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Why doesn't Craig get the public vote?
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Orin
11-10-2009
Becuase he's rubbish on Corrie
claire2281
11-10-2009
I just got annoyed with his apparent inability to even attempt to get the frame right. What on earth were his arms doing? Surely they should have improved a little by now? I find that very frustrating to watch because he seems to have the potential to improve but he's going no where.

Next ballroom dance he should be practising with a broom handle through his tee shirt...
SaraV1308
11-10-2009
I think its a bit harsh to say he has no chemistry with Flavia.

You are never going to see anything like the chemistry/connection from Flavia that you saw when she was dancing with Matt for the simple reason that she was so smitten with Matt (and he with her) that it became impossible to hide. And this year is the first year you have seen Flavia dancing with anyone but someone older and not lasting beyond the first week. I actually think Craig does feel uncomfortable getting close to Flavia and for an actor I find this weird because as an actor he ought to be able to get over this. They seem to be getting on quite well in the training room (no better or worse than the average celeb except for those with romantic agendas) but Jan is right in that he doesn't fit into any of the stereotypical sections to get a fan base....

He is not a comedian, sportsman, duffer, he doenst have a national vote (ie the Welsh), and they do seem to fall through the cracks. We have also NOT seen them on any BBC programme except ITT... no appearances on BBC Breakfast etc and I do wonder if the fact that he is from a soap on the other side (ITV) that there doesnt appear to be any active PR for them from the strictly stable... Lets face it even though Ricky Whittle is from "another channel" he seems to be constantly in the headlines for the costumes, (or the lack of), fitting issues, thongs etc...
lizzydripping25
11-10-2009
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“I don't think he and Flavia have much chemistry when dancing together, and I think that's one of the main problems. His confidence seems to do him in a bit, too... I'd like to see a rehearsal version of his dances to see how well they do when not on the floor.”

I agree with this - Flavia isn't my favourite professional anyway - but I think this point is a good one. She never has much to say when they are on ITT etc.

Originally Posted by boddism:
“Joe gets the sympathy vote in buckets (and the Welsh vote too according to some on here!)

Jo gets the middle aged womens vote.... (and boy, are THEY a force to be reckoned with on Strictly)

Craig isnt that famous to begin with... I dont watch Corrers- is he a big/charismatic character on there??

He's low profile, plus lacks charisma on the show, hes kinda one of those celebs you tend to forget about. Plus he looks so damned UNCOMFORTABLE whenever he dances...

So I think this all add up...

I give him 2 more weeks- max!”

I don't think his character on Corrie is a particularly good or strong one - may be that's why.

However, he was specifically told to keep his right arm UP last night in the dance off and he DIDN'T - which I found very annoying!
sadmuppet
11-10-2009
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“Craig is falling through the cracks.....

He isnt a funny guy/entertainer on the dance floor
He isnt a hunk
He has nothing in his dances that stand out
He doesnt have a big fan base like Joe (no idea who is voting for Jo)

All of this might be overcome if he had any personality and chemistry with Flavia but he doesnt. He seems a nice guy but thats as far as it goes.”

Originally Posted by Xassy:
“He has no chemistry with Flavia, he's awkward to watch and he doesn't have a massive personality to compensate. I imagine he'll be in the dance off next week because the public will continue to vote for Jo and Joe, even though they are clearly awful.”


These sum it up!

Far from wanting to vote for him, something about him just makes me want to give him a slap.......
ESPIONdansant
11-10-2009
He is a bit of a wet weekend.
Jan2555*GG*
11-10-2009
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“He is a bit of a wet weekend.”

Yes I think that just about sums him up.

Very sad because I am pretty positive he is a lovely man.
missfrankiecat
11-10-2009
I really like Craig as an actor but he looks totally uncomfortable dancing. I have to say the basic flaws in his frame at this stage are shocking and do make me wonder if Flavia has her priorities right as a teacher. She has done some pretty off the wall choreographies for a beginner (that tango for eg) which other pros would have been hammered for, while not getting to grips with the basics of dance instruction. Poor tactics imo.
Ms_Conscrewed
11-10-2009
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“He is a bit of a wet weekend.”

