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So are we stuck with Joe for the foreseeable? (Merged)
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*Laura*
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by FluffyEgg:
“She mucked up putting [the cape on too as a skirt, kindly hidden by neat camera shot.

The BBC don't WANT Joe out. They are banking (wrongly) that the love story of Joe and Gerty is important to us”

And what was all that nonsense with his name on the back of the cape (and don't even get me started on the belt)? It seems to me that Kristina was relying on gimmicks and her dancing rather than trying to help Joe. I could be hyper-critical because as Erinfan said there probably isn't a lot to work with. However, she is slowly appearing to me as a lazy choreographer who is relying on her partner's popularity to keep them in the competition.
sofakat
04-10-2009
I think they've become the comedy act. I feel sorry for him, He's like a lost kid on the playground with a suspect auntie in tow.

Poor sap.

And don't call the Welsh stupid.
FluffyEgg
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“And what was all that nonsense with his name on the back of the cape (and don't even get me started on the belt)? It seems to me that Kristina was relying on gimmicks and her dancing rather than trying to help Joe. I could be hyper-critical because as Erinfan said there probably isn't a lot to work with. However, she is slowly appearing to me as a lazy choreographer who is relying on her partner's popularity to keep them in the competition.”

yes it is very lazy and seemed to me to be just self advertising.

who the hell cares, he's a retired boxer - big whoop.
FluffyEgg
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“I think they've become the comedy act. I feel sorry for him, He's like a lost kid on the playground with a suspect auntie in tow.

Poor sap.

And don't call the Welsh stupid.”

I didn't call them stupid, I can't see any nation being stupid enough to blindly vote for a crap dancer.

As for the suspect auntie, she is 26? And looks nearer 46 - how the hell did that happen lol
Erinfan
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“And what was all that nonsense with his name on the back of the cape (and don't even get me started on the belt)? It seems to me that Kristina was relying on gimmicks and her dancing rather than trying to help Joe. I could be hyper-critical because as Erinfan said there probably isn't a lot to work with. However, she is slowly appearing to me as a lazy choreographer who is relying on her partner's popularity to keep them in the competition.”

I find it very hard to judge as both of her partners have been woeful. (although she got a nice Waltz out of JS) The fact that Joe has been shown struggling with such simple movements and timing makes me think she has little choice but to adopt the emergency tactic. He looks as though he struggles with so many aspects of dance, which makes it hard to draw out a strength.
Miss Moneypenny
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by FluffyEgg:
“Surely the Welsh are not that stupid?”

If the welsh are voting for Joe then why shoudnt they,,,its not any different to the english voting for Darren Gough when he first started, and yes, I am Welsh and will be voting for Joe every single week !!! I will vote for who I want !
Fudd
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by Erinfan:
“I find it very hard to judge as both of her partners have been woeful. The fact that Joe has been shown struggling with such simple movements and timing makes me think she has little choice but to adopt the emergency tactic though.”

I agree. I thought she choreographed a good tango for him, it looked simple but effective. He didn't help by turning into a wardrobe the moment he stepped onto the dance floor.
FluffyEgg
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by Erinfan:
“FluffyEgg, I hope you haven't been taking notice of the utter crap written in the tabloids about Kristina being a Siberian Sex Bomb Maneater!!!!

(Well perhaps she is - but their reasons don't exactly carry much weight!)”

Well, I get the dirty vibe from her. She's no shrinking violet and a tiger in the sack I bet. She looks pure filth.

Mind you I get the vibe from kawasaki that he just lies there posing and lets the lady do all the work.
FluffyEgg
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by Miss Moneypenny:
“If the welsh are voting for Joe then why shoudnt they,,,its not any different to the english voting for Darren Gough when he first started, and yes, I am Welsh and will be voting for Joe every single week !!! I will vote for who I want !”

Of course you vote for who you want just means you don't rate this as a show about dancing quality
Miss Moneypenny
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by FluffyEgg:
“Of course you vote for who you want just means you don't rate this as a show about dancing quality ”

Everone knows that Strictly is a personality contest really,,,and thats why the best dancer does not always win.People even vote for the best professional,,and its not them that are competing. Its the celebrity.
FluffyEgg
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by Miss Moneypenny:
“Everone knows that Strictly is a personality contest really,,,and thats why the best dancer does not always win.People even vote for the best professional,,and its not them that are competing. Its the celebrity.”

