If iPhone prices and tariffs don't go down...

TH14 · 02-10-2009, 10:39

Blackberry phones are great. I'd get an iphone but I just can't warm to texting on a touch screen and I have an Ipod Touch so kind of get a great phone in the blackberry with the ipod and apps and everything with the touch

PompeyBill · 02-10-2009, 12:13

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Originally Posted by Inkblot

I take your point about not needing to play lightsabres but having looked at my son's iPhone I'm more interested in whether other, less expensive phones are as user-friendly. For example he uses his iPhone to navigate whilst walking around London. Are other phones as easy to use if you're trying to find the nearest tube or whatever?

Conversely, he finds using the web browser awkward at times. Are other, cheaper, phones better equipped for doing things like ordering from Amazon or checking your bank balance? And are there good value tariffs available for these phones? I still think it's worth considering a separate iPhone Touch if the total price is a lot lower than an iPhone because I need at least 32GB for my music.

Maybe I just think too practically (no offence meant to anyone), but using your examples;

1) Tube map and London travel. I go up to London quite a bit so have great need for these, but I always have a handy paper map with me. Now, I could use this or, indeed, see what the alternatives offer. End of the day, is something like this something I am willing to pay a premium amount for considering I have easy alternatives?

2) Ordering from Amazon/bank account. I've got a laptop for doing this, and I can't see there being many occasions when I am out and about and think 'I must order from Amazon' and, for bank account details, I can always visit a nearby cashpoint and look if I'm not at home. I've survived this long without those facilities, I'm sure I can again.

I'm not anti-Apple or anything like that, I have a video I-Pod and swear by it, and I really wanted to get an IPhone, but the reality is that there are cheaper options out there, and less limiting ones too, and that's the route I'll probably go down, unless I can find an extremely good reason not to.

Inkblot · 02-10-2009, 14:25

Yeah, but much of the appeal of an iPhone is in its user-friendliness so I'm trying to get an idea of how alternatives compare. There's no point in my getting an incredibly powerful smartphone if I don't need it, whereas an iPhone would be fun and easy to use. If there are other phones that are as much fun and as easy to use but much less expensive, that sounds like a winning combination to me.

tellytart1 · 02-10-2009, 14:36

Do you really need 32GB for your music? If so, get the 3GS. Or use the smart playlist feature in iTunes to sync part of your library, and each time you sync the songs on your iPhone will change. You can still have non-smart playlists for the "must-haves" that you want to keep on the iPhone.

Inkblot · 02-10-2009, 14:59

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Originally Posted by tellytart1

Do you really need 32GB for your music?

I've got more than 32GB of (legally acquired) mp3s and AACs so even 32GB will mean I can't fit it all on.

tellytart1 · 02-10-2009, 15:38

I have over 100GB of music. I only have a 16GB iPhone, but with smart playlists I get plenty of music rotated through my iPhone each time I sync. (I tell it to give me 2GB of unrated music, 2GB of 4 or 5* rated, as well as my normal playlist of "Must Haves" and my playlist of choral pieces I'm learning for choir)

Are you _really_ saying you music have _all_ your music collection on your iPhone at all times?

Inkblot · 02-10-2009, 16:03

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Originally Posted by tellytart1

Are you _really_ saying you must have _all_ your music collection on your iPhone at all times?

No, I'm weighing up the pros and cons of different devices. Like I said, there's a big margin between the price of an iPod Touch and that of an iPhone with the half the capacity, so I'm looking at the options.

legends wear 7 · 02-10-2009, 19:28

VF Have the HTC Tattoo coming this month, go to a store and have a play when its releases, it'll be much cheaper than the iPhone and do all you want.

Its Android based so will be a nice device to use too, i prefer using android to iPhone

gk141054 · 03-10-2009, 12:14

IMHO the T-Mobile Pulse will be far superior to the HTC Tattoo...

Available on PAYG for £180.

