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Why doesn't Craig get the public vote?
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katmobile
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by Lorelei Lee:
“As much as I admire Flavia as a dancer and think there is every chance she is a lovely person, she strikes me as the kind who is quite hard to get to know.

Matt Di A was a 'heart on his sleeve' type and really brought Flavia out of her shell, but I don't think Craig is that kind of person and the mismatch in their personalities is leading them to be quite awkward on the floor.

I don't think Craig has an overinflated idea of what he can do, nor do I think Flavia is just phoning it in this year (as some accusations have declared) - I just think that this uncomfortable feeling is magnified 100x when they get under the cameras.”

I agree I remember when people commented on the couples at the start that the Craig/Flavia paring just mind end up not being very interesting as they seem to be both quiet/reserved people in contrast with the Vincent/Natalie pairing where they both flirt with each other and seem to be having a good time. It's telling that very often successful partnerships on SCD consist of at least one exhuberant individual to bring out the personality of the quieter one. I thought he'd be a better dancer because he wasn't someone you'd think of being rubbish but he obviously isn't. I'm not sure the fault is with her as a teacher as all the V/F fans who have been to their sessions say they are both very good teachers. I wonder if the faults have been that Flavia was so determined not to get knocked out first this year she may things a bit hard for Craig at first and he's lost confidence as a result. However he claimed he was happy doing the jive and foxtrot and they weren't very good.
CaroUK
23-10-2009
They are two similar dullish personalities who have been put together.

With different partners it may have been a completely different story - put dull Craig with a livewire partner like Lilia (or in the past Karen/ Camilla) who ALWAYS gets the best out of her celebs no matter how bad they might be, and he may have lit up the ballroom....

Flavia always comes across as a bit intense in her interviews, and apart from her partnership with Matt (for obvious reasons!) has never done well in the competition with early baths in every series apart from his. She might have done well with one of the livelier celebs (like Tuffers or Chris?).

I'm sure they are both nice, kind and well meaning people in real life - but on SCD they are the Meh! partnership this year.
Bhoy1888
23-10-2009
Do you think that if Craig can mantain the public support to keep him in till Blackpool then his confidence will grow?

I think there is a 30+ dance inside Craig and I honestly think if he can just get his confidence up then He is as good as the chasing pack behind Ali & Ricky,I seen nothing in the rest of them that makes me think they are that much better than Craig
HeidiB
23-10-2009
Craig doesn't get the public vote because he can't dance, is not good looking, and perhaps,like me,a lot of viewers had never heard of him before SCD started.
StrictlyRed
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by Bhoy1888:
“Do you think that if Craig can mantain the public support to keep him in till Blackpool then his confidence will grow?

I think there is a 30+ dance inside Craig and I honestly think if he can just get his confidence up then He is as good as the chasing pack behind Ali & Ricky,I seen nothing in the rest of them that makes me think they are that much better than Craig”

Clearly it's not only Craig that is deluded
Bhoy1888
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Clearly it's not only Craig that is deluded”

So who apart from Ricky and Ali are that much better than Craig?.

I coincide that at the moment there is a few dancing more constantly but I don't see any of the rest of them that far ahead of him?
soapgirlhere
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by HeidiB:
“Craig doesn't get the public vote because he can't dance, is not good looking, and perhaps,like me,a lot of viewers had never heard of him before SCD started.”

I beg to differ !
claire2281
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by Bhoy1888:
“So who apart from Ricky and Ali are that much better than Craig?.

I coincide that at the moment there is a few dancing more constantly but I don't see any of the rest of them that far ahead of him?”

Virtually all of them bar possibly Jo.

Everyone else has a decent frame and top line for a start.
kaycee
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by HeidiB:
“Craig doesn't get the public vote because he can't dance, is not good looking, and perhaps,like me,a lot of viewers had never heard of him before SCD started.”


You've hit the nail, Heidi!

When the series first started, I thought he's very nervous, give him the benefit of the doubt..... but if anything he has gone downhill.

If he is in the bottom 2 again this week, I don't think he will be saved as everyone else - including Jo - is better than him. The only exception might be Leila as she has got to teach Anton the samba!!!!!!!!!
Bhoy1888
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Virtually all of them bar possibly Jo.

Everyone else has a decent frame and top line for a start.”

So is Phil that much better than Craig.I see he has been slightly more consistent so far BU I reckon there is a possibility that Craig could get a higher score than Phil this week.

I see Ricky Groves as very hot and cold and don't think its impossible to see Craig ahead of him

I also think after a great start Chris (who I also have a wee bet on by the way) not being as good as he was...

