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Alesha sort out your grammar for goodness sake (Merged)
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aleshadixonNET
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“The way Alesha speaks in her private life is her own business but when she doing her job on SCD she is a role-model should speak half-decent English. I would hate it if my son or daughter picked up guttersnipe English from her thinking it was the norm.”

If you're worried about the education your children are picking up from TV then the last thing they should be watching is SCD. It's an entertainment show not 'GCSE Bitesize'.
Bubba Ritter
25-10-2009
As they do for Cheryl Cole with autotune, they should use some sort of autocorrect device for Alesha Doolittle.
Ignazio
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“It does matter - it matters a lot. Ms Dixon is a presenter on the BBC and the BBC is funded by our licence fee. So in effect we pay her salary. I agree with Mrs Harry. The way Alesha speaks in her private life is her own business but when she doing her job on SCD she is a role-model and should speak half-decent English. I would hate it if my son or daughter picked up guttersnipe English from her thinking it was the norm.”

If Alesha's normal speech is grammatically incorrect, then it would be virtually impossible for her to correct it on a weekly basis when appearing on SCD.

You're not the first to suggest that their offspring might pick up bad habits from her, but the programme is on for a mere 2 hours per week. Surely the correct English they hear from you the rest of the week carries more weight than the odd 'we was' on a Saturday night.
samiskim
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“If Alesha's normal speech is grammatically incorrect, then it would be virtually impossible for her to correct it on a weekly basis when appearing on SCD.

You're not the first to suggest that their offspring might pick up bad habits from her, but the programme is on for a mere 2 hours per week. Surely the correct English they hear from you the rest of the week carries more weight than the odd 'we was' on a Saturday night.”

It is not just the odd we was is it? My child speak very nicely thank you very much as do his friends but if Alesha wants to be a presenter then she should learn to speak a little better than she does already. She is a high profile celebrity and with that comes a certain responsibility. It is not her fault - it is the BBC's. So perhaps the title of this thread should be "BBC sort Alesha's grammar for goodness sake".
samiskim
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by aleshadixonNET:
“If you're worried about the education your children are picking up from TV then the last thing they should be watching is SCD. It's an entertainment show not 'GCSE Bitesize'.”

My son is over 21!
Ignazio
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“It is not just the odd we was is it? My child speak very nicely thank you very much as do his friends but if Alesha wants to be a presenter then she should learn to speak a little better than she does already. She is a high profile celebrity and with that comes a certain responsibility. It is not her fault - it is the BBC's. So perhaps the title of this thread should be "BBC sort Alesha's grammar for goodness sake".”

I didn't suggest otherwise, which is surely confirmation of my point that as a parent, your daily influence over your child will carry more weight than a Saturday night programme.
Ignazio
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“My son is over 21!”

So in what way would Alesha influence his grammar?
aleshadixonNET
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“My son is over 21!”

So, what's your issue? It's not YOUR child you are concerned over. What issue is it of yours if some child 200 miles north of you starts talking like Alesha? It just seems like an excuse to jump on the bandwagon of insulting Alesha.

The way someone speaks doesn't make them a good person. You could speak like the Queen and be a vile person.

If everyone started slagging off Bruno's accent and saying he shouldn't be on the show that would be discrimination. It's also discrimination to Alesha by saying she shouldn't be on the show because she 'cant speak properly'.

If people want to criticise Alesha's judging credentials, then fine. But to make spiteful comments because of the way she talks and because she blinks too much (yes, there is a thread on that) is BULLYING and SPITEFUL.
mr.bojangles
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“It is not just the odd we was is it? My child speak very nicely thank you very much as do his friends but if Alesha wants to be a presenter then she should learn to speak a little better than she does already. She is a high profile celebrity and with that comes a certain responsibility. It is not her fault - it is the BBC's. So perhaps the title of this thread should be "BBC sort Alesha's grammar for goodness sake".”

"My child speaks very nicely..." Ahem.

Sorry, but I would of well hated it if some kid had come on 'ere right, and be led astray by grammatical mistakes.
Emms
25-10-2009
Frankly I'd be more worried about the grammar and diction of most of the actual children's TV presenters having a detrimental effect on 'the youth of today' than I would about Alesha's. Most of them sound truly appalling!!

Yes, it is a bit irritating, but it doesn't spoil the show (or not for me) and it doesn't make me like Alesha any more or less than I previously did.
Yewtree
25-10-2009
I'm more worried about her Pat Butcher earrings and her love of bum action.
lotty27
25-10-2009
I must say I cringe whenever Alesha says 'was' instead of 'were'. It's just one of those things that sets my teeth on edge And I admit I used to think it made her sound a bit ... well ... thick But it doesn't spoil my viewing of SCD one iota

Now I know that Alesha isn't unintelligent. She's a bright girl from humble beginnings who has done very well for herself, it won't just be her good looks that have opened doors for her, she has to have some nous too. She must have seen/heard about these forums highlighting her grammar but I bet she's taking a stand and saying 'why should I change?' She'd probably see it as humiliating and giving in to her critics - and IMO she'd be right!

Is it the way that people speak where she comes from? If so it will be learned behaviour that will be very hard for her to change now. It would also stop any spontaneity in her critique as she'd very conscious of her wording etc.