I'm yet to have a play on one but the specs look good.

legends wear 7 · 03-10-2009, 12:36

Having never seen how Huwawi customise Android i would not like to put a view on it, but i can say that HTC Sense on Android is brilliant.

did find this on the net, which leads me to belive the tatto will be a nicer phone to use.

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At first glance the T-Mobile doesn't wow like the HTC Hero does from the interface or design. It isn't pushing social networking features in quite the same way, but it does offer you a great deal if flexibility through the Canvas homepage, even if it does seem a little linear compared to the HTC Sense UI.

Add to that Pulse is android 1.5 Tattoo will be 1.6 (dunno what the difference is though

gk141054 · 03-10-2009, 13:17

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Originally Posted by legends wear 7

Having never seen how Huwawi customise Android i would not like to put a view on it, but i can say that HTC Sense on Android is brilliant.

did find this on the net, which leads me to belive the tatto will be a nicer phone to use.

Add to that Pulse is android 1.5 Tattoo will be 1.6 (dunno what the difference is though

I dunno either mate...
don't think you can really compare the Pulse and the Hero though, pulse is a budget android handset... Hero certainly not.

yaruar · 03-10-2009, 14:19

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Originally Posted by gk141054

I dunno either mate...
don't think you can really compare the Pulse and the Hero though, pulse is a budget android handset... Hero certainly not.

1.5 to 1.6 is just a software update, all android phones will be 1.6 (dougnut) soon. Main feature changes are to do with video capture, redoing the marketplace interface and some usefull stuff such as finally adding built in vpn support and extended wireless wpa added.

legends wear 7 · 03-10-2009, 14:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by gk141054

I dunno either mate...
don't think you can really compare the Pulse and the Hero though, pulse is a budget android handset... Hero certainly not.

I was not comparing pulse with hero per se, but tattoo to the best of my knowledge uses the senses UI same as hero. Which is what i was trying to suggest leads me to believe tattoo will be better than pulse.

02-10-2009, 10:39	#26
TH14 Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,543	Blackberry phones are great. I'd get an iphone but I just can't warm to texting on a touch screen and I have an Ipod Touch so kind of get a great phone in the blackberry with the ipod and apps and everything with the touch

02-10-2009, 12:13	#27
PompeyBill Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,590	Quote: Originally Posted by Inkblot I take your point about not needing to play lightsabres but having looked at my son's iPhone I'm more interested in whether other, less expensive phones are as user-friendly. For example he uses his iPhone to navigate whilst walking around London. Are other phones as easy to use if you're trying to find the nearest tube or whatever? Conversely, he finds using the web browser awkward at times. Are other, cheaper, phones better equipped for doing things like ordering from Amazon or checking your bank balance? And are there good value tariffs available for these phones? I still think it's worth considering a separate iPhone Touch if the total price is a lot lower than an iPhone because I need at least 32GB for my music. Maybe I just think too practically (no offence meant to anyone), but using your examples; 1) Tube map and London travel. I go up to London quite a bit so have great need for these, but I always have a handy paper map with me. Now, I could use this or, indeed, see what the alternatives offer. End of the day, is something like this something I am willing to pay a premium amount for considering I have easy alternatives? 2) Ordering from Amazon/bank account. I've got a laptop for doing this, and I can't see there being many occasions when I am out and about and think 'I must order from Amazon' and, for bank account details, I can always visit a nearby cashpoint and look if I'm not at home. I've survived this long without those facilities, I'm sure I can again. I'm not anti-Apple or anything like that, I have a video I-Pod and swear by it, and I really wanted to get an IPhone, but the reality is that there are cheaper options out there, and less limiting ones too, and that's the route I'll probably go down, unless I can find an extremely good reason not to.

02-10-2009, 14:25	#28
Inkblot Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: West London Posts: 24,316	Yeah, but much of the appeal of an iPhone is in its user-friendliness so I'm trying to get an idea of how alternatives compare. There's no point in my getting an incredibly powerful smartphone if I don't need it, whereas an iPhone would be fun and easy to use. If there are other phones that are as much fun and as easy to use but much less expensive, that sounds like a winning combination to me.

