Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Yeah, this poster definitely enjoys mind games”
“Yeah, this poster definitely enjoys mind games”
mind games? what mind games
what you on about?
Anton Du Beke in alleged Racist Slur (merged)
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Originally Posted by barkley:
“mind games? what mind games what you on about?”
“mind games? what mind games
what you on about?”
Derren Brown.
Surely, you know what I was talking about. I even mention Derren Brown in that post. So...
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Derren Brown.
Surely, you know what I was talking about. I even mention Derren Brown in that post. So...”
“Derren Brown.
Surely, you know what I was talking about. I even mention Derren Brown in that post. So...”
nope. i dont kno wat your on about. i post my opinion on an internet forum like evrybody else, u say i play mind games? wat are you on about?
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“This was what he said:
I've always been slim and active. I weigh 71kg and I'm 6ft tall. Diets are all nonsense: they don't work. Just don't get fat in the first place.
I've no time for fat people, they should all be shot.
What really upsets me is when I see fat kids. They've invariably got fat parents and they're the ones who are to blame. They need a good slap for having forced their bad ways on their kids.
When I was at school, there would be one fat kid in the class. Now there are hordes of them. I don't understand the psychology of fat people, nor the flip side of that, size zero.
I once taught dance to a girl with an eating disorder. I had to send her back to her mum because she had no stamina.
I don't mean to sound like a body fascist. In fact, it can be quite pleasant to have someone with a bit of wobbly flesh dancing with you.
I'm in two minds about whether very overweight people should be refused surgery unless they slim down. They have paid their taxes and they're entitled to treatment. But maybe they should be shoved to the back of the queue if someone comes in with a condition which isn't the result of eating themselves to 400st.
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He's obviously not referring to those who were just overweight, but obese. But being careless by using a generic term 'fat'. Not nice things to say for some who can't 'slim down' no matter what they tried, but I don't think he was referring to those people.”
“This was what he said:
I've always been slim and active. I weigh 71kg and I'm 6ft tall. Diets are all nonsense: they don't work. Just don't get fat in the first place.
I've no time for fat people, they should all be shot.
What really upsets me is when I see fat kids. They've invariably got fat parents and they're the ones who are to blame. They need a good slap for having forced their bad ways on their kids.
When I was at school, there would be one fat kid in the class. Now there are hordes of them. I don't understand the psychology of fat people, nor the flip side of that, size zero.
I once taught dance to a girl with an eating disorder. I had to send her back to her mum because she had no stamina.
I don't mean to sound like a body fascist. In fact, it can be quite pleasant to have someone with a bit of wobbly flesh dancing with you.
I'm in two minds about whether very overweight people should be refused surgery unless they slim down. They have paid their taxes and they're entitled to treatment. But maybe they should be shoved to the back of the queue if someone comes in with a condition which isn't the result of eating themselves to 400st.
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He's obviously not referring to those who were just overweight, but obese. But being careless by using a generic term 'fat'. Not nice things to say for some who can't 'slim down' no matter what they tried, but I don't think he was referring to those people.”
Not wanting to dredge this debate again, but whether he was referring to being overweight or obese, it's a pretty callous comment. People don't enjoy being obese- yes it is self-induced in the majority of cases, but I've seen plenty of people struggling with weight issues and the emotions behind it are more complex than just being too greedy to say no to a piece of cake. I'm sure he's got overweight fans, and I'm sure they felt fantastic reading what he thought of them.
In the same article he also dismissed the idea of depression with the comment "If things don't go fantastically, you just have to deal with it". That's medical advice is it?
I don't think he ever means to be offensive, but he seems to have a complete lack of sensitivity or tact. He could do with thinking a little bit about what it's like to be in all these situations he trivialises because he hasn't experienced them himself.
Originally Posted by barkley:
“nope. i dont kno wat your on about. i post my opinion on an internet forum like evrybody else, u say i play mind games? wat are you on about?”
“nope. i dont kno wat your on about. i post my opinion on an internet forum like evrybody else, u say i play mind games? wat are you on about?”
Okay I'll bite and humour you here.
You said earlier: "trouble is, the only thing he's really sorry about is being caught out."
I asked if you were a mind-reader, meaning, how do you know what you so categorically stated as such?
To which you didn't answer, so I said you liked 'mind games' like watching Derren Brown shows. And still now you are evading the question.
So I shall throw another proverbal bone in your direction: how did you know "the ONLY thing Anton was really sorry about was because he was being caught out"?
Answer that question, please. And stop playing the
game.
Originally Posted by katie_p:
“Not wanting to dredge this debate again, but whether he was referring to being overweight or obese, it's a pretty callous comment. People don't enjoy being obese- yes it is self-induced in the majority of cases, but I've seen plenty of people struggling with weight issues and the emotions behind it are more complex than just being too greedy to say no to a piece of cake. I'm sure he's got overweight fans, and I'm sure they felt fantastic reading what he thought of them.