Every region has their own accents which probably sound incomprehensible at times to other areas. Look at Cheryl Cole on the X-F. Some have trouble understanding her and that isn't broad Geordie by any means! I'd absolutely hate to go back to the days when everyone on TV spoke 'BBC' English. I like hearing regional accents and if Alesha saying 'was' instead of 'were' is down to where she comes from, I can certainly live with it
missfrankiecat
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by lotty27:
“I must say I cringe whenever Alesha says 'was' instead of 'were'. It's just one of those things that sets my teeth on edge And I admit I used to think it made her sound a bit ... well ... thick But it doesn't spoil my viewing of SCD one iota

Now I know that Alesha isn't unintelligent. She's a bright girl from humble beginnings who has done very well for herself, it won't just be her good looks that have opened doors for her, she has to have some nous too. She must have seen/heard about these forums highlighting her grammar but I bet she's taking a stand and saying 'why should I change?' She'd probably see it as humiliating and giving in to her critics - and IMO she'd be right!

Is it the way that people speak where she comes from? If so it will be learned behaviour that will be very hard for her to change now. It would also stop any spontaneity in her critique as she'd very conscious of her wording etc.

Every region has their own accents which probably sound incomprehensible at times to other areas. Look at Cheryl Cole on the X-F. Some have trouble understanding her and that isn't broad Geordie by any means! I'd absolutely hate to go back to the days when everyone on TV spoke 'BBC' English. I like hearing regional accents and if Alesha saying 'was' instead of 'were' is down to where she comes from, I can certainly live with it ”

There is nothing wrong with having a regional accent. That is an entirely different issue to spouting grammatical howlers. If I really believed Alesha's "You was fierce" etc was down to her lack of educational opportunities, I hope I would be forgiving. But frankly she is choosing to speak as she does. As many have observed, she is a reasonably intelligent and highly ambitious woman, who must be capable of making an effort to get basic verbs in order. The family members (Nan and Mum)seemed on ITT two years ago to speak reasonably correct English. All of which leads me to suspect that the 'gangsta' English she trots out is a choice, sadly condoned by the BBC in refusing to address the issue.
pickledgherkin
25-10-2009
I can't believe she is still transposing her was and were after all we have said.
sammyvine
25-10-2009
A bit late but is she still making the ''was'' and ''were'' mistakes? Havent really paid that much attention but im guessing she is still doing it by the way everyone keeps commenting?
oulandy
25-10-2009
She was at it again last night: It wasn't as bad as you was (sic) making out on the video.

I think it shows the arrogance of the woman herself and of the BBC, that there hasn't been any apparent effort to correct it in favour of standard English, or even any embarrassment about it, despite the criticism of it over several weeks. Quite why the BBC should condone such dumbing down is a bit of a puzzle.
Ignazio
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by pickledgherkin:
“I can't believe she is still transposing her was and were after all we have said.”

After all we have said - how very dare she!

I've been totally unaware that this thread is the Star Chamber, and her critics are also her inquisitors.
sammyvine
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by oulandy:
“She was at it again last night: It wasn't as bad as you was (sic) making out on the video.

I think it shows the arrogance of the woman herself and of the BBC, that there hasn't been any apparent effort to correct it in favour of standard English, or even any embarrassment about it, despite the criticism of it over several weeks. Quite why the BBC should condone such dumbing down is a bit of a puzzle.”

LOOL
Poor girl, im sure she isnt aware of it but i am just bermused that somebody isnt letting her no! She said in an interview that her and her manager go on digital spy and read what is being said so im actually flabbergasted. I think she has been mixing up her tenses so much she is soo used to it.
Ignazio
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by sammyvine:
“LOOL
Poor girl, im sure she isnt aware of it but i am just bermused that somebody isnt letting her no! She said in an interview that her and her manager go on digital spy and read what is being said so im actually flabbergasted. I think she has been mixing up her tenses so much she is soo used to it.”

Pot and kettle sammy - that post is not without spelling, punctuation and grammatical errors.
parthena
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Pot and kettle sammy - that post is not without spelling, punctuation and grammatical errors.”

That's irrelevant to the topic under discussion here. We're talking about a TV personality, appointed as a judge, who is deliberately stooping to "street talk".

parthena
Yewtree
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Pot and kettle sammy - that post is not without spelling, punctuation and grammatical errors.”

Sammy is not being paid a fortune by the BBC to say a few sentences.
Quizmike
25-10-2009
Why are we having a go at Alesha and not the other countless presenters who do not speak as if they have just left Eton?

Be interesting to know.

Plus, how many of you complaining actually come from London?
Ignazio
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by parthena:
“That's irrelevant to the topic under discussion here. We're talking about a TV personality, appointed as a judge, who is deliberately stooping to "street talk".

parthena”

Do you know that for a fact?
Quote:
“She said in an interview that her and her manager go on digital spy and read what is being said so im actually flabbergasted.”

Well if her grammar improved as a result of reading this thread, I would be flabbergasted!

Judging from the poor standard of English expressed by many of Alesha's detractors it ill behoves them to criticise.
qwertyqueen
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by Yewtree:
“I'm more worried about her Pat Butcher earrings and her love of bum action.”

LOL!
samiskim
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Pot and kettle sammy - that post is not without spelling, punctuation and grammatical errors.”

Sammy is not a judge on a national television show- there is a difference; nor is the poster being paid from licence fee money. Alesha is a very beautiful and talented girl, she can sing, she can dance and most probably act as well. She let's herself down when she opens her mouth. How can anyone take her seriously when she speaks trashy English.
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