BT Vision Question - thinking of joining.

ScubaSteve21 · 06-10-2009, 18:48

Hi Guys,

I was hoping you could answer some questions for me, as I was thinking of joining BT Vision and leaving Sky.

1) Do you have access to the BBC iPlayer with BT vision?

2) Will I be able to watch any of the current Sky 1 series (i.e. House, Flash Forward, Lost, 24 (when they return)?

3) Presumably it works just like Sky+ and that I can record things to playback later?

4) Is the signal more reliable than Sky? The weather isn't going to effect my picture?

Thanks

noise747 · 06-10-2009, 19:04

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Originally Posted by ScubaSteve21

Hi Guys,

I was hoping you could answer some questions for me, as I was thinking of joining BT Vision and leaving Sky.

1) Do you have access to the BBC iPlayer with BT vision?

Not Iplayer as such, it have something calle replay, whihc does show some BBC stuff, but not as much as Iplayer.

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2) Will I be able to watch any of the current Sky 1 series (i.e. House, Flash Forward, Lost, 24 (when they return)?

No, BTvision do show some stuff that Sky one shows, like Lost, but it is often behind Sky.

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3) Presumably it works just like Sky+ and that I can record things to playback later?

Only the Freeview part. The other stuff is on Demand, you can watch it when you want.

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4) Is the signal more reliable than Sky? The weather isn't going to effect my picture?

Thanks

Don't compare BT vision with Sky, it is nothi8ng like Sky.

BTV consists of a Freeview PVR, whihc allows you to record Freevieww channels.

Go here to see what channels are on Freeview.

But you may not get all those channels, it depends on where you live, you may not be able to get freeview at all, but most people can.

Go here for a postcode check

The other part is On demand, that is you get the content via Broadband, again it depends on where you live and haw fast your broadband is, you also have to be with BT Broadband to get BT Vision.

go here to see what is available on BT Vision.

I know people, including my self compares BTV to Sky, but the only thing that compares is that it is another way to get pay T.V.

You don't get channels apart from Freeview ones, and the content is behind Sky, but have a look at the links and see what you think.

wwwebber · 06-10-2009, 20:39

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1) Do you have access to the BBC iPlayer with BT vision?

You dont but all 5 main terrestrial broadcasters are represented. The broadcasters choose what goes on Replay and they're usually bang on. The picture quality is better than iplayer too.

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2) Will I be able to watch any of the current Sky 1 series (i.e. House, Flash Forward, Lost, 24 (when they return)?

Sky has first dibs / exclusive rights on most of these but they do come to BTVision and / or Freeview eventually anyway.

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3) Presumably it works just like Sky+ and that I can record things to playback later?

Exactly the same. But you cant record on demand content - there's no point as you can watch it any time you like anyway.

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4) Is the signal more reliable than Sky? The weather isn't going to effect my picture?

My Freeview & VOD is rock solid. There can be problems as with anything but they are rare.

levineg · 07-10-2009, 01:36

My advice, don't bother subscribing to BT Vision. It is a complete waste of money.

BT never seem to update any of the On Demand content and as such, once you have watched the majority of the content, then the content is old.

Vision Music is bad, you are better using the internet to watch music videos, more choice via the internet.

TV Replay, ITV is one of the worst culprits for uploading content and can take over 2 days for content to be uploaded.

Once my 12 month contract is complete, I intend to cancel the bronze pack.

I am now bored of BT Vision because I have seen all the content and there is nothing left to watch.

Don't waste your money or time with this service.

wwwebber · 07-10-2009, 08:20

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Originally Posted by levineg

My advice, don't bother subscribing to BT Vision. It is a complete waste of money.

BT never seem to update any of the On Demand content and as such, once you have watched the majority of the content, then the content is old.

Vision Music is bad, you are better using the internet to watch music videos, more choice via the internet.

TV Replay, ITV is one of the worst culprits for uploading content and can take over 2 days for content to be uploaded.

Once my 12 month contract is complete, I intend to cancel the bronze pack.

I am now bored of BT Vision because I have seen all the content and there is nothing left to watch.

Don't waste your money or time with this service.

In your opinion of course. And it is not an opinion shared by many.

noise747 · 07-10-2009, 11:01

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Originally Posted by levineg

My advice, don't bother subscribing to BT Vision. It is a complete waste of money.