In the same article he also dismissed the idea of depression with the comment "If things don't go fantastically, you just have to deal with it". That's medical advice is it?
I don't think he ever means to be offensive, but he seems to have a complete lack of sensitivity or tact. He could do with thinking a little bit about what it's like to be in all these situations he trivialises because he hasn't experienced them himself.”
“Not wanting to dredge this debate again, but whether he was referring to being overweight or obese, it's a pretty callous comment. People don't enjoy being obese- yes it is self-induced in the majority of cases, but I've seen plenty of people struggling with weight issues and the emotions behind it are more complex than just being too greedy to say no to a piece of cake. I'm sure he's got overweight fans, and I'm sure they felt fantastic reading what he thought of them.
In the same article he also dismissed the idea of depression with the comment "If things don't go fantastically, you just have to deal with it". That's medical advice is it?
I don't think he ever means to be offensive, but he seems to have a complete lack of sensitivity or tact. He could do with thinking a little bit about what it's like to be in all these situations he trivialises because he hasn't experienced them himself.”
Yes, he can be careless and callous at the same time. I don't really like him that much, never since I started watching SCD from series 4 onwards. But this public crucification is just as distastful as his P*** quip and equally dumb.
Originally Posted by barkley:
“nope. i dont kno wat your on about. i post my opinion on an internet forum like evrybody else, u say i play mind games? wat are you on about?”
“nope. i dont kno wat your on about. i post my opinion on an internet forum like evrybody else, u say i play mind games? wat are you on about?”
Dunno mate, but if you utilised a few more vowels and consonants, we might have a slightly better idea what you're on about.
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Yes, he can be careless and callous at the same time. I don't really like him that much, never since I started watching SCD from series 4 onwards. But this public crucification is just as distastful as his P*** quip and equally dumb.”
“Yes, he can be careless and callous at the same time. I don't really like him that much, never since I started watching SCD from series 4 onwards. But this public crucification is just as distastful as his P*** quip and equally dumb.”
This thread is a bit of an eye-opener I must say! But I still remain in favour of the BBC making a statement to the effect that Anton has received a warning. So far the response seems to be trivialising something which was actually somewhere between distasteful and offensive.
Maybe the whole experience will make Anton think before he speaks, but even better the BBC should send him on a diversity training course, which might teach him a bit of sensitivity and compassion for other people!
Originally Posted by Dr. Jan Itor:
“It didn't occur to me since I knew what the issue was, but it's a fair point to say they could have mentioned it. I don't think it's fair to say they bottled it though. It probably didn't seem necessary as it has not only been in the papers every day but on every news and discussion show this week. I can't think there were many watching tonight who didn't know what they were talking about.”
“It didn't occur to me since I knew what the issue was, but it's a fair point to say they could have mentioned it. I don't think it's fair to say they bottled it though. It probably didn't seem necessary as it has not only been in the papers every day but on every news and discussion show this week. I can't think there were many watching tonight who didn't know what they were talking about.”
In any dispute this is uncertainty and there was certainly uncertainty about this event, as to what actually happened. They had a golden opportunity to make it clear tonight what actually happened, and after Antons been on I still have no idea what happened and why he had to apologise.
Originally Posted by katie_p:
“This thread is a bit of an eye-opener I must say! But I still remain in favour of the BBC making a statement to the effect that Anton has received a warning. So far the response seems to be trivialising something which was actually somewhere between distasteful and offensive.
Maybe the whole experience will make Anton think before he speaks, but even better the BBC should send him on a diversity training course, which might teach him a bit of sensitivity and compassion for other people!”
“This thread is a bit of an eye-opener I must say! But I still remain in favour of the BBC making a statement to the effect that Anton has received a warning. So far the response seems to be trivialising something which was actually somewhere between distasteful and offensive.
Maybe the whole experience will make Anton think before he speaks, but even better the BBC should send him on a diversity training course, which might teach him a bit of sensitivity and compassion for other people!”
Believe me, when BBC does that we'll have an about turn from the media (the same media) cricitising BBC for wasting licence payers' money etc.
I really hope Anton will himself shut-up and dance from now on. I don't find him humourous at all and at times when he's crossed with the judges in the show, I actually quite dislike him.
Originally Posted by katie_p:
“Not wanting to dredge this debate again, but whether he was referring to being overweight or obese, it's a pretty callous comment. People don't enjoy being obese- yes it is self-induced in the majority of cases, but I've seen plenty of people struggling with weight issues and the emotions behind it are more complex than just being too greedy to say no to a piece of cake. I'm sure he's got overweight fans, and I'm sure they felt fantastic reading what he thought of them.
In the same article he also dismissed the idea of depression with the comment "If things don't go fantastically, you just have to deal with it". That's medical advice is it?
