that is tarnished.

It's the BBC's.”

Exactly, but she will be tarnished with the same brush.
Servalan
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by dome:
“You may well yawn, but I doubt the BBC are enjoying this sort of publicity at the moment and will want it to disappear quickly.”

I doubt they're enjoying it either - but I suspect it's more likely they are living in another world where they think it's not that important and will die down.

They have a shock in store: The Guardian is right about the tabloids being reluctant to let go after sinking their fangs into what they see as a victim. Hence them inventing 'stories' ...

But please can it all end soon? Can't Joe and Kristina get engaged or something?
dome
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“I doubt they're enjoying it either - but I suspect it's more likely they are living in another world where they think it's not that important and will die down.

They have a shock in store: The Guardian is right about the tabloids being reluctant to let go after sinking their fangs into what they see as a victim. Hence them inventing 'stories' ...

But please can it all end soon? Can't Joe and Kristina get engaged or something?”

Nothing would surprise me, I don't doubt that their 'romancing' was instigated and actively encouraged by the Beeb.
SideshowStu
24-09-2009
I think the reverse psychology theory is a tad optimistic and that there is such a thing as bad publicity tbh...It might be unfair and at times repellent but I doubt that most people reading it will be looking for ulterior motives unfortuneately, and many would be delighted to see their own prejudices 'confirmed' in print.

As far as viewing figures go, I think it's possible that more will tune in to watch the show, but a large proportion will be looking for all the negatives and hoping to see some car crash TV, and if they don't get the real thing will happily rubbish it anyway
Ficklepickle
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by jjackson42:
“All of them!! I'm trying to find the link to her blog and will post it when I do.

JJ”

But my point is that most of her comments were so platitudinous that it would be difficult to say whether they were "spot on" or not. Is it not possible in this context that Shirley Ballas just wanted to say something supportive of someone who has been disproportionately attacked?

Don't get me wrong, the amount of tabloid shrieking about Alesha Dixon has been out of proportion, and some of it just plain nasty. And she might well get better. But I don't reckon she's been that great in the first couple of shows. That's all I'm saying.
katie_p
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Alesha is a key part of a necessary makeover designed to make the panel more voter friendly and credible.”

It's worked a treat don't you think?

I can't stop remarking on how much the voters love and respect the judging panel now that Alesha is on it!
radiofan
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by SideshowStu:
“I think the reverse psychology theory is a tad optimistic and that there is such a thing as bad publicity tbh...It might be unfair and at times repellent but I doubt that most people reading it will be looking for ulterior motives unfortuneately, and many would be delighted to see their own prejudices 'confirmed' in print.

As far as viewing figures go, I think it's possible that more will tune in to watch the show, but a large proportion will be looking for all the negatives and hoping to see some car crash TV, and if they don't get the real thing will happily rubbish it anyway ”

i find it disturbing that some people relish in the downfall of others, did their mum or dad not hug them enough when they were little.i believe in karma what goes around comes around, so sending positive messages will bring positive things
Dolby Kid
24-09-2009
Racist attack by the Daily Mail on a young woman - what else is new?

She's young, sexy, and successful - everything Die Hate Mail detests.

I wonder is she Jewish too? That would explain their pressing need to attack her on a daily basis, the xenophobic bunch of bigots.
BuddyBontheNet
24-09-2009
I thought Alesha was just fine and totally agree with Alesha's own thoughts i.e. "It's a storm in a tea cup."

I loved every bit of the shows last weekend and didn't miss Arlene once.

Alesha isn't even on the front page of any newspaper, so take a reality check - just how big a story is this?
SideshowStu
24-09-2009
I didn't think Alesha particularly shone at the weekend tbh, but my first couple of days at work weren't exactly electrifying either as I remember it, and I didn't have 7million people watching me with an awful lot of them wanting me to fail before I'd even opened my mouth. Neither was I replacing someone who was undoubtedly far more knowledgable than me who had also suddenly taken on sainthood status...

Oh, and the local paper didn't watch my every move and report that I fumbled around for a few days and generally seemed a bit lost...I do think Alesha has to improve over the coming weeks but I'd like her to get the full 12weeks probationary period that I did
Vientre
24-09-2009
Now if it had been the mirror or god forbid the guardian it would no doubt be more readily accepted by the self loathing pc goons.
Tissy
24-09-2009
This really is taking all the spotlight away from the celebs this year
BIDIE-IN
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“It's not Alesha's image that is tarnished.

It's the BBC's.”

There is no shame in the BBC being big enough to admit - now - that it got this wrong, that Alesha does not have the kind of experience that viewers - and contestants and pro dancers - have come to EXPECT on SCD, and that choreographer Shirley Ballas will be judging from now on.

Alesha can do back stage interviews and the behind the scenes footage every week for ITT.

You can picture the pens being sharpened as the 'Glendas' of the tabloid press get ready to pick apart every single thing Alesha says this weekend - unfair on the girl, but it will happen.

I read she is to see the rehearsals so she can prepare her comments - but suppose a rehearsal is good, and the performance the viewers see is rubbish? We would be back to square one.

There is nothing wrong with admitting an error - it takes guts - but I really do not see any way forward for SCD in the coming weeks.
dome
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by Vientre:
“Now if it had been the mirror or god forbid the guardian it would no doubt be more readily accepted by the self loathing pc goons.”

The piece was originally from the Mirror. The Daily Mail just re reported it.
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