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Strictly Come Dancing...'it takes two'..chat thread.. (Part 6)
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tootsieroll
05-10-2009
I thought Claudia Winkleman was hilarious tonight saying about feeling she should leave Ali and Brian to themselves only she can't. Love her interviewing technique, subtly pointing out the obvious.
beee
05-10-2009
Brian definitely seemed to take Claud's comments in better humour than he took Len's over the weekend, I thought he was going to snap in the Tesspit. Mind you, Claudia could hardly ignore the body language between Ali and Brian tonight; I know he had his hands clasped together, but Ali was sitting so close she may as well have been in his lap!

Something very strange is happening to me this year - I'm warming to Brendan
samitza
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by beee:
“Brian definitely seemed to take Claud's comments in better humour than he took Len's over the weekend, I thought he was going to snap in the Tesspit. Mind you, Claudia could hardly ignore the body language between Ali and Brian tonight; I know he had his hands clasped together, but Ali was sitting so close she may as well have been in his lap!

Something very strange is happening to me this year - I'm warming to Brendan ”

Same! I never really liked him before but I think the partnership of him and Jo is lovely, they really seem to get on well together. I didn't expect to warm to Jo either but I have.
tootsieroll
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by samitza:
“Same! I never really liked him before but I think the partnership of him and Jo is lovely, they really seem to get on well together. I didn't expect to warm to Jo either but I have.”

Totally agree. Ali and Brian were sizzling, but Jo and Brendan were pretty warm too, in a different sort of way.
Daisy_M
05-10-2009
ITT is SO good this year. Claudia is playing a blinder.

Liked the piece on the runners. Agree that it's a great job but really hard work!!

I didn't sense any warm and fuzzy feelings between Rav & Aliona but it wasn't completely cold either. I was neutral on him so I'm not bothered that he's gone really.

I'm loving Craig this series. He's very funny (loved the comment about him being the fashion expert now).

Jo and Brendan are very sweet together and I really like Ali and Brian.

All good.
samitza
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by tootsieroll:
“Totally agree. Ali and Brian were sizzling, but Jo and Brendan were pretty warm too, in a different sort of way.”

Yeah, you can tell that Ali and Brian are definately more than just friends, whereas Brendan and Jo are clearly very close, but in a friendly way. Brendan seems really protective of Jo, which I find really sweet and unusual for him.
beee
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by samitza:
“Same! I never really liked him before but I think the partnership of him and Jo is lovely, they really seem to get on well together. I didn't expect to warm to Jo either but I have.”

Snap. It's like I've stepped into an alternate Strictly universe where I love Vincent, dislike Anton and find Brucie's jokes funny. Ricky Groves has even started growing the tell-tale evil twin goatee...
Abbasolutely 40
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by beee:
“Brian definitely seemed to take Claud's comments in better humour than he took Len's over the weekend, I thought he was going to snap in the Tesspit. Mind you, Claudia could hardly ignore the body language between Ali and Brian tonight; I know he had his hands clasped together, but Ali was sitting so close she may as well have been in his lap!

Something very strange is happening to me this year - I'm warming to Brendan ”

I noticed Brians clasped hands, was he afraid if he left them to thier own devices would they stray !!
I thougth they were lovely together and Yes, Alli was very close ,.
capricorn_night
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by samitza:
“Same! I never really liked him before but I think the partnership of him and Jo is lovely, they really seem to get on well together. I didn't expect to warm to Jo either but I have.”

I'm exactly the same I thought Jo would be annoying but I've really warmed to her, and I like how protective Brendan is of her.
Karen1974
05-10-2009
Craig's outfit was the best thing on ITT tonight, followed by a worried looking James at the sight of Vincent clearly enjoying being sprayed with fake tan.
BuddyBontheNet
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“I fancied Niles. ”

As the show went on I think Niles developed into the kind of man many women dream - someone who adores you and all your faults

I watched R&A's dance again and I think part of the problem is when they were in hold they danced too far apart. In fact, I've never seen a couple on Strictly dance so far apart ever! If they had worked more on their hold then Aliona could have led Rav more (I know it is supposed to be the other way around, but this is Strictly!) and maybe he could have used her to get back on the beat when he slipped up. Lilia said something similar last week about Craig needing to listen more to Flavia meaning listen to her body and feel the dance - that's what Rav needed to do, but was too far away to even try!

I also think that there may have been lots of QS steps in the dance, but they were badly executed and imho this is a prime example of when a couple should have kept it simple, but done well. After watching it back again I still think the routine was just far too hard - I'd love to see a pro couple get that huge leap right. The music meant every little mistake was highlighted.

I'm not sure Aliona knows yet how to get a Strictly celeb around the dance floor and through a routine! I hope she gets another try, but I also hope she isn't walking away from this competition thinking the judges were wrong and no one could have done any better with Rav because it just isn't true.
zankoku87
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“As the show went on I think Niles developed into the kind of man many women dream - someone who adores you and all your faults

I watched R&A's dance again and I think part of the problem is when they were in hold they danced too far apart. In fact, I've never seen a couple on Strictly dance so far apart ever! If they had worked more on their hold then Aliona could have led Rav more (I know it is supposed to be the other way around, but this is Strictly!) and maybe he could have used her to get back on the beat when he slipped up. Lilia said something similar last week about Craig needing to listen more to Flavia meaning listen to her body and feel the dance - that's what Rav needed to do, but was too far away to even try!