BT never seem to update any of the On Demand content and as such, once you have watched the majority of the content, then the content is old.

Vision Music is bad, you are better using the internet to watch music videos, more choice via the internet.

TV Replay, ITV is one of the worst culprits for uploading content and can take over 2 days for content to be uploaded.

Once my 12 month contract is complete, I intend to cancel the bronze pack.

I am now bored of BT Vision because I have seen all the content and there is nothing left to watch.

Don't waste your money or time with this service.

sounds like all pay T.V. The reason I gave Sky up was because of all the repeats and after a few months, everything is watched, with just the odd new thing being broadcasted.

I don't disagree with you about some of your comments about BTvision, I have seen what is available on it and I don't think it is worth bothering with, but some people like it.

intercept · 07-10-2009, 11:03

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Originally Posted by levineg

Once my 12 month contract is complete, I intend to cancel the bronze pack.

I am now bored of BT Vision because I have seen all the content and there is nothing left to watch.

- more than 8000 hours of content with 100's of hours added/removed each week and you've watched it all in 12 months? I wish I had as much free time as you...

noise747 · 07-10-2009, 23:29

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Originally Posted by intercept

- more than 8000 hours of content with 100's of hours added/removed each week and you've watched it all in 12 months? I wish I had as much free time as you...

I got bored of Sky after about 6 months as there was so many repeats on. at the end of the day there is only so much one will want to watch on BTV and when that is watched it would get boring, certainly since the content don't seem to change a lot.

spaceman05 · 08-10-2009, 19:49

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Originally Posted by intercept

- more than 8000 hours of content with 100's of hours added/removed each week and you've watched it all in 12 months? I wish I had as much free time as you...

i was wondering the same thing, lol, he says bt never update the on demand, well i must have a different box to him then, as i get new programs every thursday, am i the only one then, certainly too much on there for me to get bored watching it

spaceman05 · 08-10-2009, 19:55

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Originally Posted by noise747

I got bored of Sky after about 6 months as there was so many repeats on. at the end of the day there is only so much one will want to watch on BTV and when that is watched it would get boring, certainly since the content don't seem to change a lot.

the problem with sky is there are too many channels, but most of it is either american dross(not all of it is dross, but most of it is), or cheap reality programs, like i have said previously i have the whole sky package, and in the 9 months i have had vision i have only watched one thing on sky and that was a film with the kids

ney · 08-10-2009, 20:11

I have been holding of getting BTVision to see if they will bring out a box that can cope with the new Freeview HD channels that are due out end of the year or early next year. There has been talk that BT may bring out a box so you can get the Freeview HD channels.

Darren

Matterhorn · 08-10-2009, 21:38

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Originally Posted by intercept

- more than 8000 hours of content with 100's of hours added/removed each week and you've watched it all in 12 months? I wish I had as much free time as you...

sounds good in theory, I fell for it.

reality is that everything you actually want to watch you will have seen before somewhere else...

twice.

just looking at the 'whats new' section in TV for example..on my box

listed is

Top Gear s13 (which has not only finished on Beeb 2 but has also been on Dave)

Cracker s3 (1995)

Americas next top model (2005)

CSI - NY s2 (2005)

I'm not saying don't get it I'm just saying, be aware of its limitations.

wwwebber · 08-10-2009, 22:36

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Originally Posted by Matterhorn

sounds good in theory, I fell for it.

reality is that everything you actually want to watch you will have seen before somewhere else...

twice.

just looking at the 'whats new' section in TV for example..on my box

listed is

Top Gear s13 (which has not only finished on Beeb 2 but has also been on Dave)

Cracker s3 (1995)

Americas next top model (2005)

CSI - NY s2 (2005)

I'm not saying don't get it I'm just saying, be aware of its limitations.

Just for those who are listening. This is not a limitation. It's only a limitation if you are forced to watch these programmes. Thats the beauty of VOD - watch these programmes if you havent seen them or watch something else if you have.

