My understanding of your post was that it put your spin/interpretation on the 'plain facts' of what people 'actually said'. The 'plain facts' were not reported in isolation of your interpretation. Your OP, quotes notwithstanding, was very much your opinion.

I remain in disagreement with your OP in its entirety, and with your subsequent posts on the subject. Unless you bring something new to this particular discussion, I have said all I have to say on this point, and bid you good night.

Who said the facts were reported in isolation? Not me.

It's up to you if you want to disagree with facts, of course, but anyone can watch the show and see that people did in fact say what I said they did.

Since there seems to be so much confusion about this, I will underline the facts:

Also, whenever I said a card was played, the person did not just say the phrase I quoted. They were making the sort of point that is often given the "card" label here.

STEADY!!

oh ok then - I'll have James in a firefighter/RAF uniform thank you very much

Me too!

Another must for me would be Oklahoma - I too loved Howard Keel's voice but Gordon Macrae just edged it with his dimples and touch of cheekiness.
Although Carousel had the same leads, it's pushed into a very respectable 3rd.

Anyone see the biopics Love Me Or Leave Me and With A Song In My Heart?
(Doris Day as Ruth Etting and Susan Hayward as Jane Froman)
Maybe not practical for theme nights but the songs are timeless and DD had great showdances as per the Zeigfeld Follies.
(The gowns were FAB-U-LOUS!)

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ooh! off topic I know, and apologies!

but Ignazio, this was one of my favourite films as a little girl and I loved this song!

am off to see if I can find the film to buy, to relive this lovely memory!

THANK YOU!

Rumours abound that Hugh Jackman is doing a remake of "Carousel" .... having seen him in Oklahoma!, I'm buying the bulk popcorn well in advance

Ooohhhhh

I'm so there.

I don't understand what you mean? I don't count celebs who have taken part in the show as guests on ITT.


Thanks for that. Can you remember if anything was said about why she's been invited on the show?


You lucky thing! I would love to have seen him singing live - was he as good as they say?

Carousel is such a sad story - I'm not sure I'd go and see it.

Alesha was on because she was a huge fan of the show according to Claudia (plus she also had a single to promote!)

I never had much time for Marian Keyes before but I loved her last night. I think I cast scorn upon her for being a chick-lit author but she was great.

I apologise for having been so narrow-minded. Maybe one day I'll like Alesha even....

Thanks! I wonder if that was just before she was dropped by her record label?

Alesha. A bigger international artiste than Beyonce. Allegedly.

LOL! She does write chick lit, but some of her writing has a bit of an edge to it - 'Rachel's Holiday' is actually based in a drug rehab centre. Marian is also brilliant at writing about family relationships.

That's the new Alesha though and Bruce said the 'British Beyonce' not 'bigger than Beyonce'!

Apologies, BB. I was exaggerating - as usual.

What characteristics define the new Alesha, please?

I love Carousel!!!! I cry at that one too!!

And South Pacific

I would love a SCD where they do songs from the musicals. It would be great

Here's me thinking you were just a bit deaf!

What characteristics define the new Alesha? Oooh! I'm not sure because I'd barely heard of her before she did SCD! Now I'd say she is a successful, confident and compassionate young woman who has a great attitude to life!

Thanks, BB.
I had never heard of her before Series 5. Like rather a lot of people, I imagine.
Oh, and I am slightly deaf.

It's not her fault she annoys the hell out of me with her speaking and laughing and existing and stuff.

I love Brigadoon!

I was in a production of it when I was 16. When I met Papaboogie the song that was stuck in my mind was 'Almost Like Being in Love.'

Ignazio - we are destined to have opposite opinions on most things!

We are united in our respect for people having other opinions though!

My opinions on the dancers do change occasionally - but once I get a 'gut feeling' I find it hard to shake off. I do try to differentiate between my personal feelings and whether someone is a good dancer.

Me too! (Notice I am rising above your lovely words about Alesha! )


You old romantic you! When I met MrB I thought he was too short to go out with LOL! 25 years later he's still short, but I love him!

Me too - imagine if John Barnes had danced to You'll never walk alone (from Carousel) - now that would have been a bit special.

That is so romantic! It is such a lovely song and would be ideal for the AS. I am dreading some of the dances tonight as the song choices seem to be bizarre


There wouldn't have been a dry eye in the house!

I'm late to the discussion but I just wanted to say, on the AS, I was watching a Fred and Ginger movie the other day on BBC4 and when they danced they did very slight lifts but it was all about giving the impression of her floating about in his arms - it was as if her skips were so light her feet had just left the floor for a second. It wasn't about how high he could lift. I think on Strictly it often looks more like a strength test or gymnastics - they look painful rather than graceful, and they often break up the dance - bit of dancing; lift; bit of dancing; lift. Obviously I'm not criticising the celebs for not being Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers, I just think too much is made of the lifts, as if it was a circus act rather than a dance. I think Natalie and Vincent have made a very sensible decision, but it won't make it easy for them to score highly.

I thought Ricky's comments about Alesha were odd. I wonder if it was just for this week, because of the 10, or if they'll keep up the idea that Ricky is dancing 'for Alesha'. Perhaps that's a new story for him, that he's the male equivalent of Alesha when she won. People have said he needs a 'story'.

I remember when Ray Quinn did that on X-factor - I wasn't a fan of his but it was so emotional and he was crying at the end and I felt quite moved!