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Alex Burke's Album Tracklisting
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musicdude
03-10-2009
1. "Bad Boys" (featuring Flo Rida)
Written by Larry Summerville Jr, Busbee, L. Evans, A. James Produced by The Phantom Boyz

2. "Good Night Good Morning" (featuring Ne-Yo)
Written by Shaffer Chimere Smith
Produced by Stargate

3. "The Silence"
Unknown on writer and producer

4. "All Night Long"
Written by Nadir Khayat
Produced by RedOne

5. "Bury Me (6 Feet Under)"
Produced by Element
Writer unknown

6. "Broken Heels"
Written by Nadir Khayat
Produced by RedOne

7. "Dumb"
Written by Nadir Khayat
Produced by RedOne

8. "Overcome"
Written by Ryan Tedder
Produced by Ryan Tedder

9. "Gotta Go"
Writer unknown
Produced by The Corner Boyz

10. "You Broke My Heart"
Written by Pixie Lott
Producer unknown

11. "Nothing But the Girl"
Writer unknown
Produced by Freemasons

12. "They Don't Know"
Writer and producer unknown

13. "Hallelujah"
Written by Leonard Cohen
Produced by Simon Cowell

With tracks from Red One, Ryan Tedder and our very own Pixie as well as a duet with Ne yo, this album should be big.
kutox
03-10-2009
well done to the songwriters, producers etc.
chuck_wippl
03-10-2009
Yes. Well done to everyone who wrote and produced ALL of "her" songs.
shackfan
03-10-2009
Surely you can only say well done once you have heard the songs
Anika Hanson
03-10-2009
Originally Posted by chuck_wippl:
“Yes. Well done to everyone who wrote and produced ALL of "her" songs.”

Should we make fun of any artist that doesnt write their own songs.

Whitney Houston doesnt write her own material but we dont make fun of her, I couldnt care whether she wrote the songs or not.

I thoguht nothing but the girl would be by the freemasons from the clip.
Sam - Fan
03-10-2009
sounds crap
PrincessPerfect
03-10-2009
Originally Posted by Sam - Fan:
“sounds crap”

You seem to be a very negative person, not only from this post but all of your postings.
pharoah
03-10-2009
I thought 'The Silence' was a Ryan Tedder song as well? Definitely sounds like one
shackfan
03-10-2009
Originally Posted by chuck_wippl:
“Yes. Well done to everyone who wrote and produced ALL of "her" songs.”

ERR, you could say the same about Elvis and Sinatra. Pointless comment really.
pharoah
03-10-2009
Originally Posted by shackfan:
“ERR, you could say the same about Elvis and Sinatra. Pointless comment really.”

And many others. Makes me laugh how people think an artist should write, sing and produce all their songs when not many actually do
chuck_wippl
03-10-2009
Please do not compare this Burke thing to Whitney, Elvis or Sinatra.

And no, you're right, not many artists do write, sing and produce their songs, and that pees me off too! I just think that with all the attention and praise her minions are giving her (and other artists like her), she could've at least co-wrote ONE song. But no :sleep:

Besides, I'm probably just being mean because I think she (and her song/s) are rubbish and she's also really irritating in interviews.
kutox
04-10-2009
it's not the fact that she doesn't write or produce her own songs - we could talk all day about artists who don't - but it's the fact that the whole purpose of Alex's music career existing is to sell records for someone else.
Anika Hanson
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by kutox:
“it's not the fact that she doesn't write or produce her own songs - we could talk all day about artists who don't - but it's the fact that the whole purpose of Alex's music career existing is to sell records for someone else.”

Not every artist is fortunate enough to get a deal in the traditional way and on their own terms. Obviously people like Alexandra and Leona had tried to get records deals in the the normal way and had no luck. So they needed shows like the x-factor, otherwise they would still be un-signed.

At this point in time this is her best option at fulfiling her dream so Im sure she is greatful. Prehaps later on in her career she will be able to have more creative imput.
omgwtfbbq
04-10-2009
Some people act like Alexandra has stolen these songs or something just because she didn't write or produce them. But the fact is, these writers and producers gave their songs to her because they wanted to. At the end of the day, they still get credited for their work and will make even more money out of the songs than Alexandra will. Alexandra gets to have songs that she likes for her album and the writers and producers get some money - everyone wins. So I don't get the faux outrage and complaints about the matter.

Originally Posted by kutox:
“but it's the fact that the whole purpose of Alex's music career existing is to sell records for someone else.”

That applies to pretty much anyone in the industry though, doesn't it? The music industry is a business, and people want to make money. They're only interested in acts who are popular and will sell records and concert tickets, enough to make them a profit. You think a record label will piss money up the wall just so someone who writes, produces and performs all of their own music can get a deserved break, even if no-one actually buys their music or pays to see them live? In general, artists will only have creative input if their bosses are confident that they will still make them a profit. As Anika says, maybe Alexandra will gain more creative control in the future if she proves to be popular enough with music-buyers.
kutox
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by omgwtfbbq:
“Some people act like Alexandra has stolen these songs or something just because she didn't write or produce them. But the fact is, these writers and producers gave their songs to her because they wanted to. At the end of the day, they still get credited for their work and will make even more money out of the songs than Alexandra will. Alexandra gets to have songs that she likes for her album and the writers and producers get some money - everyone wins. So I don't get the faux outrage and complaints about the matter.



