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1st October - Still no (meaningful) firmware update!!
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grahamlthompson
31-10-2009
Originally Posted by carvell:
“Come off it. There's no way it's "seriously flawed". And it should "never have been released in the market in the state it's in" - what are you on about?!

It's far from "disgusting" that there hasn't been an update for a year, also. Disappointing yes, disgusting, no.

If you were to do a survey on every single HDR owner (yes, there's a whole world outside digital spy!), you genuinely think over 50% of the people would tick the box saying it's seriously flawed?”

Ignore him he's trolling unless he has a faulty box it's complete and utter rubbish. If his box is faulty he should get it swapped under warranty.
Tern
31-10-2009
Originally Posted by carvell:
“If you were to do a survey on every single HDR owner (yes, there's a whole world outside digital spy!), you genuinely think over 50% of the people would tick the box saying it's seriously flawed?”

If you believe a box that cannot manage what VCR's managed for many years - i.e. to record what they were asked to record after a power cut - is not 'seriously flawed', that's your opinion.

If you believe a box that can very easily wipe out a collection of timers and not leave any indication is not 'seriously flawed', that's your opinion too.

But I think you're going a step too far to try and force those opinions on other people.

What many people find disgraceful about Humax's behaviour is that they have not corrected serious operational faults in the functionality that the box is advertised to perform but have rather decided to pranny around with a feature that it was not advertised to perform.


BTW, does anyone else think that these 'Humax defenders' are actually employees of rival companies who post their 'defence' in order to guarantee that they will cause a few more critical posts?

Because that's what seems to happen pretty much every time.
DeltaX
31-10-2009
Originally Posted by froxfieldrover:
“Other people, myself included, also get peeved with the knee jerk "my HUMAX is great" posts..
”

Some of us get peeved with over negative attitude of about the Humax.

Originally Posted by froxfieldrover:
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Although some people might not think the HUMAX is cumulatively seriously flawed. It is.
”

That is of course your opinion - but it is not one which I share

Originally Posted by froxfieldrover:
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It should never have been released to market in the state that it was...
”

I am very please with mine - it does exactly what I expected it to
DeltaX
31-10-2009
Originally Posted by carvell:
“If you were to do a survey on every single HDR owner (yes, there's a whole world outside digital spy!), you genuinely think over 50% of the people would tick the box saying it's seriously flawed?”

I agree - I think the vast majority of useres (outside DS) would say they were completely happy with it
bramble
31-10-2009
Originally Posted by DeltaX:
“I agree - I think the vast majority of useres (outside DS) would say they were completely happy with it”

And some of us inside DS.

My HDR works exactly as I expected it to when I bought it last December. I have never experienced any of the problems described by others (maybe I'm lucky - we don't have power cuts here!)... and, frankly, the inability to delete while it's recording seems to be such a trivial niggle. I am, however, looking forward to the BBC iPlayer, when it's ready.
pizzajohn
31-10-2009
Originally Posted by froxfieldrover:
“Other people, myself included, also get peeved with the knee jerk "my HUMAX is great" posts..
Patrick”

I'm in neither of the "Humax is great" or "Humax is rubbish" camps. The camp I am in is, the don't keep going on (either good or bad), about it camp.

5, 50, 500 or 5000 'bad' posts will not make Humax work any harder or faster than it is. Similarly 5, 50, 500 or 5000 'good' posts will not cause Humax to, sit back in glory and do nothing.

That's where I'm comming from.
Tern
31-10-2009
Originally Posted by pizzajohn:
“I'm in neither of the "Humax is great" or "Humax is rubbish" camps. The camp I am in is, the don't keep going on (either good or bad), about it camp.

5, 50, 500 or 5000 'bad' posts will not make Humax work any harder or faster than it is. Similarly 5, 50, 500 or 5000 'good' posts will not cause Humax to, sit back in glory and do nothing.

That's where I'm comming from.”

And your posts are helping to get the number nearer 5000 (or 50,000) than 500.
froxfieldrover
31-10-2009
Originally Posted by pizzajohn:
“I'm in neither of the "Humax is great" or "Humax is rubbish" camps. The camp I am in is, the don't keep going on (either good or bad), about it camp.