02-10-2009, 14:36	#29
tellytart1 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,638	Do you really need 32GB for your music? If so, get the 3GS. Or use the smart playlist feature in iTunes to sync part of your library, and each time you sync the songs on your iPhone will change. You can still have non-smart playlists for the "must-haves" that you want to keep on the iPhone.

02-10-2009, 14:59	#30
Inkblot Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: West London Posts: 24,316	Quote: Originally Posted by tellytart1 Do you really need 32GB for your music? I've got more than 32GB of (legally acquired) mp3s and AACs so even 32GB will mean I can't fit it all on.

02-10-2009, 15:38	#31
tellytart1 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,638	I have over 100GB of music. I only have a 16GB iPhone, but with smart playlists I get plenty of music rotated through my iPhone each time I sync. (I tell it to give me 2GB of unrated music, 2GB of 4 or 5* rated, as well as my normal playlist of "Must Haves" and my playlist of choral pieces I'm learning for choir) Are you _really_ saying you music have _all_ your music collection on your iPhone at all times?

02-10-2009, 16:03	#32
Inkblot Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: West London Posts: 24,316	Quote: Originally Posted by tellytart1 Are you _really_ saying you must have _all_ your music collection on your iPhone at all times? No, I'm weighing up the pros and cons of different devices. Like I said, there's a big margin between the price of an iPod Touch and that of an iPhone with the half the capacity, so I'm looking at the options.

02-10-2009, 19:28	#33
legends wear 7 Guest Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,070	VF Have the HTC Tattoo coming this month, go to a store and have a play when its releases, it'll be much cheaper than the iPhone and do all you want. Its Android based so will be a nice device to use too, i prefer using android to iPhone

03-10-2009, 12:14	#34
gk141054 Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 107	IMHO the T-Mobile Pulse will be far superior to the HTC Tattoo... Available on PAYG for £180. I'm yet to have a play on one but the specs look good.

03-10-2009, 12:36	#35
legends wear 7 Guest Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,070	Having never seen how Huwawi customise Android i would not like to put a view on it, but i can say that HTC Sense on Android is brilliant. did find this on the net, which leads me to belive the tatto will be a nicer phone to use. Quote: At first glance the T-Mobile doesn't wow like the HTC Hero does from the interface or design. It isn't pushing social networking features in quite the same way, but it does offer you a great deal if flexibility through the Canvas homepage, even if it does seem a little linear compared to the HTC Sense UI. Add to that Pulse is android 1.5 Tattoo will be 1.6 (dunno what the difference is though

03-10-2009, 13:17	#36
gk141054 Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 107	Quote: Originally Posted by legends wear 7 Having never seen how Huwawi customise Android i would not like to put a view on it, but i can say that HTC Sense on Android is brilliant. did find this on the net, which leads me to belive the tatto will be a nicer phone to use. Add to that Pulse is android 1.5 Tattoo will be 1.6 (dunno what the difference is though I dunno either mate... don't think you can really compare the Pulse and the Hero though, pulse is a budget android handset... Hero certainly not.

03-10-2009, 14:19	#37
yaruar Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: london Posts: 660	Quote: Originally Posted by gk141054 I dunno either mate... don't think you can really compare the Pulse and the Hero though, pulse is a budget android handset... Hero certainly not. 1.5 to 1.6 is just a software update, all android phones will be 1.6 (dougnut) soon. Main feature changes are to do with video capture, redoing the marketplace interface and some usefull stuff such as finally adding built in vpn support and extended wireless wpa added.

03-10-2009, 14:30	#38
legends wear 7 Guest Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,070	Quote: Originally Posted by gk141054 I dunno either mate... don't think you can really compare the Pulse and the Hero though, pulse is a budget android handset... Hero certainly not. I was not comparing pulse with hero per se, but tattoo to the best of my knowledge uses the senses UI same as hero. Which is what i was trying to suggest leads me to believe tattoo will be better than pulse.

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