Originally Posted by Green Goddess:
“I get what you are saying, and you have slightly mis read me, my kids have always known, my best friend is gay and lives just down the road, so all three have known and it never had to be explained
Sadly you know there are parents out there that know no such people, and have kids they have to explain these things to, I simply asked the poster what he considered a suitable age, and for me it should come from parents if possible, not school, where sniggering goes on in such lessons.. and I know that first hand! and certainly not from TV show judge making some "mucky" comment which is what it seemed at the time, enough to make people complain.
It would also be a dreadful slur would it not if the guy was not bi-sexual or gay, as much as it is an insult I would think to call a gay person straight! You miss my point again, I had no idea that Danyl had "half come out" as you put it, which I find a bit of a slur and homophobic, why only HALF whats the other half doing??? or are you insinuating he is saying he is bi-sexual and lying about it...
I like a few others thought Dannii was saying things that were nasty, untrue and to get him out the show.... thats the final line of it, maybe that clears up my thinking for you. I thought the guy was straight the fact he is not makes no difference to me as he will still be getting my vote each week.”
The sooner people normalise the existence of gay people in society as their children grow up the better. The sniggering that goes on in lessons comes from the fact that so many children grow up being made to think that anyone who doesn't fit into a very narrow demographic is "different". The responsibility for changing this doesn't just lie with parents, it lies with schools and society as a whole. The fact that you refer to Danni's comment as "mucky" speaks volumes really. I'm sure you're much less homophobic than many but some of your comments suggest that you have a way to go with this.
Despite my username, I am a gay man and no, I'm not offended if people think I'm straight because I don't see that as a slur. Sexuality isn't a slur. Call me a thief or a racist or a liar or a misogynist and I'll be offended because those things are negative. Neither being gay nor being straight (or bisexual) are "negative" so there's no logic in that for me.
I say "half out" because I know several people who know him well and no mention of attraction to women has ever been made. He's probably under enormous pressure from the show's makers (and society/the record-buying public) and I feel for him on that score.
Danni may not be the greatest comedian but she is the least homophobic person on that panel (possibly even including Louis!)
The gender specificity of song lyrics is always an intriguing issue. Even Will young, who has been out for years generally chooses not to refer to anyone directly as male in any of his songs about love/relationships. Why is that? Homophobia (or fear thereof).
It's good to hear that you'll vote for Danyl regardless of his sexuality. I hope many people follow your lead (and I'm not a fan personally.)