This faux outrage is hilarious, as hilarious as the faux rivalry between the judges.

Dannii is not homophobic! How can she be, her fan base is majorly gay, so is her sister's, and she dresses like a bad drag queen. Lou-lou has been so called by the judges and all sorts of people for ages, plus Simon once made a very laboured joke when a lady called Dorothy was auditioning that she must be a friend of Louis's because Simon had heard he was a friend of Dorothy. It's called banter, not bullying, Louis gives as good as he gets and he loves the attention - it's producer-driven - Cheryl squabbles with Simon, Dannii squabbles with Louis and Louis squabbles with Simon, it's all planned.

Dannii only made a legitimate point with Danyl, she meant it humorously, it fell flat and then was worse after Simon made her repeat it. Danyl outed himself, he's press-released on his sexuality, she just asked him a question why he couldn't sing the song as written because it would work for him.

Offence is given where it's taken. You can't adopt it by proxy. If neither Louis nor Danyl are bothered by the remarks and they both know Dannii, then why should anyone else be.

I agree.
How was that not obvious?

This is ridiculous.

And very entertaining. I'm bisexual and I don't think Dannii is remotely offensive or homophobic.

Some people just have nothing better to do than be hyper sensitive and extraordinarily politically correct. Seriously, get over yourself.

Dannii and homophobe don't go in the same sentence. Just look at her career, the charities she supports and her main target market. Silly people complaining about something they know nothing about.

It's Danyl you ignorant piece of garbage.

I noticed that too! As I said before- if she wants to upset the gay community, she's stupid as without them Kylie wouldn't have a career!

Horse dung when you take what I say out of context: Before being gay was legal, people were beat up and blackmailed and put in jail (with hard labour) by the state, on a regular basis just for being gay. If you are Gay then you owe your freedom and rights to those pioneering gay people that you now find acceptable to ridicule. How dare you condone the ridicule of any person about their sexuality.


Err.. where... when did Danni say this ? You fool. If you can't be factual be silent. (If you can call me pretentious the I can call you fool)


I have reported Danni to Ofcom. WHAT exactly have you done (other than to spout off here) about the issues of education, the court system, and religious groups that you say YOU feel strongly about? I bet you have done nothing Except condone Danni's outrageous behaviour.



Does YOU being bisexual, make you an authority or something on discrimination, or is it just your opinion as a Danni fan? You should get over yourself with your self appointed bisexual qualifications.

Tell me, as a bisexual, what snide comments do you find acceptable when being referred to. Hmm? For example maybe you think its ok for a member of staff on supermarket tanoy to point you out ...there's a Mr or Miss in Aisle 4 looking at and feeling up the fruit. ha ha ha. ....

That's just in a supermarket. How would you feel if that or anything else people found amusing was said to you at work, or say, in front of 15 million people - with friends, work colleagues, your parents and family watching. Well that's what happened to Danyl and The Miss Walsh comment to Louis is the same thing. Weather Louis is out or not is irrelevant - why should his sexuality be something to be ridiculed.

I think we are living in an age where a person's sexuality is not as important as it once was. Yes there will always be bigots..about sexuality, race, creed, colour...but I would not count Dannii Minogue amongst them. Her comments were meant in a humorous way, and neither Danyl nor Louis seem at all bothered by them. Sometimes we can be a little too pc, which, if anything, sets progress toward equality back a little.

Danyl seemed not bothered by them because he wants to win the show.

Yes, Danni has gay credentials but that isnt a passport absolving her of crassness. She "outed" him to 12 million people thoughtlessly. I dont think straight people know how damaging it is when an associate outs you beyond your control especially to the nation. My belief is that she is so gay-friendly that she thinks she can get away with such remarks.

Your poinbt about Louis not being bothered. I've seen him seriously rattled by Simons remarks before and now Danni is joining in. Thats a slippery slope because if it becomes the norm then problems occur. I have a friend who lost a 40K job due to homophobic bullying which started off with "friendly banter"

The comments of being a little "too PC" strikes me that the poster has never been a victim of prejudice before. If you have then PC is a good thing and the 'Too PC' line is trotted out by those who find it an inconvenience or cant face the face that their gender/sexuality/race are the perpetrators.

Cold hard facts but true.

PC gone mad. I hate that term usually but I definatly think it applies to this thread.

What Dannii said to Danyl was inappropriate and I'm glad she apologised, even if she didn't mean it in the same way it sounded

Though to bring up the Miss Walsh comment? Jeez, what is the world coming too. We can't even say the slightest thing without offending someone. Soon we'll all be silent robots pandering to the easily fragile community.

Dermot, Simon and Sharon have all made comments about Louis being a woman. Not that he literally is. It's just dry humour which Louis has taken on the chin.

And to call Dannii homophobic is ridiculous. She is a massive supporter of gay rights and has been for years, long before her stint on the x-factor.

Talk about a storm in teacup!

Just becausse she is a supporter of gay rights she doesnt get an automatic pardon for saying such a thing. Her comments had nothing to do with Danyls performance.

Quite frankly, she should have known better.

Unlike you, I have a sense of perspective. I also accept that people can make errors.



She did not - it was sarcasm. Perhaps you should look it up in the dictionary. It was taking the mickey out of one extremely silly statement made, by you.

"To all those that defend bullying, snide remarks, and homophobic comments. Do you know that one of the most reported crime to the Police is harassment against Gay people. (and most gay crime goes unreported) Do you know how many people were put in prison by the state and have been injured and killed just for being gay ?