Matterhorn · 08-10-2009, 22:53

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Originally Posted by wwwebber

Just for those who are listening. This is not a limitation. It's only a limitation if you are forced to watch these programmes. Thats the beauty of VOD - watch these programmes if you havent seen them or watch something else if you have.

fair point and very true... however I think it is indicitive of the type of content, and its' age that is on Vision.

remember that the programmes I listed are classed as 'new' by BTV not library or archive.

like I said, don't not get BTV if you really want it, just go into it with your eyes open.

edit. you don't have to watch anything at all if you don't want. Thats the beauty of most entertainment and isn't unique to BTV or VOD....

there is always the off switch..

noise747 · 08-10-2009, 23:11

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Originally Posted by spaceman05

the problem with sky is there are too many channels, but most of it is either american dross(not all of it is dross, but most of it is), or cheap reality programs, like i have said previously i have the whole sky package, and in the 9 months i have had vision i have only watched one thing on sky and that was a film with the kids

The problem is there is too much dross. that seems to be where T.v is now, you get the odd good thing worth watching and then the rest is X-factor clones, with a bit of Big Brother clones, then a the same soaps on day in day out.

You get Sky, BTV or any pay T.v service and what you get is the same sort of thing with a few drams chucked in for good measure, but most of them is as you say American dross even on BTV.

sure, you can pick and choose what you want to watch, but sooner or later you get to the point where you wonder why on earth are you watching the rubbish, unless you like American dross.

You get stuff like "Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: The Ultimate Winning Technique" Give us a break and stuff like "I Own Britain's Best Home And Garden"

Sure you get Lost and few other things, but most of it is Dross, you only have to look on the list at http://www.btvision.bt.com/search-a-to-z and to be honest there is very little on there I would not call dross.

I just got fed up of watching failed celebs trying to get back on t.V, I find very little on T.v now to excite me, be it sky, BTV, or Freeview.

noise747 · 08-10-2009, 23:15

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Originally Posted by wwwebber

Just for those who are listening. This is not a limitation. It's only a limitation if you are forced to watch these programmes. Thats the beauty of VOD - watch these programmes if you havent seen them or watch something else if you have.

I know you don't pay a subscription, but for people who do, since BT seems to try and sway people towards that way, then if you don't use watch VOD it is money down the drain.

I suppose you could say that about sky, but with Sky or any other linear T.v service it is a lot easier to flip though the channels than choose content from a VOD system

Matterhorn · 08-10-2009, 23:27

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Originally Posted by noise747

The problem is there is too much dross. that seems to be where T.v is now, you get the odd good thing worth watching and then the rest is X-factor clones, with a bit of Big Brother clones, then a the same soaps on day in day out.

You get Sky, BTV or any pay T.v service and what you get is the same sort of thing with a few drams chucked in for good measure, but most of them is as you say American dross even on BTV.

sure, you can pick and choose what you want to watch, but sooner or later you get to the point where you wonder why on earth are you watching the rubbish, unless you like American dross.

You get stuff like "Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: The Ultimate Winning Technique" Give us a break and stuff like "I Own Britain's Best Home And Garden"

Sure you get Lost and few other things, but most of it is Dross, you only have to look on the list at http://www.btvision.bt.com/search-a-to-z and to be honest there is very little on there I would not call dross.

I just got fed up of watching failed celebs trying to get back on t.V, I find very little on T.v now to excite me, be it sky, BTV, or Freeview.

the good thing with Sky is that for 2 packs I can watch Racing and Eurosport... which with Setantas demise mean USPGA tour golf amongst others.

Matterhorn · 08-10-2009, 23:28

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Originally Posted by noise747

I know you don't pay a subscription, but for people who do, since BT seems to try and sway people towards that way, then if you don't use watch VOD it is money down the drain.

I suppose you could say that about sky, but with Sky or any other linear T.v service it is a lot easier to flip though the channels than choose content from a VOD system

i think he does pay a sub, otherwise he wouldn't rave about non live football and replay.

wwwebber · 09-10-2009, 10:26

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Originally Posted by Matterhorn

i think he does pay a sub, otherwise he wouldn't rave about non live football and replay.

I "rave" on about them for a very good reason. Both are very good services.

BTVision is the ONLY place where you can see the full 90 minutes (or highlights if you prefer) of games not televised live by Sky / ESPN - including ALL Saturday 3pm kick off games. These become available at 10pm on match day. It is great to catch games not televised by Sky - especially if there are goal fests that you dont want to miss out on

TV replay speaks for itself - you yourself have also endorsed it.

