3D Tv's - are we ready for them?

DippyBlonder · 29-09-2009, 17:37

I am!

I'll admit that I can't wait to buy a 3D television BUT they are all so expensive. http://www.3dreadytelevisions.com/exm/3D_Ready_Shop/

Sky is bringing out a 3d channel next year, it seems almost every film coming out is in 3d, there is obviously a market for it. Surely the price has got to come down soon?

-GONZO- · 29-09-2009, 18:15

I think I can live without it for now as ive only just gone HD.(Well TV and Blu Ray for now)
I can see it now, BBC will want the license fee to increase even more than they want it to already to give us a BBC 3DHD channel.
I cant afford SKY now, let alone SKY HD, then extra for SKY 3D.

RobAnt · 29-09-2009, 19:12

Try crossing your eyes. Works for me

Jarrak · 29-09-2009, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DippyBlonder

Sky is bringing out a 3d channel next year, it seems almost every film coming out is in 3d, there is obviously a market for it. Surely the price has got to come down soon?

Rumours indicate 3D will go to the pubs first before the domestic audience and have a look how many movies are released by the US studios and then count how many are in 3D, it's not exactly a big percentage and it will only last if the cinema audiences are prepared to pay extra.

There is no chance of the price of 3D televisions falling anytime soon, they are not even being sold yet (those listed are simply HD displays which will show 3D when wearing coloured specs, any CRT can do that).

If you are serious about 3D then you want the polarised displays ($1000 markup mentioned by LG) and it took LCD and Plasma years before the mass market started shifting million unit numbers which made cost cutting viable.

Still if you have the money then go for it

GeoffNI · 29-09-2009, 19:38

Well Sky are claiming that you need glasses for there service, I don't like that idea. Plus earlier rumors suggest that it may be 1 or 2 3D channels. Not everything will be given resources to go 3D only the most prestigious programming such as movies and some sport. But even now with the testing I believe 3D is totally changing the way they cover the games and are having to choose different angles and camera positions to get a decent angle for 3D viewers. It will not be like HD in the way we could expect multiple channels for different genre's.

meltcity · 29-09-2009, 23:49

Sky's 3D broadcast system involves squishing two 960 x 1080 images into a single frame, scaling each half resolution image back to full frame and then alternating between them.

So it's 3DTV, but it's not HDTV.

Robert__law · 30-09-2009, 14:10

CH4 is to broadcast 3d programs using the new "colour code " sytem which involves wearing glasses unlike the old sytem the image is breathtaking in full colour , virgin 1 showed an episode of Chuck using this system.

with colour code we could have 3d TV with out the need to buy a new TV all you need is a per of specs, if you google there site you can see photos it was very good

Robert__law · 30-09-2009, 14:12

I think the colour code system is far superior to sky I watched chuck upscaled to 1080i there is no reason why this system can not be broadcast in HD unlike the sky system which cant

Pugwash69 · 30-09-2009, 14:16

I've only recently replaced my TV's with flat panels, now they want to make them 3D again?

frasera · 30-09-2009, 14:22

color code still degrades the image to an unacceptable level. the only route forward is high refresh screens with lcd shutter glasses. any method that doesn't separate the images perfectly for each eye just leads to eye strain, an inferior experience and just a waste of money. the new films have very good very immersive 3d, instead of the gimmicky 3d of the past, to replicate that at home you need full frame separation. any inferior implementation will be nothing more than a gimmick.

JamesParkin · 30-09-2009, 14:33

I only got my 46" in April, the wife will kill me if I upgrade again

David (2) · 30-09-2009, 22:07

there's millions of us that will never be able to see 3D how it should be seen.
Cant we have a system whereby the 3d is in the tv screen (although it would need another new tv).

gomezz · 01-10-2009, 13:10

My concern is that that 3DTV will show as degraded 2DTV quality when watched on non-3DTV equipment.

Jarrak · 01-10-2009, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezz

My concern is that that 3DTV will show as degraded 2DTV quality when watched on non-3DTV equipment.

Which is one reason why SKY will be offering a separate 3D service but channels that use the old fashioned colour coded system of whatever variety will ruin the viewing experience for everyone else.

As a gimmick that fine but it's madness to have it as part of the regular schedule on a main channel, maybe the normal version on one channel and simulcast 3D on the other.
Along a similar vein I wonder if the obsession with 3D will impact on the 2D viewing of movies because we've seen in the past the money shots of things zooming towards the viewer may work in 3D but are pathetic in 2D and serve little purpose.

29-09-2009, 17:37	#1
DippyBlonder Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 7	3D Tv's - are we ready for them? I am! I'll admit that I can't wait to buy a 3D television BUT they are all so expensive. http://www.3dreadytelevisions.com/exm/3D_Ready_Shop/ Sky is bringing out a 3d channel next year, it seems almost every film coming out is in 3d, there is obviously a market for it. Surely the price has got to come down soon?

