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Old 11-10-2009, 14:02
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'The Late Paul Barnes', BBC Cambridgeshire, Essex, Kent, Three Counties, Suffolk, Norfolk & Northampton, focussed on Harlem Stride piano last night.

Paul - an expert presenter - who should be on Radio 2 - highlighted the music of James P Johnson - the pioneer piano professor, who lies in an unmarked grave. A fund raising concert was held in the USA to buy a headstone for this important musical figure.

James P composed 'The Charleston' which inspired the dance craze of the 1920s. He influenced Fats Waller, Count Basie and many other stride piano players.
Barnsey featured a selection of tracks by Johnson, Waller, Basie and Art Tatum.

As much a part of the show was PB's informed commentary which perfectly complimented the music.

Other offerings on the 2 hour show included The Charleston Chasers - a current British Orchrestra, performing classic jazz and hot dance music from the 20s and 20s and Martin Litton's trio arrangement of Jelly Roll Morton's, 'The Pearls', from the new 'Ragtime Revisited' DVD/CD box set.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=.../1/euQaMe6G2uo

The Late Paul Barnes is available on BBC Iplayer at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p004mb7j
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Old 11-10-2009, 15:30
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Yes, John. We know you think Paul Barnes should be on Radio 2. You've said dozens of times that you think Paul Barnes should be on Radio 2. You've also said dozen of times that Paul Barnes' playlist should be part of Radio 2's daytime playlist. I think we get the message, John.

That said, Paul Barnes isn't on Radio 2 and there's very little chance that he will be hired by Radio 2.
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Old 11-10-2009, 16:36
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That said, Paul Barnes isn't on Radio 2 and there's very little chance that he will be hired by Radio 2.
PB is employed by BBC Radio Norfolk so its unlikley to be asked as his show doesnt fit in R2's new remit
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Old 11-10-2009, 16:43
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Yes, its a good show.
But what I think will make it better is, a bit of Happy Hardcore and Thrash Metal thrown in, just to widen peoples musical tastes, y'know.
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Old 11-10-2009, 16:44
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PB is employed by BBC Radio Norfolk so its unlikley to be asked as his show doesnt fit in R2's new remit
Radio Norfolk are more than welcome to keep Paul Barnes; Radio 2 doesn't need him.

I understand Barnes' shows have been cut anyway. This must tell Mr Petters something: Barnes' programme is not as popular as it used to be, otherwise it wouldn't have been tampered with.
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Old 11-10-2009, 16:47
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I understand Barnes' shows have been cut anyway. This must tell Mr Petters something: Barnes' programme is not as popular as it used to be, otherwise it wouldn't have been tampered with.
Its part of a load of changes currently taking place within BBC Local Radio
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Old 11-10-2009, 16:48
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Its part of a load of changes currently taking place within BBC Local Radio
What? You mean BBC Local Radio is finally being kicked into the 21st century?!
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Old 11-10-2009, 16:55
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'Other offerings on the 2 hour show included The Charleston Chasers - a current British Orchrestra, performing classic jazz and hot dance music from the 20s and 20s and Martin Litton's trio arrangement of Jelly Roll Morton's, 'The Pearls', from the new 'Ragtime Revisited' DVD/CD box set.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=.../1/euQaMe6G2uo

The Late Paul Barnes is available on BBC Iplayer at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p004mb7j
Enjoy!
John

This is a forum about radio. Why are you using it to plug your own products?
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Old 11-10-2009, 16:55
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Yes, its a good show.
But what I think will make it better is, a bit of Happy Hardcore and Thrash Metal thrown in, just to widen peoples musical tastes, y'know.
I doubt that will happen. BBC Local Radio isn't that musically open minded, which is why most BBC Local Radio stations are so bland.
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Old 11-10-2009, 17:00
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I doubt that will happen. BBC Local Radio isn't that musically open minded, which is why most BBC Local Radio stations are so bland.

Have you not hard of BBC Introducing then? Almost every local radio stations has a remit to break new music in some way. I would refer you to The Beat which goes out on BBC LR across the East Midlands on Saturday nights for started. Many new contemporary bands and more than the occasional exclusive. For instance : the only radio interview with Michael Stipe the last time REM did a European tour.
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Old 11-10-2009, 17:03
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Have you not hard of BBC Introducing then? Almost every local radio stations has a remit to break new music in some way. I would refer you to The Beat which goes out on BBC LR across the East Midlands on Saturday nights for started. Many new contemporary bands and more than the occasional exclusive. For instance : the only radio interview with Michael Stipe the last time REM did a European tour.
That's a very good thing. Last time I tuned into BBC Eastern Counties, Richard Spendlove was on playing the kind of music the two Johns like. It was awful.
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Old 11-10-2009, 17:04
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What? You mean BBC Local Radio is finally being kicked into the 21st century?!
You would be suprised what plans they have in store
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Old 11-10-2009, 17:06
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You would be suprised what plans they have in store
Well it's about time BBC Local Radio was hauled into the 21st century. Most of the programming is geriatric and way past its sell buy date.

BBC London is a prime example of what BBC Local Radio should sound like.
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Old 11-10-2009, 17:07
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Have you not hard of BBC Introducing then? Almost every local radio stations has a remit to break new music in some way.
Roy Waller has fallen victim of the changes, I wish Lesley Dolphin was shown the door along with Mr Murphy on Suffolk
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Old 11-10-2009, 17:08
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Well it's about time BBC Local Radio was hauled into the 21st century. Most of the programming is geriatric and way past its sell buy date.
I concur with you in part
BBC Essex is currently being re-vamped as their daytime format needs it badly
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Old 11-10-2009, 17:10
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Roy Waller has fallen victim of the changes, I wish Lesley Dolphin was shown the door along with Mr Murphy on Suffolk
And how many awards has Mark Murphy now won then? Must be doing something right.
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Old 11-10-2009, 17:11
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I concur with you in part
BBC Essex is currently being re-vamped as their daytime format needs it badly
Does this mean no more stupid phone-ins about gardening?
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Old 12-10-2009, 02:02
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Well it's about time BBC Local Radio was hauled into the 21st century. Most of the programming is geriatric and way past its sell buy date.

