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Nearly 4000 complain to Ofcom over Dannii remark!
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Margo Channing
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Release Me:
“They have every time to complain because it was a disgusting comment to make, no need for her to make remarks regarding someone's sexuality. The British public have spoken so Simon do the honorable thing and replace her.”

Get down off the cross love theres always someone else needing the wood.
merlinvdm
14-10-2009
Is there somewhere I can write to complain about the morons that continually feel it necessary to make a big deal about nothing?

If these people don't like what they are seeing, they can 'vote with their feet' and watch something else. Otherwise they should get a life and just let things be.

I cannot believe the hype from Ofcom complaints over the past year or two. From the Johnathon Ross/ Russell Brand thing, to Chris Moyles comments on R1, Big Brother when Marcus had a go at Sree (for being a ****, not for being of a different nationality) and a bunch of others in between.

There are thousands of TV channels, radio stations and many other forms of entertainment for people to enjoy. If they don't like what they see on one show, then find another one.

When things like this happen it is so obviously a personal attack on the presenter/ personality in question. And more often than not it is simply fueled by jealousy that someone they don't like too much is earning more or is more famous than them.

There should be measures put in place for wasting the regulator's time.

If you called the police over such a stupid incident you would be done for wasting police time, so why should Ofcom or anyone else be any different? It might make people think twice about the validity of their complaint before making a pest of themselves.
cheekychopz
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Release Me:
“They have every time to complain because it was a disgusting comment to make, no need for her to make remarks regarding someone's sexuality. The British public have spoken so Simon do the honorable thing and replace her.”

You still find it a disgusting comment even when the people involved have explained themselves and also apologised for any offense caused? You and the British public don't seem to be very forgiving. Thankfully it is not your decision but Simon Cowell and the producers of the show who are forgiving and would like the issue closed.

Perhaps look at your own self and wonder if you made a mistake would you like your livelihood destroyed because of it, even after an explanation and apology and also the party involved having no hard feelings about it?
urt31
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Release Me:
“They have every time to complain because it was a disgusting comment to make, no need for her to make remarks regarding someone's sexuality. The British public have spoken so Simon do the honorable thing and replace her.”

I assume Cheryl should be replaces also for her comment rgarding Kandy Rains sexuality?
Green Goddess
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by merlinvdm:
“Is there somewhere I can write to complain about the morons that continually feel it necessary to make a big deal about nothing?

If these people don't like what they are seeing, they can 'vote with their feet' and watch something else. Otherwise they should get a life and just let things be.

I cannot believe the hype from Ofcom complaints over the past year or two. From the Johnathon Ross/ Russell Brand thing, to Chris Moyles comments on R1, Big Brother when Marcus had a go at Sree (for being a ****, not for being of a different nationality) and a bunch of others in between.

There are thousands of TV channels, radio stations and many other forms of entertainment for people to enjoy. If they don't like what they see on one show, then find another one.

When things like this happen it is so obviously a personal attack on the presenter/ personality in question. And more often than not it is simply fueled by jealousy that someone they don't like too much is earning more or is more famous than them.

There should be measures put in place for wasting the regulator's time.

If you called the police over such a stupid incident you would be done for wasting police time, so why should Ofcom or anyone else be any different? It might make people think twice about the validity of their complaint before making a pest of themselves.”

have we ever heard anything like this on the X factor before? if so enlighten me please, if not why would we expect to tune in and witness what some thought was a personal attack on Danyl...

People have every right to complain and in the instance of Ross and Big Mouth they were very right to imo.
cheekychopz
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Green Goddess:
“have we ever heard anything like this on the X factor before? if so enlighten me please, if not why would we expect to tune in and witness what some thought was a personal attack on Danyl...

People have every right to complain and in the instance of Ross and Big Mouth they were very right to imo.”


Sharon Osborne made a vicious personal attack on Steve Brookstein live on the show, she referenced things the public were not aware of and what happened backstage. She was back as a judge the next year.
researchshirley
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Green Goddess:
“I get what you are saying, and you have slightly mis read me, my kids have always known, my best friend is gay and lives just down the road, so all three have known and it never had to be explained

Sadly you know there are parents out there that know no such people, and have kids they have to explain these things to, I simply asked the poster what he considered a suitable age, and for me it should come from parents if possible, not school, where sniggering goes on in such lessons.. and I know that first hand! and certainly not from TV show judge making some "mucky" comment which is what it seemed at the time, enough to make people complain.