29-09-2009, 18:15	#2
-GONZO- Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 8,954	I think I can live without it for now as ive only just gone HD.(Well TV and Blu Ray for now) I can see it now, BBC will want the license fee to increase even more than they want it to already to give us a BBC 3DHD channel. I cant afford SKY now, let alone SKY HD, then extra for SKY 3D.

29-09-2009, 19:12	#3
RobAnt Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South West Posts: 10,218	Try crossing your eyes. Works for me

29-09-2009, 19:27	#4
Jarrak Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ilkeston Posts: 18,075	Quote: Originally Posted by DippyBlonder Sky is bringing out a 3d channel next year, it seems almost every film coming out is in 3d, there is obviously a market for it. Surely the price has got to come down soon? Rumours indicate 3D will go to the pubs first before the domestic audience and have a look how many movies are released by the US studios and then count how many are in 3D, it's not exactly a big percentage and it will only last if the cinema audiences are prepared to pay extra. There is no chance of the price of 3D televisions falling anytime soon, they are not even being sold yet (those listed are simply HD displays which will show 3D when wearing coloured specs, any CRT can do that). If you are serious about 3D then you want the polarised displays ($1000 markup mentioned by LG) and it took LCD and Plasma years before the mass market started shifting million unit numbers which made cost cutting viable. Still if you have the money then go for it

29-09-2009, 19:38	#5
GeoffNI Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 2,609	Well Sky are claiming that you need glasses for there service, I don't like that idea. Plus earlier rumors suggest that it may be 1 or 2 3D channels. Not everything will be given resources to go 3D only the most prestigious programming such as movies and some sport. But even now with the testing I believe 3D is totally changing the way they cover the games and are having to choose different angles and camera positions to get a decent angle for 3D viewers. It will not be like HD in the way we could expect multiple channels for different genre's.

29-09-2009, 23:49	#6
meltcity Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,770	Sky's 3D broadcast system involves squishing two 960 x 1080 images into a single frame, scaling each half resolution image back to full frame and then alternating between them. So it's 3DTV, but it's not HDTV.

30-09-2009, 14:10	#7
Robert__law Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: DUNDEE Posts: 1,318	CH4 is to broadcast 3d programs using the new "colour code " sytem which involves wearing glasses unlike the old sytem the image is breathtaking in full colour , virgin 1 showed an episode of Chuck using this system. with colour code we could have 3d TV with out the need to buy a new TV all you need is a per of specs, if you google there site you can see photos it was very good

30-09-2009, 14:12	#8
Robert__law Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: DUNDEE Posts: 1,318	I think the colour code system is far superior to sky I watched chuck upscaled to 1080i there is no reason why this system can not be broadcast in HD unlike the sky system which cant

30-09-2009, 14:16	#9
Pugwash69 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Sticks Posts: 3,720	I've only recently replaced my TV's with flat panels, now they want to make them 3D again?

30-09-2009, 14:22	#10
frasera Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,063	color code still degrades the image to an unacceptable level. the only route forward is high refresh screens with lcd shutter glasses. any method that doesn't separate the images perfectly for each eye just leads to eye strain, an inferior experience and just a waste of money. the new films have very good very immersive 3d, instead of the gimmicky 3d of the past, to replicate that at home you need full frame separation. any inferior implementation will be nothing more than a gimmick.

30-09-2009, 14:33	#11
JamesParkin Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Londinium Posts: 1,850	I only got my 46" in April, the wife will kill me if I upgrade again

30-09-2009, 22:07	#12
David (2) Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: S.West England. Posts: 18,037	there's millions of us that will never be able to see 3D how it should be seen. Cant we have a system whereby the 3d is in the tv screen (although it would need another new tv).

01-10-2009, 13:10	#13
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	My concern is that that 3DTV will show as degraded 2DTV quality when watched on non-3DTV equipment.

01-10-2009, 16:14	#14
Jarrak Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ilkeston Posts: 18,075	Quote: Originally Posted by gomezz My concern is that that 3DTV will show as degraded 2DTV quality when watched on non-3DTV equipment. Which is one reason why SKY will be offering a separate 3D service but channels that use the old fashioned colour coded system of whatever variety will ruin the viewing experience for everyone else. As a gimmick that fine but it's madness to have it as part of the regular schedule on a main channel, maybe the normal version on one channel and simulcast 3D on the other. Along a similar vein I wonder if the obsession with 3D will impact on the 2D viewing of movies because we've seen in the past the money shots of things zooming towards the viewer may work in 3D but are pathetic in 2D and serve little purpose.

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