5, 50, 500 or 5000 'bad' posts will not make Humax work any harder or faster than it is. Similarly 5, 50, 500 or 5000 'good' posts will not cause Humax to, sit back in glory and do nothing.

That's where I'm comming from.”

Fair enough although TBH, I do think that posting might have an effect! The internet obviously has massive influence on buying choices, gone are the days when the manufacturer could get away with an average or mediocre product. Plus , surely Humax in this climate don't want too much bad publicity?

In support of your view of possibly being in the middle camp, I can easily live with the product otherwise I wouldn't have kept it. It does work after all most of the time for most people and the big bonuses - it has 2 tuners and an 8 day searchable epg. I just think it could have been so much better using a minimum of extra development time.

Patrick
pizzajohn
31-10-2009
Originally Posted by Tern:
“And your posts are helping to get the number nearer 5000 (or 50,000) than 500. ”

Whoa, pot, kettle.

As do your's, on a far more signficant scale!


Tern
Forum Member

Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,067


As for your conspiracy theory, no, I neither work for Humax nor it's rivals. I also believe that man did walk on the moon and that Elvis is dead.
Tern
31-10-2009
Originally Posted by pizzajohn:
“Whoa, pot, kettle.

As do your's, on a far more signficant scale!”

Ah, but I am not complaining about people posting.

You are the one: "Stop whinging, ..., otherwise, just keep quiet.", who is instructing people not to post.

Quote:
“As for your conspiracy theory, no, I neither work for Humax nor it's rivals. I also believe that man did walk on the moon and that Elvis is dead.”

Oh dear!

I should have known someone would take that seriously even with the at the end.
grahamlthompson
31-10-2009
I say V04 will be with us all before Dec 1st 2009, any takers
prinknash
31-10-2009
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“I say V04 will be with us all before Dec 1st 2009, any takers ”

Nice thought. But I don't think I'd choose to put money on it happening.

p
carvell
31-10-2009
I thought they had to sort out the single cable people before the next update anyway?

I assume that the new loader isn't available on the website yet for the single cable people? (a safe assumption I reckon!)
Automan
01-11-2009
Thread Closed.

It is now November and no new firmware

Automan.
Tern
01-11-2009
Originally Posted by Automan:
“Thread Closed.”

Still open here.
kendalt
04-11-2009
I have one of the early HD PVRs.
If I leave it on it crashes.
I now switch it to standby and it boots up every time I use it OK. Have adopted this way of using it.
I can do very little while it is recording.
If I plug in a memory stick it does nothing i.e. it carries on displaying the same channel and I can do nothing via the remote until I remove the memory stick.
I have been very patient and hoped there would be fixes. I have a friend who bought his later who has different software and he can do things while recording.
Someone has to understand, I think, that I do not want to do a degree in PVRs - I just want to use the thing like the guide book says.
Am I out of step? It seems like some of you at least are not having these problems. Have I missed an update somewhere?
GaseousClay
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by kendalt:
“Am I out of step? It seems like some of you at least are not having these problems. Have I missed an update somewhere?”

Welcome to the forum Kendalt

the current firmware is 1.00.03

Details here
http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/suppo...ategory_seq=65


You may have a different "Loader Version" U7.52 but this won't be the problem unless you are using only one satellite feed
grahamlthompson
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by kendalt:
“I have one of the early HD PVRs.
If I leave it on it crashes.
I now switch it to standby and it boots up every time I use it OK. Have adopted this way of using it.
I can do very little while it is recording.
If I plug in a memory stick it does nothing i.e. it carries on displaying the same channel and I can do nothing via the remote until I remove the memory stick.
I have been very patient and hoped there would be fixes. I have a friend who bought his later who has different software and he can do things while recording.
Someone has to understand, I think, that I do not want to do a degree in PVRs - I just want to use the thing like the guide book says.
Am I out of step? It seems like some of you at least are not having these problems. Have I missed an update somewhere?”

Mine was an early one, it came with v01 firmware and loader 7.51 )The firmware updated to v02 on first installation) and is now on V03 from the current OTA update. It exhibits none of the symptoms you describe.