Need I go on
kaycee
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by Bhoy1888:
“So is Phil that much better than Craig.I see he has been slightly more consistent so far BU I reckon there is a possibility that Craig could get a higher score than Phil this week.

I see Ricky Groves as very hot and cold and don't think its impossible to see Craig ahead of him

I also think after a great start Chris (who I also have a wee bet on by the way) not being as good as he was...

Need I go on”

No fan of Phil, but yes, he is a lot better than Craig.
Bhoy1888
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“No fan of Phil, but yes, he is a lot better than Craig.”

He is at the moment dancing better but not that much better that its impossible for Craig to out dance him this week
SideshowStu
23-10-2009
Craig's only hope imo is if he gets on top of the nerves that have beset him since the start. The trouble is, they look like they're getting worse rather than better...I can't see him surviving much longer tbh.
footygirl
23-10-2009
Isn't it possible that he could get a big sympathy vote tomorrow- their samba didn't look too good
SideshowStu
23-10-2009
From what I've seen of the Sambas there's going to be more than one couple in need of a bit of sympathy
FlaviaCacake
23-10-2009
He's rubbish. And, frankly I dont think he is a better dancer than Jo or Joe. They both improved where as Craig is still stinking up the dancefloor
icequeen
23-10-2009
I dont think Flavia seems to like him that much and I think it shows.....
Paace
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by FlaviaCacake:
“He's rubbish. And, frankly I dont think he is a better dancer than Jo or Joe. They both improved where as Craig is still stinking up the dancefloor”

That is very harsh and unnecessary criticism of Craig. People like Craig, Phil, Cris etc are what SCD is all about. Ordinary people who've never danced before trying to learn and master Ballroom and Latin. It's a bonus when you get exceptional people like Ricky and Ali to whom dancing comes naturally.
FlaviaCacake
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by Paace:
“That is very harsh and unnecessary criticism of Craig. People like Craig, Phil, Cris etc are what SCD is all about. Ordinary people who've never danced before trying to learn and master Ballroom and Latin. It's a bonus when you get exceptional people like Ricky and Ali to whom dancing comes naturally.”

Chris and Phil are decent dancers. I wouldnt mention them in the same sentence as Craig. His hold is shocking. It seems to be indredibly wide and dont forget he's dancing with five foot nothing Flavia; so why his hold is so wide is beyond me. His foot work is incredibly pedestrian. He's looking at Flavia while he's dacning and not looking over her shoulder. Its just plain bad. Where as Phil and Chris look quite comfortable in hold and have relatively good footwork.
Bhoy1888
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by icequeen:
“I dont think Flavia seems to like him that much and I think it shows.....”

The most outrageous comment I have ever heard on this board?

Unless you are a personal friend of Flavia how can you possible justify a comment like that?

From what basis have you come to this conclusion? Please explain more as I am willing to be won over by you if you can persuade me?

PS I actually think Tess doesn't seem to like Bruce very much.?
FlaviaCacake
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by Bhoy1888:
“The most outrageous comment I have ever heard on this board?

Unless you are a personal friend of Flavia how can you possible justify a comment like that?

From what basis have u come to this conclusion? Please explain more as I am willing to be won over of you can persuade me?

PS I actually think Tess doesn't seem to like Bruce very much.?”

I agree. She seems to be doing the 'You made yourself laugh' line virtually every week.
Bhoy1888
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by FlaviaCacake:
“I agree. She seems to be doing the 'You made yourself laugh' line virtually every week.”

Sarcasm I presume like myself
carol north
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by FlaviaCacake:
“Chris and Phil are decent dancers. I wouldnt mention them in the same sentence as Craig. His hold is shocking. It seems to be indredibly wide and dont forget he's dancing with five foot nothing Flavia; so why his hold is so wide is beyond me. His foot work is incredibly pedestrian. He's looking at Flavia while he's dacning and not looking over her shoulder. Its just plain bad. Where as Phil and Chris look quite comfortable in hold and have relatively good footwork.”

Have to agree with you there. Phill is a good dancer just think he needs to put a bit more effort in. Chris is a really good dancer but he does have trouble remembering the steps which is a shame really.
Bhoy1888
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by carol north:
“Have to agree with you there. Phill is a good dancer just think he needs to put a bit more effort in. Chris is a really good dancer but he does have trouble remembering the steps which is a shame really.”

Yes and if Craig didn't get so nervous then he too would be as good as them
carol north
23-10-2009
Originally Posted by Bhoy1888:
“Yes and if Craig didn't get so nervous then he too would be as good as them”

Sorry he would not as he just cannot dance and he looks flat footed and very akward to watch. Not saying he is not a nice guy though!!
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