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Anton's Jiving (merged)
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Fleckerl
18-10-2009
I've always thought that he shouldn't be on this program. Yes, his ballroom is exquisite but his latin is appalling. I know that all the pro dancers have a weak dance, but they manage to cover it up really well. Anton's partner is always at a disadvantage because of his extreme lack of ability on latin.
TylerTango
18-10-2009
Can I just say Laila looked gorgeous last night ;D?
Anyway, Yeah. He looked dreadfull. At times he was WORSE than Laila, which is a shame because she has what it takes to be a potential winner. I think he's gonna do a dreadful samba. Hopefully they get the Rumba soon or something soon because I think Laila could ace that as well as Rachel did..
LazySusan
18-10-2009
He was awful wasn't he? Poor Laila I feel so sorry for her. His samba was also pretty awful.
Alanadale
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by Seymour:
“It was the worst jive of the night, and I thought Laila was slightly better than Anton, the bare chest didn't help last night.”

Anton was clearly out of his comfort zone , no wonder Laila was struggling poor lass your professional partner Anton appeared to be struggling with his own steps I was embarrassed for him
Aeryn
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by boddism:
“sorry- but that was my gut reaction tonight. No wonder poor Laila's dancing in her Jive was so terrible (and it was AWFUL) I remember the judges saying "Your ballroom is better than your latin" and I thought "Hmmm- I wonder why??"”

I have to agree with you. I didn't know who was worse, Laila or Anton. It was shocking to watch!
dinosaur05
18-10-2009
It was a total fiasco.

I think of the male pros who are already out (Matt, Darren) and am sad that they never got a chance at a decent partner.

People have been complaining for years that Anton keeps getting duff partners. This is why.
He cannot choreograph or dance Latin numbers well and he appaers to be unable to teach them well either.
Well, if he is back nect year he should be back to the oldies as he is slowly proving he cannot produce good latin routines.

He was extremely annoying last night as he constantly interrupted Tess and the judges to blather on and try to be funny.

Past his shelf life.
LazySusan
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by dinosaur05:
“He was extremely annoying last night as he constantly interrupted Tess and the judges to blather on and try to be funny.
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And he tried to blame Laila for his shortcomings.
Abbasolutely 40
18-10-2009
It was hard to know which was the pro in that dance last night
F1JHerbert
18-10-2009
With Anton, i thinkj he is great. But Latin isnt his 'thing', he's far better with the Ballroom. He always looks 'odd' doing Latin.
*stargazer*
18-10-2009
I love Anton's ballroom but Latin is not his thing. Which is strange because his pro partner Erin is good at it.
Xassy
18-10-2009
What annoyed me was that he seemed to treat the whole thing as a joke. He looked like he didn't put much effort into it, which was unfair on Laila.
tonydancer
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by LazySusan:
“And he tried to blame Laila for his shortcomings.”

Erm...it's called irony, Susan.
Starry_Sky
18-10-2009
You're right - he was awful. My friend's a professional dancer and she was really shocked by how bad his dancing was. He was probably playing it down a bit so as not to make Laila look bad but his posture was all out and his footwork was terrible.
joe2cool
18-10-2009
I agree didn't realise he was so bad, as said couldn't tell who was professional. Guess he's not used to getting so far in the competition
tobykim
18-10-2009
I don't think it was dreadful, I think the plot was lost quite early in the dance so he did the best he could. It was obvious that the dance hadn't been choreographed and was just off the cuff.

It's to their credit that they were able to carry on and make something out of it, goodness knows what half of us posting on here would have done in the same situation, maybe we'd have just sat on the steps
boddism
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by dinosaur05:
“It was a total fiasco.

I think of the male pros who are already out (Matt, Darren) and am sad that they never got a chance at a decent partner.

People have been complaining for years that Anton keeps getting duff partners. This is why.
He cannot choreograph or dance Latin numbers well and he appaers to be unable to teach them well either.
Well, if he is back nect year he should be back to the oldies as he is slowly proving he cannot produce good latin routines. He was extremely annoying last night as he constantly interrupted Tess and the judges to blather on and try to be funny.