Sums it up for me too. All the charisma of a brick which surprises me because I love him in QaF.
ESPIONdansant
11-10-2009
He was lovely in QaF and good in Hotel Babylon too.
So he's a good actor but a bit of a wimpy-Wendy in real life?
soneil
11-10-2009
Craig's acting is WAY better than his dancing. And he's not really that good of an actor...
Magic Girl
11-10-2009
I just think he's a bit blah.
lemonnlime09
11-10-2009
I think the main problem with Craig is he lacks any personality whatsoever.I have never seen such a dull celeb on the show,and he just makes up the numbers.I don't think it helps that Flavia is a bit of a non personality,wich may make it harder for her celeb to have chemistry with her if she dosn't interact with them.I find Flavia technically brilliant but so serious and not much fun......she will never get further in the show unless she learns how to connect,and help her celeb realise they need to have fun and not be so serious.
lizzydripping25
11-10-2009
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“I really like Craig as an actor but he looks totally uncomfortable dancing. I have to say the basic flaws in his frame at this stage are shocking and do make me wonder if Flavia has her priorities right as a teacher. She has done some pretty off the wall choreographies for a beginner (that tango for eg) which other pros would have been hammered for, while not getting to grips with the basics of dance instruction. Poor tactics imo.”

Originally Posted by lemonnlime09:
“I think the main problem with Craig is he lacks any personality whatsoever.I have never seen such a dull celeb on the show,and he just makes up the numbers.I don't think it helps that Flavia is a bit of a non personality,wich may make it harder for her celeb to have chemistry with her if she dosn't interact with them.I find Flavia technically brilliant but so serious and not much fun......she will never get further in the show unless she learns how to connect,and help her celeb realise they need to have fun and not be so serious.”

I would have to agree with you both - its a combination of the points you both make.
carol north
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“I really like Craig as an actor but he looks totally uncomfortable dancing. I have to say the basic flaws in his frame at this stage are shocking and do make me wonder if Flavia has her priorities right as a teacher. She has done some pretty off the wall choreographies for a beginner (that tango for eg) which other pros would have been hammered for, while not getting to grips with the basics of dance instruction. Poor tactics imo.”

I have to agree with you there regarding his frame I have never seen anyone dance the way he does as Arlene said in her column on Monday he could have been leading a Mule around not one of her favourite dancers.

It does seem shocking that after all these weeks his frame is so bad and if that is not put right there is not much hope of improvement.
welwynrose
14-10-2009
I had no idea who Craig was before the show started and haven't found him at all interesting to watch since the programme started
The_abbott
14-10-2009
Craig and Joe are possibily the most boring two celebs on SCD EVER!
jjackson42
14-10-2009
I think Craig may be one of those people who it takes a lot to get to know!!

That makes it tough for Strictly, where they need to build up a quick response with the audience. ( i.e. like Phil)

Its probably make-or-break this weekend.

JJ
Bhoy1888
22-10-2009
Originally Posted by jjackson42:
“I think Craig may be one of those people who it takes a lot to get to know!!

That makes it tough for Strictly, where they need to build up a quick response with the audience. ( i.e. like Phil)

Its probably make-or-break this weekend.

JJ”

I think he is starting to endear himself to the public.As someone else said earlier he must have finished at least 5th last week to escape the bottom 2
frell-tastic
22-10-2009
Because he's as dull as a dish cloth!
Bhoy1888
22-10-2009
Originally Posted by frell-tastic:
“Because he's as dull as a dish cloth!”

Look please give your opinion by all means but don't insult the man like thats.Its not clever and its not nice
carol north
22-10-2009
Originally Posted by Bhoy1888:
“Look please give your opinion by all means but don't insult the man like thats.Its not clever and its not nice”

Gosh where have you been thats quite mild. Try the numerous Ricky Whittle threads for insults also Tess amongst others!!
Bhoy1888
22-10-2009
Originally Posted by carol north:
“Gosh where have you been thats quite mild. Try the numerous Ricky Whittle threads for insults also Tess amongst others!!”

Sorry but i have lots of nice dish cloths that I an friends with and adore and I don't see why they should be used in such a negative manner on this forum juts for you to make a point about Craig

The_abbott
23-10-2009
I'm embarrassed for him when he "dances". Flavia looks like she wants to have an early shower too.
Lorelei Lee
23-10-2009
As much as I admire Flavia as a dancer and think there is every chance she is a lovely person, she strikes me as the kind who is quite hard to get to know.

Matt Di A was a 'heart on his sleeve' type and really brought Flavia out of her shell, but I don't think Craig is that kind of person and the mismatch in their personalities is leading them to be quite awkward on the floor.

I don't think Craig has an overinflated idea of what he can do, nor do I think Flavia is just phoning it in this year (as some accusations have declared) - I just think that this uncomfortable feeling is magnified 100x when they get under the cameras.
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