That applies to pretty much anyone in the industry though, doesn't it? The music industry is a business, and people want to make money. They're only interested in acts who are popular and will sell records and concert tickets, enough to make them a profit. You think a record label will piss money up the wall just so someone who writes, produces and performs all of their own music can get a deserved break, even if no-one actually buys their music or pays to see them live? In general, artists will only have creative input if their bosses are confident that they will still make them a profit. As Anika says, maybe Alexandra will gain more creative control in the future if she proves to be popular enough with music-buyers.”

or in other words - X Factor sheep.
omgwtfbbq
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by kutox:
“or in other words - X Factor sheep.”

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. You can call them sheep if you want, if that makes you feel a little better about someone you don't like being successful, but no-one's going to buy any of Alexandra's music if they don't like her, and if they do like her then they will, of their own free will.
kutox
04-10-2009
it's not that, i just think the x factor puppets have it incredibly easy - ready-made for them. thanks to all the show's crazy hype, the millions of viewers, the guaranteed xmas no.1 (if they win), the writers and producers they get to work with, the x factor 'comeback' performances they get. it's an easy route to success. Leona has been back on the show to perform new singles each of the 2 years since she won the show, and will almost certainly get another one this year - you can't honestly say that's just coincidence - Cowell knows he will maximize sales by doing that. and although JLS didn't win the show, they have had the most insane amount of promotion - on top of the fame they got from being on the show in the first place. would they be having the success they are now if they weren't on x factor? i very much doubt that. packaged, manufactured, no individuality.

anyway, there's no need to bite my head off, i'm just saying what i think, i know it won't change anything. this is just a healthy debate after all.
omgwtfbbq
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by kutox:
“it's not that, i just think the x factor puppets have it incredibly easy - ready-made for them. thanks to all the show's crazy hype, the millions of viewers, the guaranteed xmas no.1 (if they win), the writers and producers they get to work with, the x factor 'comeback' performances they get. it's an easy route to success. Leona has been back on the show to perform new singles each of the 2 years since she won the show, and will almost certainly get another one this year - you can't honestly say that's just coincidence - Cowell knows he will maximize sales by doing that. and although JLS didn't win the show, they have had the most insane amount of promotion - on top of the fame they got from being on the show in the first place. would they be having the success they are now if they weren't on x factor? i very much doubt that. packaged, manufactured, no individuality.

anyway, there's no need to bite my head off, i'm just saying what i think, i know it won't change anything. this is just a healthy debate after all.”

I'm sorry if you think I'm biting your head off - I'm not and I like a healthy debate too.

I do agree that the X Factor is an easier way of getting a breakthrough than the usual way of going round pubs and clubs, building a network of connections and just hoping that you're lucky enough to get signed. But I don't think the X Factor is that easy, and I think there are disadvantages with being immediately propelled into the spotlight in a matter of weeks as well as advantages - because it means you can't afford to make any mistakes early in your career. You have to get the first single and first album just right, or else you've missed the boat and won't be able to regain what you had when you first won the show.

I don't begrudge anyone who's used the X Factor to find their breakthrough. That would be hypocritical of me anyway since I'm a Leona/Alexandra fan, but the X Factor can be a great platform and brings a lot of exposure if you're lucky enough. Plus, I know that Leona did try pubs, clubs, singing for bands, writing her own music etc, none of it worked out for her. The X Factor was going to be her final attempt to get a breakthrough. I don't know as much about Alexandra's music background before X Factor though. But they are obviously passionate about what they do, and I don't blame them for taking the opportunity.
musicdude
04-10-2009
Does it matter if this girl has written any of the songs? Britney, Rihanna, Leona, Whitney do not and yet are really successful. Although Leona has had some creative imput for her second album and even Britney has in the past. Get over it.
Alrightmate
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by pharoah:
“And many others. Makes me laugh how people think an artist should write, sing and produce all their songs when not many actually do”

Well they're not artists then are they. They're just hyped up karaoke singers who just perform to somebody else's tune.

Just because most people do something doesn't make it a good thing. If most performers were just corporate puppets then to me music how I see music as something imaginative and creative is dead.
However many still don't do what most do though. So I have respect for them being an 'artist' even if their material isn't exactly my cup of tea.
musicdude
04-10-2009
Some artists may not even be allowed to write their own songs or they may not even have the knack for it.

Back on topic, i can't wait to hear the Ne yo duet and a possible "Red One, Alexandra Burke.
Alrightmate
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by musicdude:
“Does it matter if this girl has written any of the songs? Britney, Rihanna, Leona, Whitney do not and yet are really successful. Although Leona has had some creative imput for her second album and even Britney has in the past. Get over it.”

Couldn't give a shit mate.
I couldn't care less how commercially successful somebody is. It bears no relevance to the value of the music.

The singers you list don't do anything for me creatively.
They're just corporate dolls who sing the usual tunes.
That list was probably the worst list you could have thought of if you were trying to convince me that ghost written music is somehow of better value than something that has actually been created by an individual mind not relying on commercial formulas.
musicdude
04-10-2009
For starters I aint your mate
And second, songwriting really aint an issue anymore.
Alrightmate
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by musicdude:
“For starters I aint your mate
And second, songwriting really aint an issue anymore.”

And that's what the real shame is.
Psychosis
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Well they're not artists then are they. They're just hyped up karaoke singers who just perform to somebody else's tune.

Just because most people do something doesn't make it a good thing. If most performers were just corporate puppets then to me music how I see music as something imaginative and creative is dead.
However many still don't do what most do though. So I have respect for them being an 'artist' even if their material isn't exactly my cup of tea.”

Singing is an art. The vocal interpretation of a song is an art. When considering who is an artist you should be considering their interpretation of the song and how good their vocals are, rather than picking at whether they wrote the song or nott. Or do you propose that we put all song writers out of a job and end their careers unless they have a good voice?

Every single artist with a recording contract is a money making tool for a business. Every single one.
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