Matterhorn · 09-10-2009, 17:45

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Originally Posted by wwwebber

I "rave" on about them for a very good reason. Both are very good services.

BTVision is the ONLY place where you can see the full 90 minutes (or highlights if you prefer) of games not televised live by Sky / ESPN - including ALL Saturday 3pm kick off games. These become available at 10pm on match day. It is great to catch games not televised by Sky - especially if there are goal fests that you dont want to miss out on

TV replay speaks for itself - you yourself have also endorsed it.

Replay we agree on.

I will never understand the attraction of watching a full game 5 hours after it's finished though.

I along with most of my immediate peer group think its a laughable idea.

Judging by the subscribers numbers.... we are in the majority.

wwwebber · 09-10-2009, 18:29

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Originally Posted by Matterhorn

I will never understand the attraction of watching a full game 5 hours after it's finished though.

Spoken like a man who calls proper Football "Soccer".

You and your peer group cant be Premiership football fans then because any decent fan would love to see a full re-run of any non live televised instant classic game that accurred that afternoon - especially if you happen to support one of the teams involved.

stuntmaster · 09-10-2009, 19:15

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Originally Posted by wwwebber

Spoken like a man who calls proper Football "Soccer".

You and your peer group cant be Premiership football fans then because any decent fan would love to see a full re-run of any non live televised instant classic game that accurred that afternoon - especially if you happen to support one of the teams involved.

yes.

think about it.

say man u played a match at 3PM say against spurs or say everton. and they had a good game say winning 4-3 and rooney scoring in the dying secconds. well you'd want to watch the match in full wouldn't you? and say you couldn't go to old trafford. BT Vision sport gives you both the full match or extended 45 minutes highlights. something that even the BBC can't offer.

matterhorn would carp on about football first next, but thats tied into a specific time, late at night. the vision matches can be watched the next day or the day after that. even covers midweek games too. I think football first doesn't cover that.

because in the UK the law states that no 3PM matches are allowed to be televised, as it can affect the attendance and could cause problems with club financing.

06-10-2009, 18:48	#1
ScubaSteve21 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kingdom of Fife Posts: 2,847	BT Vision Question - thinking of joining. Hi Guys, I was hoping you could answer some questions for me, as I was thinking of joining BT Vision and leaving Sky. 1) Do you have access to the BBC iPlayer with BT vision? 2) Will I be able to watch any of the current Sky 1 series (i.e. House, Flash Forward, Lost, 24 (when they return)? 3) Presumably it works just like Sky+ and that I can record things to playback later? 4) Is the signal more reliable than Sky? The weather isn't going to effect my picture? Thanks

06-10-2009, 19:04	#2
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Quote: Originally Posted by ScubaSteve21 Hi Guys, I was hoping you could answer some questions for me, as I was thinking of joining BT Vision and leaving Sky. 1) Do you have access to the BBC iPlayer with BT vision? Not Iplayer as such, it have something calle replay, whihc does show some BBC stuff, but not as much as Iplayer. Quote: 2) Will I be able to watch any of the current Sky 1 series (i.e. House, Flash Forward, Lost, 24 (when they return)? No, BTvision do show some stuff that Sky one shows, like Lost, but it is often behind Sky. Quote: 3) Presumably it works just like Sky+ and that I can record things to playback later? Only the Freeview part. The other stuff is on Demand, you can watch it when you want. Quote: 4) Is the signal more reliable than Sky? The weather isn't going to effect my picture? Thanks Don't compare BT vision with Sky, it is nothi8ng like Sky. BTV consists of a Freeview PVR, whihc allows you to record Freevieww channels. Go here to see what channels are on Freeview. But you may not get all those channels, it depends on where you live, you may not be able to get freeview at all, but most people can. Go here for a postcode check The other part is On demand, that is you get the content via Broadband, again it depends on where you live and haw fast your broadband is, you also have to be with BT Broadband to get BT Vision. go here to see what is available on BT Vision. I know people, including my self compares BTV to Sky, but the only thing that compares is that it is another way to get pay T.V. You don't get channels apart from Freeview ones, and the content is behind Sky, but have a look at the links and see what you think.