Ok fair enough!!!!!!

But I still can't see the personality in him, he's wooden, but whatever floats your boat
Fudd
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by FluffyEgg:
“Well, I get the dirty vibe from her. She's no shrinking violet and a tiger in the sack I bet. She looks pure filth.

Mind you I get the vibe from kawasaki that he just lies there posing and lets the lady do all the work.”

I always thought he was a bike.
trunkster
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by FluffyEgg:
“I guess you've never been then.”

Unfortunately i have
sofakat
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by FluffyEgg:
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As for the suspect auntie, she is 26? And looks nearer 46 - how the hell did that happen lol”

The determined pursuit of unsuitable and unavailable men must take it out of her!
*Laura*
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by FluffyEgg:
“Of course you vote for who you want just means you don't rate this as a show about dancing quality ”

Tonight even Craig said it was all about entertainment.

Originally Posted by Miss Moneypenny:
“Everone knows that Strictly is a personality contest really,,,and thats why the best dancer does not always win.People even vote for the best professional,,and its not them that are competing. Its the celebrity.”

Agreed. I can remember coming on here and reading appreciation threads before a foot had hit the dance floor.
FluffyEgg
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“Tonight even Craig said it was all about entertainment.


Agreed. I can remember coming on here and reading appreciation threads before a foot had hit the dance floor. ”

I don't disagree, I find Ricky Groves HIGHLY entertaining.


Just I can't find anything entertaining in Mr Wooden.
SULLA
04-10-2009
It only when they have to keep him in preference to a good dancer that it becomes a problem.
*Laura*
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“It only when they have to keep him in preference to a good dancer that it becomes a problem.”

I agree. However, it would depend on what type of voter you are:
[list]Fan of celeb[/list][list]Fan of the "journey"[/list][list]Fan of being "entertained[/list][list]Fan of the pro[/list][list]Fan of good dancing[/list]
These are the main reasons why people vote and all to often it's the fan of the good dancers who don't pick up the phone.
zankoku87
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“I agree. However, it would depend on what type of voter you are:
[list]Fan of celeb[/list][list]Fan of the "journey"[/list][list]Fan of being "entertained[/list][list]Fan of the pro[/list][list]Fan of good dancing[/list]
These are the main reasons why people vote and all to often it's the fan of the good dancers who don't pick up the phone.”

Not to mention any combination of the above!
tutti_frutti_79
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by justpootling:
“I would imagine so. With the whole of Wales and ITV staff both voting for him every week, I can't see him in the dance off anytime soon. Makes a mockery of the show, but what can you do?”


Comments like this really P*ss me off. Why assume that the whole of Wales is voting for Joe??????

I for one am not and a lot of ppl I know aren't.

It's like saying the whole of Ireland were voting for Richard last week or that everyone in England is voting for every bugger else on the show.

Get a grip and stop with the veiled racism.
the_daddy
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by tutti_frutti_79:
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Get a grip and stop with the veiled racism.”

Well said.
Thistle74
04-10-2009
The wife can't stand him and wants him off, same old crappy 'fisty boxing' routine every time the camera comes on him too :yawn:

I have to admit, i ain't a boxing fan, but i always thought 'good on you' for what he achieved, but he comes across as a bit of a c*ck on this show!!
thenetworkbabe
04-10-2009
He's dire but my sixth sense from looking at the order they announced the ones saved in (on the Hannibal Lecter advice to Clarice thats its not as random as it looks) suggests Joe's not that safe. The same sense is telling me that when Phil turns up between the top guy on the judges scoreboard and the top girl Ali in the announcement order it may be him piling up the sportsman vote. That would make sense as he has more personality and actually dances a bit too. That may prove complete rubbish - but lets see.
Release Me
04-10-2009
He's becoming a media whore with his dance partner in the newspapers.
BelgoLift
04-10-2009
Originally Posted by kp2ni:
“Yes and we are renaming the show Strictly Come Walking”

Or Strictly Come Acting
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