I don't think he ever means to be offensive, but he seems to have a complete lack of sensitivity or tact. He could do with thinking a little bit about what it's like to be in all these situations he trivialises because he hasn't experienced them himself.”
“Not wanting to dredge this debate again, but whether he was referring to being overweight or obese, it's a pretty callous comment. People don't enjoy being obese- yes it is self-induced in the majority of cases, but I've seen plenty of people struggling with weight issues and the emotions behind it are more complex than just being too greedy to say no to a piece of cake. I'm sure he's got overweight fans, and I'm sure they felt fantastic reading what he thought of them.
In the same article he also dismissed the idea of depression with the comment "If things don't go fantastically, you just have to deal with it". That's medical advice is it?
I don't think he ever means to be offensive, but he seems to have a complete lack of sensitivity or tact. He could do with thinking a little bit about what it's like to be in all these situations he trivialises because he hasn't experienced them himself.”
JESUS CHRIST, will you give it a rest.
He's quite entitled to his opinion. Obesity is killing this nation, making it the laughing stock of Europe, and after America the world.
I wish more people would tell it like it is, instead of skirting round it with pyscho babble and fudging the issue.
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“I really hope Anton will himself shut-up and dance from now on. I don't find him humourous at all and at times when he's crossed with the judges in the show, I actually quite dislike him.”
“I really hope Anton will himself shut-up and dance from now on. I don't find him humourous at all and at times when he's crossed with the judges in the show, I actually quite dislike him.”
Putting the whole race thing aside I agree with you .Anton is getting a bit to big for his boots and this year in particular his comments are a bit silly .
He is becoming a caricature of himself and can be a right daft prat at times
Originally Posted by fancynancy:
“Dunno mate, but if you utilised a few more vowels and consonants, we might have a slightly better idea what you're on about.”
“Dunno mate, but if you utilised a few more vowels and consonants, we might have a slightly better idea what you're on about.”
god, now weve got the grammar nazi chipping in.
Originally Posted by trunkster:
“JESUS CHRIST, will you give it a rest.
He's quite entitled to his opinion. Obesity is killing this nation, making it the laughing stock of Europe, and after America the world.
I wish more people would tell it like it is, instead of skirting round it with pyscho babble and fudging the issue.”
“JESUS CHRIST, will you give it a rest.
He's quite entitled to his opinion. Obesity is killing this nation, making it the laughing stock of Europe, and after America the world.
I wish more people would tell it like it is, instead of skirting round it with pyscho babble and fudging the issue.”
Oh dear, please don't swear.
hey mike tyson, you look like a ni$Łer. what's wrong? You look angry. now calm down mike. didn't you know, that it was humourous back in the day?
Originally Posted by trunkster:
“Swear?”
“Swear?
”
I mean using God's name in vain. Don't mean you cuss or anything.
Gosh what a lot of cross people Would anyone like me to hum an interlude of soothing music to calm things down a bit? *hmmmmmm hmmm hmmmmmmmmmm hm hmmm*
Oh, alright then *gets coat*
Would anyone like me to hum an interlude of soothing music to calm things down a bit? *hmmmmmm hmmm hmmmmmmmmmm hm hmmm*Oh, alright then *gets coat*
Originally Posted by rossyrahrah:
“Gosh what a lot of cross people Would anyone like me to hum an interlude of soothing music to calm things down a bit? *hmmmmmm hmmm hmmmmmmmmmm hm hmmm*
Oh, alright then *gets coat*”
“Gosh what a lot of cross people
Would anyone like me to hum an interlude of soothing music to calm things down a bit? *hmmmmmm hmmm hmmmmmmmmmm hm hmmm*Oh, alright then *gets coat*”
What melody are you humming to?
Originally Posted by barkley:
“god, now weve got the grammar nazi chipping in.”
“god, now weve got the grammar nazi chipping in.”
Get it right, cherub - I'm the txt spk nazi.
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“I mean using God's name in vain. Don't mean you cuss or anything.”
“I mean using God's name in vain. Don't mean you cuss or anything.
”
Ok, I'm an athiest...if that's allowed on here
Originally Posted by trunkster:
“Ok, I'm an athiest...if that's allowed on here”
“Ok, I'm an athiest...if that's allowed on here
”
Fine. I don't see how this should be turned into a religious debate. But *be respectful* is all I ask. Peace.
Originally Posted by fancynancy:
“Get it right, cherub - I'm the txt spk nazi.”
“Get it right, cherub - I'm the txt spk nazi.
”
whatever nazi u prefer to be i couldnt care less cherub
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“What melody are you humming to?”
“What melody are you humming to?
”
Lovely Frank Sinatra, believe one of the couples may be dancing together, (quite happily twould seem
), doing the foxtrot on Saturday
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