It would also be a dreadful slur would it not if the guy was not bi-sexual or gay, as much as it is an insult I would think to call a gay person straight! You miss my point again, I had no idea that Danyl had "half come out" as you put it, which I find a bit of a slur and homophobic, why only HALF whats the other half doing??? or are you insinuating he is saying he is bi-sexual and lying about it...

I like a few others thought Dannii was saying things that were nasty, untrue and to get him out the show.... thats the final line of it, maybe that clears up my thinking for you. I thought the guy was straight the fact he is not makes no difference to me as he will still be getting my vote each week.”

The sooner people normalise the existence of gay people in society as their children grow up the better. The sniggering that goes on in lessons comes from the fact that so many children grow up being made to think that anyone who doesn't fit into a very narrow demographic is "different". The responsibility for changing this doesn't just lie with parents, it lies with schools and society as a whole. The fact that you refer to Danni's comment as "mucky" speaks volumes really. I'm sure you're much less homophobic than many but some of your comments suggest that you have a way to go with this.

Despite my username, I am a gay man and no, I'm not offended if people think I'm straight because I don't see that as a slur. Sexuality isn't a slur. Call me a thief or a racist or a liar or a misogynist and I'll be offended because those things are negative. Neither being gay nor being straight (or bisexual) are "negative" so there's no logic in that for me.

I say "half out" because I know several people who know him well and no mention of attraction to women has ever been made. He's probably under enormous pressure from the show's makers (and society/the record-buying public) and I feel for him on that score.

Danni may not be the greatest comedian but she is the least homophobic person on that panel (possibly even including Louis!)

The gender specificity of song lyrics is always an intriguing issue. Even Will young, who has been out for years generally chooses not to refer to anyone directly as male in any of his songs about love/relationships. Why is that? Homophobia (or fear thereof).

It's good to hear that you'll vote for Danyl regardless of his sexuality. I hope many people follow your lead (and I'm not a fan personally.)
Agent F
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Green Goddess:
“have we ever heard anything like this on the X factor before? if so enlighten me please, if not why would we expect to tune in and witness what some thought was a personal attack on Danyl...

People have every right to complain and in the instance of Ross and Big Mouth they were very right to imo.”

It's just a bit sad, really. Were you that offended? Really?
Viridiana
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Green Goddess:
“I get what you are saying, and you have slightly mis read me, my kids have always known, my best friend is gay and lives just down the road, so all three have known and it never had to be explained

Sadly you know there are parents out there that know no such people, and have kids they have to explain these things to, I simply asked the poster what he considered a suitable age, and for me it should come from parents if possible, not school, where sniggering goes on in such lessons.. and I know that first hand! and certainly not from TV show judge making some "mucky" comment which is what it seemed at the time, enough to make people complain.


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But that;s exactly the problem. There is no suitable age, Kids need to know that are same sex couples at exactly the same time that they understand that heterosexual relationships exist. Plus young kids would never in million year would understand what the hell Danii was talking about, or even the fact that she made a off hand remark.

I wonder if some people will complain to the police if a gay couple kisses in front of their kids and they feel "forced" to explain to their kids that homosexuality exists. Homophobes, (and i'm not referring to you, it's just same post) , always hide behind their children, It's still the accepted face of homophobia. One of the posters that complained, complained exactly for the children's "sake"
Viridiana
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Release Me:
“They have every time to complain because it was a disgusting comment to make, no need for her to make remarks regarding someone's sexuality. The British public have spoken so Simon do the honorable thing and replace her.”