06-10-2009, 20:39	#3
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	Quote: 1) Do you have access to the BBC iPlayer with BT vision? You dont but all 5 main terrestrial broadcasters are represented. The broadcasters choose what goes on Replay and they're usually bang on. The picture quality is better than iplayer too. Quote: 2) Will I be able to watch any of the current Sky 1 series (i.e. House, Flash Forward, Lost, 24 (when they return)? Sky has first dibs / exclusive rights on most of these but they do come to BTVision and / or Freeview eventually anyway. Quote: 3) Presumably it works just like Sky+ and that I can record things to playback later? Exactly the same. But you cant record on demand content - there's no point as you can watch it any time you like anyway. Quote: 4) Is the signal more reliable than Sky? The weather isn't going to effect my picture? My Freeview & VOD is rock solid. There can be problems as with anything but they are rare.

07-10-2009, 01:36	#4
levineg Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 319	My advice, don't bother subscribing to BT Vision. It is a complete waste of money. BT never seem to update any of the On Demand content and as such, once you have watched the majority of the content, then the content is old. Vision Music is bad, you are better using the internet to watch music videos, more choice via the internet. TV Replay, ITV is one of the worst culprits for uploading content and can take over 2 days for content to be uploaded. Once my 12 month contract is complete, I intend to cancel the bronze pack. I am now bored of BT Vision because I have seen all the content and there is nothing left to watch. Don't waste your money or time with this service.

07-10-2009, 08:20	#5
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	Quote: Originally Posted by levineg My advice, don't bother subscribing to BT Vision. It is a complete waste of money. BT never seem to update any of the On Demand content and as such, once you have watched the majority of the content, then the content is old. Vision Music is bad, you are better using the internet to watch music videos, more choice via the internet. TV Replay, ITV is one of the worst culprits for uploading content and can take over 2 days for content to be uploaded. Once my 12 month contract is complete, I intend to cancel the bronze pack. I am now bored of BT Vision because I have seen all the content and there is nothing left to watch. Don't waste your money or time with this service. In your opinion of course. And it is not an opinion shared by many.

07-10-2009, 11:01	#6
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Quote: Originally Posted by levineg My advice, don't bother subscribing to BT Vision. It is a complete waste of money. BT never seem to update any of the On Demand content and as such, once you have watched the majority of the content, then the content is old. Vision Music is bad, you are better using the internet to watch music videos, more choice via the internet. TV Replay, ITV is one of the worst culprits for uploading content and can take over 2 days for content to be uploaded. Once my 12 month contract is complete, I intend to cancel the bronze pack. I am now bored of BT Vision because I have seen all the content and there is nothing left to watch. Don't waste your money or time with this service. sounds like all pay T.V. The reason I gave Sky up was because of all the repeats and after a few months, everything is watched, with just the odd new thing being broadcasted. I don't disagree with you about some of your comments about BTvision, I have seen what is available on it and I don't think it is worth bothering with, but some people like it.

07-10-2009, 11:03	#7
intercept Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 311	Quote: Originally Posted by levineg Once my 12 month contract is complete, I intend to cancel the bronze pack. I am now bored of BT Vision because I have seen all the content and there is nothing left to watch. - more than 8000 hours of content with 100's of hours added/removed each week and you've watched it all in 12 months? I wish I had as much free time as you...

07-10-2009, 23:29	#8
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Quote: Originally Posted by intercept - more than 8000 hours of content with 100's of hours added/removed each week and you've watched it all in 12 months? I wish I had as much free time as you... I got bored of Sky after about 6 months as there was so many repeats on. at the end of the day there is only so much one will want to watch on BTV and when that is watched it would get boring, certainly since the content don't seem to change a lot.