The usb problem sounds as if it's specific to your machine or usb stick it's not a problem I have seen posted before and it's not on the list of fixed bugs.
kendalt
06-11-2009
Thanks guys, and for being patient - apologies for not looking through previous posts where the issue may have been discussed many times.
The memory stick problem is fixed - went duff on me at just the wrong moment and did not check, although there is still no message on the screen when I plug a good one in - have put it down to version 01 software.
However, I had thought looping at the back from LNB1 OUT to LNB2 IN would fool the machine into thinking it had 2 inputs WRONG! It still detects as one input. I have loader 7.51.
Originally I installed only one input (although it would have been nearly as cheap as four!) because I just had the Humax HD box.
Down to Joe Maplins for some sort of splitter amplifier or 4 output LNB I think.
Grateful if someone can confirm my suppositions are correct.
grahamlthompson
06-11-2009
Originally Posted by kendalt:
“Thanks guys, and for being patient - apologies for not looking through previous posts where the issue may have been discussed many times.
The memory stick problem is fixed - went duff on me at just the wrong moment and did not check, although there is still no message on the screen when I plug a good one in - have put it down to version 01 software.
However, I had thought looping at the back from LNB1 OUT to LNB2 IN would fool the machine into thinking it had 2 inputs WRONG! It still detects as one input. I have loader 7.51.
Originally I installed only one input (although it would have been nearly as cheap as four!) because I just had the Humax HD box.
Down to Joe Maplins for some sort of splitter amplifier or 4 output LNB I think.
Grateful if someone can confirm my suppositions are correct.”

The stb has one input but the loop enables it to record using two tuners (or it should). Briefly tuner 1 controls the lnb and switches it to one of four conditions to access the channel it needs. All the channels sharing the block are available for viewing recording by the second tuner.

Download this webpage and open it in your browser

http://www.4shared.com/account/file/...icMK2_011.html

Look at col 4 the colours show the 4 possible lnb pernutations. The colours in col 1-3 show each transponder in the block and which transponders carry which channels

Here's the rules

The second tuner can record any channel in the same block as col 4 indicates.

If both programmes are being recording from the same transponder (cols 1-3) then you can view any other channel in the block (and pause it live) as this only needs one tuner.

If both recordings are from different transponders then you can view any channel sharing a transponder with either recording.

To get full working and also allow automatic OTA updating with loader 7.51 you need to change the existing lnb for a quad and give the second tuner a seperate feed.

It's possible to update with a single cable and loader 7.51 but you need to it manually.

See this post

http://www.avforums.com/forums/frees...l#post10732304
GaseousClay
06-11-2009
Originally Posted by kendalt:
“Down to Joe Maplins for some sort of splitter amplifier or 4 output LNB I think.
Grateful if someone can confirm my suppositions are correct.”

Don't go for a splitter as each tuner needs indepenant control over the LNB. Go for the quad LNB option, or twin depending on what dish you have.

Once the cabling upgrade has been done you will need to perform a factory reset to force the box to recognise the dual feeds, and possibly force the firmware update by going into the menu > set up > software update and select 'automatic update'. Good luck !!
kendalt
06-11-2009
Thanks guys. Have upgraded with one input as suggested and it worked. Really pleased with the result and the extra functionality.
Will still upgrade to 2 real inputs though.
As Blackadder would say, I feel as cunning as a fox who has just got a first in cunning at the university of cunning!
stokesd3
06-11-2009
I spoke to Humax CS about my 'HDMI mode not supported' problem yesterday and they confirmed the update should be out in 2 weeks
Widget76
07-11-2009
Originally Posted by stokesd3:
“I spoke to Humax CS about my 'HDMI mode not supported' problem yesterday and they confirmed the update should be out in 2 weeks ”

About bl**dy time!!!!

I did get an email from Freesat last night telling me that the Beta trial for the iplayer is now up and running and those of us doing the trial will have a usb-stick with the upgrade on it so that we can upgrade our boxes and trial it for them.
They also stated that the trial was only being carried out on Humax boxes and required a minimum 1Mbps internet connection speed.
Zarbi
07-11-2009
Originally Posted by stokesd3:
“I spoke to Humax CS about my 'HDMI mode not supported' problem yesterday and they confirmed the update should be out in 2 weeks ”

Full details here http://www.pvrjunction.co.uk/humax-a...ftware-update/
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