BBC London is a prime example of what BBC Local Radio should sound like.
Oh Dear Scott, is there nowhere on DS that is free from your repetitive circular remarks?
I'd have thought this was a thread which had no interest at all for you!
There is certainly nothing geriatric about the Barnes show, the coverage of which was extended by two stations - BBC Kent and BBC 3 counties in the recent reshuffle of local radio.
It remains a beacon of excellence for devotees of good intelligent creative music that matters.
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Old 12-10-2009, 19:52
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Oh Dear Scott, is there nowhere on DS that is free from your repetitive circular remarks?
I'd have thought this was a thread which had no interest at all for you!
There is certainly nothing geriatric about the Barnes show, the coverage of which was extended by two stations - BBC Kent and BBC 3 counties in the recent reshuffle of local radio.
It remains a beacon of excellence for devotees of good intelligent creative music that matters.
John,

You need to take a step back and read your own circular postings. If you're not bleating on about Paul Barnes, you're complaining about Radio 2's music policies!
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Old 18-11-2009, 19:26
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Well I think it is worth recording anywhere that Radio folk maybe that The Late Paul Barnes is an excellent programme, worthy of national radio.

He is obviously a jazz and band music specialist and expert of the pre 60's era and consequently of interest to those whose early years were marked by radio being the main medium of entertainment. As those reach their oldest years 80+ and dementia arises as it does for 25% at that age, radio can again be a source of comfort, enjoyment and most of all stimulation.

This is the generation whose childhoods were dominated by the after effects of WW1, then the recession of the thirties before they were caught up in WW2, yet they are mostly cast aside.

PB used to broadcast for three hours a week from 6 pm. He has now been cast aside to 11 pm for 2 hours. Fine for me but 80+'s are hardly internet savvy.

So yet again they are pushed aside.

The prog that has replaced PB by presented by Colin Berry is pap.

So, I believe that if we really care about the most senior of our citizens we should try to get "their" music on easily found conventional national radio during the day not around midnight.

Just before the late night switch I recall a letter from a widow with a list of the tunes from her courting years in the forties. PB worked through some of them over several weeks, and everyone was happy.

So lets hear it for bring back Paul Barnes to a daytime national programme and lets have a few more of those progs brought into the daylight hours from late Sunday night Radio 2.
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Old 18-11-2009, 20:01
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Have you wondered why Paul Barnes was moved from 6.00 - 9.00pm Saturdays to 11.00pm - 1.00am? Perhaps Paul was not pulling in a good audience.

During one of her many appearances on Radio 4's Feedback programme, former Radio 2 Controller Lesley Douglas said thorough research is conducted before schedule changes take place.

The BBC would not simply move Paul Barnes to a later slot without a very good reason. If research showed that a huge percentage of listeners would listen to BBC Local at 6.00pm Saturdays if Barnes was replaced with a modern programme then schedule changes will take place in response to this.

In 2004 when Desmond Carrington was dropped from Sunday lunchtimes on Radio 2 after 23 years, listeners lodged complaints with the BBC and Radio 4's Feedback programme. Carrington was replaced with Elaine Paige and some lsteners were alienated. Lesley Douglas said Carrington was removed because core daytime audiences were alienated by his presence and playlist.

I suspect this is why Paul Barnes was moved to a pater slot on BBC Local.
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Old 18-11-2009, 20:41
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Have you wondered why Paul Barnes was moved from 6.00 - 9.00pm Saturdays to 11.00pm - 1.00am? Perhaps Paul was not pulling in a good audience.

During one of her many appearances on Radio 4's Feedback programme, former Radio 2 Controller Lesley Douglas said thorough research is conducted before schedule changes take place.

The BBC would not simply move Paul Barnes to a later slot without a very good reason. If research showed that a huge percentage of listeners would listen to BBC Local at 6.00pm Saturdays if Barnes was replaced with a modern programme then schedule changes will take place in response to this.

In 2004 when Desmond Carrington was dropped from Sunday lunchtimes on Radio 2 after 23 years, listeners lodged complaints with the BBC and Radio 4's Feedback programme. Carrington was replaced with Elaine Paige and some lsteners were alienated. Lesley Douglas said Carrington was removed because core daytime audiences were alienated by his presence and playlist.

I suspect this is why Paul Barnes was moved to a pater slot on BBC Local.
Lesley Douglas many appearances on Feedback?

I seem to remember that there were complaints that she seldom went on that programme.
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Old 18-11-2009, 20:44
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Lesley Douglas many appearances on Feedback?

I seem to remember that there were complaints that she seldom went on that programme.
Lesley Douglas failed to appear each time Radio 2 fell under the spotlight on Feedback. Sometimes David Barber appeared on her behalf.
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Old 18-11-2009, 20:49
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Lesley Douglas failed to appear each time Radio 2 fell under the spotlight on Feedback. Sometimes David Barber appeared on her behalf.
Yet in your post of 20.01 you say the opposite.
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Old 18-11-2009, 20:52
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Yet in your post of 20.01 you say the opposite.
No I haven't. I said Lesley Douglas appeared on Feedback many times; I did not say she appeared everytime.

Lesley was not always available.
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