08-10-2009, 19:49	#9
spaceman05 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,113	Quote: Originally Posted by intercept - more than 8000 hours of content with 100's of hours added/removed each week and you've watched it all in 12 months? I wish I had as much free time as you... i was wondering the same thing, lol, he says bt never update the on demand, well i must have a different box to him then, as i get new programs every thursday, am i the only one then, certainly too much on there for me to get bored watching it

08-10-2009, 19:55	#10
spaceman05 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,113	Quote: Originally Posted by noise747 I got bored of Sky after about 6 months as there was so many repeats on. at the end of the day there is only so much one will want to watch on BTV and when that is watched it would get boring, certainly since the content don't seem to change a lot. the problem with sky is there are too many channels, but most of it is either american dross(not all of it is dross, but most of it is), or cheap reality programs, like i have said previously i have the whole sky package, and in the 9 months i have had vision i have only watched one thing on sky and that was a film with the kids

08-10-2009, 20:11	#11
ney Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Scotland, Dunfermline Area Posts: 10,705	I have been holding of getting BTVision to see if they will bring out a box that can cope with the new Freeview HD channels that are due out end of the year or early next year. There has been talk that BT may bring out a box so you can get the Freeview HD channels. Darren

08-10-2009, 21:38	#12
Matterhorn Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 729	Quote: Originally Posted by intercept - more than 8000 hours of content with 100's of hours added/removed each week and you've watched it all in 12 months? I wish I had as much free time as you... sounds good in theory, I fell for it. reality is that everything you actually want to watch you will have seen before somewhere else... twice. just looking at the 'whats new' section in TV for example..on my box listed is Top Gear s13 (which has not only finished on Beeb 2 but has also been on Dave) Cracker s3 (1995) Americas next top model (2005) CSI - NY s2 (2005) I'm not saying don't get it I'm just saying, be aware of its limitations.

08-10-2009, 22:36	#13
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	Quote: Originally Posted by Matterhorn sounds good in theory, I fell for it. reality is that everything you actually want to watch you will have seen before somewhere else... twice. just looking at the 'whats new' section in TV for example..on my box listed is Top Gear s13 (which has not only finished on Beeb 2 but has also been on Dave) Cracker s3 (1995) Americas next top model (2005) CSI - NY s2 (2005) I'm not saying don't get it I'm just saying, be aware of its limitations. Just for those who are listening. This is not a limitation. It's only a limitation if you are forced to watch these programmes. Thats the beauty of VOD - watch these programmes if you havent seen them or watch something else if you have.

08-10-2009, 22:53	#14
Matterhorn Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 729	Quote: Originally Posted by wwwebber Just for those who are listening. This is not a limitation. It's only a limitation if you are forced to watch these programmes. Thats the beauty of VOD - watch these programmes if you havent seen them or watch something else if you have. fair point and very true... however I think it is indicitive of the type of content, and its' age that is on Vision. remember that the programmes I listed are classed as 'new' by BTV not library or archive. like I said, don't not get BTV if you really want it, just go into it with your eyes open. edit. you don't have to watch anything at all if you don't want. Thats the beauty of most entertainment and isn't unique to BTV or VOD.... there is always the off switch..

08-10-2009, 23:11	#15
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Quote: Originally Posted by spaceman05 the problem with sky is there are too many channels, but most of it is either american dross(not all of it is dross, but most of it is), or cheap reality programs, like i have said previously i have the whole sky package, and in the 9 months i have had vision i have only watched one thing on sky and that was a film with the kids The problem is there is too much dross. that seems to be where T.v is now, you get the odd good thing worth watching and then the rest is X-factor clones, with a bit of Big Brother clones, then a the same soaps on day in day out. You get Sky, BTV or any pay T.v service and what you get is the same sort of thing with a few drams chucked in for good measure, but most of them is as you say American dross even on BTV. sure, you can pick and choose what you want to watch, but sooner or later you get to the point where you wonder why on earth are you watching the rubbish, unless you like American dross. You get stuff like "Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: The Ultimate Winning Technique" Give us a break and stuff like "I Own Britain's Best Home And Garden" Sure you get Lost and few other things, but most of it is Dross, you only have to look on the list at http://www.btvision.bt.com/search-a-to-z and to be honest there is very little on there I would not call dross. I just got fed up of watching failed celebs trying to get back on t.V, I find very little on T.v now to excite me, be it sky, BTV, or Freeview.