I also think that there may have been lots of QS steps in the dance, but they were badly executed and imho this is a prime example of when a couple should have kept it simple, but done well. After watching it back again I still think the routine was just far too hard - I'd love to see a pro couple get that huge leap right. The music meant every little mistake was highlighted.

I'm not sure Aliona knows yet how to get a Strictly celeb around the dance floor and through a routine! I hope she gets another try, but I also hope she isn't walking away from this competition thinking the judges were wrong and no one could have done any better with Rav because it just isn't true.”

Evenin' Buddy!

I agree - the gapping was the most obvious problem with the Ravioli quickstep. The thing is, his gapping was bad in the tango too, so I didn't see as much of an improvement as I would have liked on that front.
BuddyBontheNet
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“Evenin' Buddy!

I agree - the gapping was the most obvious problem with the Ravioli quickstep. The thing is, his gapping was bad in the tango too, so I didn't see as much of an improvement as I would have liked on that front.”

Hiya! Good show wasn't it?
zankoku87
05-10-2009
Am starting to get very annoyed with these invisible posts. Please ignore me.
zankoku87
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Hiya! Good show wasn't it?”

Yeah. I liked just being able to enjoy Strictly and ignore all this furore going on around it!
BuddyBontheNet
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“Yeah. I liked just being able to enjoy Strictly and ignore all this furore going on around it! ”

I don't understand why the Mods haven't shut down the thread.


I loved the clips at the end of tonight showing everyone laughing - brilliant!
zankoku87
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I don't understand why the Mods haven't shut down the thread.


I loved the clips at the end of tonight showing everyone laughing - brilliant!”

I imagine because in between some of the extreme reactions (on both side of the spectrum), there's been a bit of debate. Sigh. I wish we were allowed to either know exactly what happened or just not know at all...

Yeah. I do wonder if it was meant to be a big middle finger to the people who broke the story... but it was a nice change of pace!
BuddyBontheNet
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“I imagine because in between some of the extreme reactions (on both side of the spectrum), there's been a bit of debate. Sigh. I wish we were allowed to either know exactly what happened or just not know at all...

Yeah. I do wonder if it was meant to be a big middle finger to the people who broke the story... but it was a nice change of pace! ”

I never thought of that. ITT usually does something like this every year and I guess this was perfect timing. Do you think it was brought forward deliberately?

It was the first time this series I'd seen Flavia having a really good laugh - I was a bit worried about her and Craig!
zankoku87
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I never thought of that. ITT usually does something like this every year and I guess this was perfect timing. Do you think it was brought forward deliberately?

It was the first time this series I'd seen Flavia having a really good laugh - I was a bit worried about her and Craig!”

Nah, I'm just a bit of a cynic.

I like Craig. He's from where I'm from, so I feel I really should support him... but I'm afraid it's Flavia I have a problem with. Much less so this year than in the past, though, I have to say - perhaps she's growing on me?
Veri
05-10-2009
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“She meant that it had the most basic steps, i.e. the least complicated choreography.

I also don't think she was saying Rav didn't have any. She said "I did, but if I missed any strengths you should tell me." I took that to mean that she felt she was choreographing to his strenths (she wasn't specific on what they were), but if people thought Rav had different strengths that she didn't pick up then they should tell her what they were.”

That's how I understood it as well.
Dancing cake
06-10-2009
[quote=BuddyBontheNet;35869351]As the show went on I think Niles developed into the kind of man many women dream - someone who adores you and all your faults


Exactly why I'll never give up on my Matt Cutler fantasy - he will of course adore me with all my faults, including the fact that I'm a woman
MegaDancer
06-10-2009
Originally Posted by Cape73Town:
“I loved Niles Crane ”

Every time I see Brian, for some reason I think of the episode when Niles & Daphne Tangoed and then women came up and gave him their phone numbers!
blueabu
06-10-2009
Only thing wrong with ITT is that it is too short!
jtnorth
06-10-2009
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“She meant that it had the most basic steps, i.e. the least complicated choreography.

I also don't think she was saying Rav didn't have any. She said "I did, but if I missed any strengths you should tell me." I took that to mean that she felt she was choreographing to his strenths (she wasn't specific on what they were), but if people thought Rav had different strengths that she didn't pick up then they should tell her what they were.”

OK, thanks. I wasn't sure I had understood her. I think I get confused by the meaning of 'basic' - in that sense it means easy, but sometimes it seems to be used to mean 'the real thing'. I think they were discussing Anton and Laila's tango, they were talking about it having lots of 'basic' as if that meant it was a proper tango and no 'messing about', not as if it was easy. But I'm not a dancer perhaps I'm just not always understanding the comments.
Tissy
06-10-2009
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“OK, thanks. I wasn't sure I had understood her. I think I get confused by the meaning of 'basic' - in that sense it means easy, but sometimes it seems to be used to mean 'the real thing'. I think they were discussing Anton and Laila's tango, they were talking about it having lots of 'basic' as if that meant it was a proper tango and no 'messing about', not as if it was easy. But I'm not a dancer perhaps I'm just not always understanding the comments.”

`Basic` does get confusing to me too !

On SCD because they need to wow the audience some pros go for more complicated showy dances and sometimes ignore the basic steps of the routine. Suppose it also depends how good the celeb is to start with.
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