Past his shelf life.”

I think its highly unlikely he will be back next year.....

Hes just past it, plus Strictly could do with a new male pro- after constantly changing female pro....

I hope Brucie goes with him too..... I was pretty gobsmacked that he didnt jack it in lst year tbh.....

I think when you've had your feet under the table too long you dont know when to quit, and you wont listen to people telling you to either...
flowerpowa
18-10-2009
They were both completly out of step with each other, the music didn't help either.
Cent
18-10-2009
It looked a bit too slow to me.

Do you think they had to slow it down and that is why it looked odd?
stanm
18-10-2009
In my opinion more of the celebrities in this series are affected by 'nerves' than in any other series.

Laila lacks confidence in all dances. That is why she makes the mistakes in routine in ballroom.

It is worse in Latin because she has convinced herself that she can't cope!

Anton needs to find a way to help Lailla make a breakthrough in her mental attitude: otherwise she will get worse and go out quite quickly.
Vodka_Drinka
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by boddism:
“I think its highly unlikely he will be back next year.....

Hes just past it, plus Strictly could do with a new male pro- after constantly changing female pro....

I hope Brucie goes with him too..... I was pretty gobsmacked that he didnt jack it in lst year tbh.....

I think when you've had your feet under the table too long you dont know when to quit, and you wont listen to people telling you to either...”

Brucie will not go unless he is pushed imo. He is far too arrogant to admit that he just cant hack it anymore.

Anton needs to go and be replaced with a more able pro. Im sorry but ive watched his dances back again just now and they were even worse second time around. Dreadful. I dont care how good he is at ballroom, the strictly pro's need to be all rounders and he's not one.
lori
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by verrence:
“My impression was that he realised that Leila had lost the plot and did his best to keep her dancing SOMETHING which resembled a jive - in fact, I really admired him for getting her to move around the floor for the rest of the session!

I don't think he was dancing badly, but he had to adjust to her movements and try to make it look as little like a disaster as possible.”

yep thats exactly what happened.

i thought they did well just to finish.

laila was mortified when it was over.
lori
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by LazySusan:
“And he tried to blame Laila for his shortcomings.”

actually i think you will find that it was laila he was sticking up for.

anton was probably telling laila to just do anything until the music stopped.

laila got it wrong from the start ,then lost it completely.
ealingkid
18-10-2009
I feel really sorry for Laila.

Would she really be rubbish at latin if she were with ANY of the other male pros?! I find it really hard to imagine her not doing a decent job with anyone else.

Anton is not just crap at latin, he completely destroyed her confidence as well. All through the week he was joking about how bad she was. Any other pro would have been constantly telling her she CAN do it, and doing their best to make sure she nailed it.

As has been said above, its all a relfection of his incompetance, not hers. He doesn't like latin and he dragged her down with him.

Also, its not as if any of the latin specialists are in any way bad at the ballroom. Poor Laila really did draw the short straw.
kaycee
18-10-2009
Anton's ballroom is OK - the reason he looked so good when Strictly started is because all the other male pros are Latin specialists, but during the years they have been in the show, Matt, Ian and Brendan have all improved their ballroom to a really good standard.

Anton, however, has done nothing to improve his Latin; he was bad in series 1, and, instead of getting himself some proper training, seems to have gone steadily downhill. His jive last night was the worst dance I've ever seen by a pro dancer.

His posture, footwork, and even his timing were all wrong. And was he so late arriving at the studio that he didn't have time to change out of his street clothes?

And he's no gentleman to stand there smirking while poor Leila had to listen to that diatribe from the judges for something that wasn't her fault. She was hardly going to be able to learn to jive from someone who can't dance it himself.
Vivacious Lady
18-10-2009
Although I wasn't expecting much it was certainly much worse than I thought it would be.

My guess is that his latin, which was never great, has got worse when compared to SCD 1, because he doesn't do much teaching nowadays and so may rarely dance latin (whereas before SCD started he may have had teach it on a regular basis, even though his specialism was ballroom). (Apologies if someone has already posted this)
Last edited by Vivacious Lady : 18-10-2009 at 15:58
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