Originally Posted by sobers:
“I agree, I wasn't there but the best way of knowing whether Anton meant it in a funny is by looking at white people's historical use of the word P A K I. The historic use of the P-word in the white community is not one of mixed meaning. It is not a history in which you called your Asian friends as if it meant little more than "Hey there, let's go grab a burger and fries at the Mickey D's." In the mouths and hearts of whites, the P word has only been used in the context of contempt, of presumed white superiority, of anti-Asian bigotry.
As such, for any white person to use it today is to force the Asian person hearing it to immediately wonder what's behind the comment, what the speaker's intent really is. That many whites won't be able to understand this SIMPLE point is testimony to nothing so much as your own sense of entitlement. In other words, you are not used to anyone telling you that you can't do something, or shouldn't, and as such take great offense when your own freedom, including the freedom to offend, is constrained.
To me, there is more support for Anton that against him because it’s just the desire of whites to maintain a certain form of white privilege: the privilege of saying whatever you want, whenever you want, and feeling as though your right to lecture others on their behavior should logically take precedence over controlling our own.
I think it's fairly safe to say that Anton would have thought twice about calling Rav a P**I as he did Laila. Whether Rav would have reacted violently is NOT the issue. How many people do you know would insult a person they know could destroy them ?
You really think I care about your respect ? Listen - Anton drew first blood and I said in my past post. His insults are NOT the issue. His insults take place against a backdrop of a RISE in facism across Europe, a RISE in the Aryan Brotherhood, a RISE in the Nazi Low Riders, a RISE in hatred against muslims, a RISE in the BNP, a RISE in the English Defence League and a RISE in discrimination and racism in housing, employment and the criminal justice sytem for people of colour. So given this FACT, Antons words take on a greater signifigance. And I really don't care whether or not you are tired of hearing about these things, but we are lot more tired of living in it.”
Can you also add a RISE in the incidents of black on white verbal and physical abuse as experienced by my white 15 year old neice at her South East London "Flagship Academy School".
Can't leave out the facts now can we. Many thanks.