For injustice to thrive it only takes good people to do nothing!"

Your use of emotive, hysterical language was completely over the top. You linked it to hate crime, not me. So who is the fool?



Oh thank you, thank you, thank you. I am sure that will solve everything. OFCOM will end homophobia in the UK. You are indeed a hero. (Just in case you don't know, that is sarcasm) I have been involved in my local LGBT group for years - I have been involved in campaigning since I was 16 - as has my family. I have been on Pride marches, I have travelled the country to take part in protests. Don't tell me I do nothing. So you lose that bet. I see that comment as insulting. Isn't it funny how you criticise others for being insulting while you do the same.


If anyone needs to get over themselves I suggest the use of a mirror. What gives your opinion any more merit than this poster other than your own sense of self importance? Simply because he disagrees with you does not remove their right to an opinion.


Interesting that you picked up on this and seem to have missed every other jokey comment from the other judges and hosts over the past five series. Why are you so appaled when Louis himself does not appear overly bothered? Or is it a case that you are desperate for something to beat Dannii with?

Anything to hate Dannii eh?

Dannii is merely having banter with Louis since they're friends. Like Louis and Simon have banter (though its love there ). The idea of Dannii being homophobic is completely laughable.

1 - He may not be openly gay but anyone who thinks this guy is straight needs their head checking.

2 - Cowell has made a thousand jokes over the years about his campness.

3 - Daryl, is actually Danyl.

Absolutely And I stated in this thread that her comment was uncalled for, inappropriate and that she deserves a telling of for Simon and that she should rightfully apologise to Danyl. However I have to laugh at the accusations that she’s homophobic, considering where she stands on gay rights, honestly. I’m not suggesting that because she supports gay rights that she has free rein to say what she wants because she doesn’t. However Dannii made one inappropriate comment (which I believe had no malice behind it, though it was uncalled for – no arguments from me there) and people are hanging her for it. I mean look at some of these comments in this thread… Jeez. Anyone would think she had made a statement about hating gays!

At the end of the day, she apologised for it yesterday and made herself clear by what she meant. She felt she could say that comment because in her words, herself and Danyl have laughed about it. She didn’t think she was offending him when she said that, though she realises now that she may have offended a greater number of the community. Was it appropriate? Hell no. She should have known better, period! It was ignorance on her part. Should the berating of Danni’s comments be put to rest? Yes. She made a mistake and personally, while I think it was wrong, I think the amount of criticism she’s getting for it is unjustified. JMO!

lol, looks like the OP has gone fishing and hooked a few big ones!

Original post

If you read your original post. You say:-

..."If you want to get on your high horse start campaigning to deal with the real issues - the education of the young, the very iffy treatment by the courts and the outdated approach of religious groups.

I asked you WHAT you have done in the issues of education, the courts, and religion. The causes YOU allegedly feel strongly about. The Answer appears to be NOTHING!

AND, you have a cheek asking me to support YOUR alleged causes when you do nothing yourself.


Ofcom can impose fines and can control unacceptable behavior on TV. Jonathan Ross hasn't repeated his stunt with Andrew Sacks has he?. Ofcom are the right body to complain to. Anyone who feels that the snide put downs are not fair on anyone then don't tut or complain to your friends - complain to OFCOM and do something positive.


When snide remarks are given to anyone - THEY ARE SNIDE. They are given with the intention to belittle the victim. There is nothing funny about that.

If you condone bullying then you are a fool. Jokey jibes, jokey comments is only a "euphemism" for bullying. On Sunday Dannii didnt appogise for a "jokey comment" Danni apologised for "OFFENDING" people. Even Danni recognises that what she said was offensive -

Despite Danni benefiting financially from the Gay community throughout her career - THIS is how she really is - and you a gay man condone her ridicule of your own sexuality, and shrug it off as a harmless. To dismiss the the rights you enjoy... which OTHERS have fought for and you take for granted is a true FOOL.

He should just called her Mr. Minogue

I believe in equality thats why I won't be complaining to offcom because theres nothing to complain about. You really need to read Danyl's comments about the matter. She wasn't belittling him she was merely supporting him, she even said his performance was brilliant before that! It was made worse by Simon making her repeat it, which imo was wrong because he knew it was going to cause an uproar so why make her repeat it. Simon should be blamed as well through making her repeat it and overreacting, which made the public react. He realised this and apologised for it.

What a load of rubbish. Simon AND Dermot have made jokes about Louis sexuality, i remember comments made last year and nobody cared. Why all the fuss now??

Because she's clearly homphobic and they're having a joke. Something Dannii doesn't do. (obviously I don't believe that)

I think Sharon was a lot worse to Louis yet you can't seem to say a bad word against her.

The problem is that in Dannii's cloistered little world all the gays she knows probably run around calling each other 'she' and 'her' and 'miss' and think it's hysterically funny. Well it's not. In fact the vast majority of gay people probably don't act that way, and yet Dannii think she's 'pro-gay'. How patronising.

Eh, exactly where is the 'joke'? When the X Factor ever gets a black judge does that mean Dermot and Simon can make snide comments about their race?

I never made the 'jokes', I never said whether it was funny or not. They made the comments/jokes or 'snidey' comments, as you see them. I just wondered why it was okay for them to make those types of comments but then everyone pounces on Dannii when she does.