08-10-2009, 23:15	#16
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Quote: Originally Posted by wwwebber Just for those who are listening. This is not a limitation. It's only a limitation if you are forced to watch these programmes. Thats the beauty of VOD - watch these programmes if you havent seen them or watch something else if you have. I know you don't pay a subscription, but for people who do, since BT seems to try and sway people towards that way, then if you don't use watch VOD it is money down the drain. I suppose you could say that about sky, but with Sky or any other linear T.v service it is a lot easier to flip though the channels than choose content from a VOD system

08-10-2009, 23:27	#17
Matterhorn Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 729	Quote: Originally Posted by noise747 The problem is there is too much dross. that seems to be where T.v is now, you get the odd good thing worth watching and then the rest is X-factor clones, with a bit of Big Brother clones, then a the same soaps on day in day out. You get Sky, BTV or any pay T.v service and what you get is the same sort of thing with a few drams chucked in for good measure, but most of them is as you say American dross even on BTV. sure, you can pick and choose what you want to watch, but sooner or later you get to the point where you wonder why on earth are you watching the rubbish, unless you like American dross. You get stuff like "Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: The Ultimate Winning Technique" Give us a break and stuff like "I Own Britain's Best Home And Garden" Sure you get Lost and few other things, but most of it is Dross, you only have to look on the list at http://www.btvision.bt.com/search-a-to-z and to be honest there is very little on there I would not call dross. I just got fed up of watching failed celebs trying to get back on t.V, I find very little on T.v now to excite me, be it sky, BTV, or Freeview. the good thing with Sky is that for 2 packs I can watch Racing and Eurosport... which with Setantas demise mean USPGA tour golf amongst others.

08-10-2009, 23:28	#18
Matterhorn Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 729	Quote: Originally Posted by noise747 I know you don't pay a subscription, but for people who do, since BT seems to try and sway people towards that way, then if you don't use watch VOD it is money down the drain. I suppose you could say that about sky, but with Sky or any other linear T.v service it is a lot easier to flip though the channels than choose content from a VOD system i think he does pay a sub, otherwise he wouldn't rave about non live football and replay.

09-10-2009, 10:26	#19
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	Quote: Originally Posted by Matterhorn i think he does pay a sub, otherwise he wouldn't rave about non live football and replay. I "rave" on about them for a very good reason. Both are very good services. BTVision is the ONLY place where you can see the full 90 minutes (or highlights if you prefer) of games not televised live by Sky / ESPN - including ALL Saturday 3pm kick off games. These become available at 10pm on match day. It is great to catch games not televised by Sky - especially if there are goal fests that you dont want to miss out on TV replay speaks for itself - you yourself have also endorsed it.

09-10-2009, 17:45	#20
Matterhorn Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 729	Quote: Originally Posted by wwwebber I "rave" on about them for a very good reason. Both are very good services. BTVision is the ONLY place where you can see the full 90 minutes (or highlights if you prefer) of games not televised live by Sky / ESPN - including ALL Saturday 3pm kick off games. These become available at 10pm on match day. It is great to catch games not televised by Sky - especially if there are goal fests that you dont want to miss out on TV replay speaks for itself - you yourself have also endorsed it. Replay we agree on. I will never understand the attraction of watching a full game 5 hours after it's finished though. I along with most of my immediate peer group think its a laughable idea. Judging by the subscribers numbers.... we are in the majority.

09-10-2009, 18:29	#21
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	Quote: Originally Posted by Matterhorn I will never understand the attraction of watching a full game 5 hours after it's finished though. Spoken like a man who calls proper Football "Soccer". You and your peer group cant be Premiership football fans then because any decent fan would love to see a full re-run of any non live televised instant classic game that accurred that afternoon - especially if you happen to support one of the teams involved.

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09-10-2009, 19:15	#22
stuntmaster Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southampton - Hannington - TX Posts: 4,878	Quote: Originally Posted by wwwebber Spoken like a man who calls proper Football "Soccer". You and your peer group cant be Premiership football fans then because any decent fan would love to see a full re-run of any non live televised instant classic game that accurred that afternoon - especially if you happen to support one of the teams involved. yes. think about it. say man u played a match at 3PM say against spurs or say everton. and they had a good game say winning 4-3 and rooney scoring in the dying secconds. well you'd want to watch the match in full wouldn't you? and say you couldn't go to old trafford. BT Vision sport gives you both the full match or extended 45 minutes highlights. something that even the BBC can't offer. matterhorn would carp on about football first next, but thats tied into a specific time, late at night. the vision matches can be watched the next day or the day after that. even covers midweek games too. I think football first doesn't cover that. because in the UK the law states that no 3PM matches are allowed to be televised, as it can affect the attendance and could cause problems with club financing.