What disgusting comment? What did she say about his sexuality that was demeaning in any way? It's funny that everyone talks about what she implied but no one Knows what the exact insult was...Unbelievable.
grimtales1
14-10-2009
I agree with Agent F, Simon's reaction was hostile and OTT and suggested Dannii wanted to sabotage him ("Stop playing games" etc).
Snozzcumber
14-10-2009
Can we please ship the brave, morally upright 4000 off to the Falklands or something so the rest of us can be left in peace? God knows they make a racket.
Snozzcumber
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Green Goddess:
“No I do not agree with you, it was already an issue, the audience reacted and Simon knew it, so he reacted, wisely or unwisely. You go and listen to what she says and how the audience react. And I reacted long before Simon did, and so did my son, he was like what did she just say, like me he thought she was being nasty and trying to make accusations, and not all of the GBP are gonna google it and see what it is all about... they just log on and google up ofcom instead.”

No, it wasn't. Watch the clip again. Simon barks "what?!" before Dannii's even finished her sentence, allowing no time for the audience to react. They might have booed a little or cheered for Danyl, but instead there's an uncomfortable silence.
trevalyan
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Release Me:
“They have every time to complain because it was a disgusting comment to make, no need for her to make remarks regarding someone's sexuality. The British public have spoken so Simon do the honorable thing and replace her.”

don't be so ridiculous!!!

she was trying to suggest he shouldn't have changed the lyrics if he didn't want to, just to conform. she was being supportive and encouraging him to be himself.
hannahb39
14-10-2009
These people need to get a life. What exactly is their complaint? People misinterpreted what Dannii meant.

This situation is ridiculous.
jagged_death
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by urt31:
“I assume Cheryl should be replaces also for her comment rgarding Kandy Rains sexuality?”

I know, surely its much worse to suggest that someone looks like a slapper than to mentioned that someone is gay when that information is already in the public domain. Unless of course you think that being gay is something people should be ashamed of.

I can only assume that the people who complain are people who would feel gravely offended if they were called gay and therefore are outraged by Dannii comment all the while forgetting that Danyl is already out and that in fact being gay/bi isn't anything to embarressed about in the first place.
Kablamo
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Oh for goodness sake...



http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/home/c...006830.article

I hope it doesn't. That's pathetic. These people need to get a grip and stop crying to Ofcom at every flamin' opportunity. It might seem like a good idea at the time but it just ends up giving people an unnecessarily hard time and Dannii Mingoue is the last person who deserves that.

I really hope the shit doesn't hit the fan after this.”

This is idiotic!

I'm going to contact Ofcom and tell them, "I was quite pleased Dannii made that comment. It was not only inoffensive but it's tactless innocence opened up debate without any abrasion amongst my well honed academic colleagues"

YES!
wolfpaw
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by jagged_death:
“I know, surely its much worse to suggest that someone looks like a slapper”

Except, in Kandy Rain's case, they were
jaybs
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by marianner:
“Danyl is cool with Dannii”


Don't you seriously think Cowell will not have Instructed Danyl to take that line!
Dan S
14-10-2009
These people who complain are determind to ruin TV arent they
duncann
14-10-2009
Maybe it's 4,000 BBC employees hacked off they are getting trashed in the ratings by X Factor! Or maybe the other judges rang in 1,000 times each!
feisty
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by broadshoulder:
“4000 people who are right. She shouldnt have said it.

If people were offended by it they have every righ to complain. I'm glad she didnt get away with it.”

Probably 99.9% of these people didn't even know Ofcom or it's functions existed until the furore on Big Brother with Jade and Shipla...sad times when more people vote on reality TV than general elections...I wonder what % of the 4000 exercise their right to vote in matters that really matter....I somehow feel it will be be nearing the end of zero
jagged_death
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by wolfpaw:
“Except, in Kandy Rain's case, they were”

Even if that was true, it's also true that Danyl is bisexual, has said so in a national newspaper and also said its not something he is ashamed about.
_drak
14-10-2009
I think OFCOM should have an IQ test on their site before allowing you through to the complaints form.
Psychosis
14-10-2009
Originally Posted by Green Goddess:
“have we ever heard anything like this on the X factor before? if so enlighten me please,”

Every week people say negative, personal, rude things about the contestants. I would consider the things Cheryl and Louis said about Danyl much, much, MUCH worse than what Dannii said. Because Dannii didn't say anything negative.
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