Other thread for some reason is not viewable for me Basically there are a few white label hip hop records i am looking for. Usually the best place to find them is just by going through all the sites i can find but i cant find them at all. Are there any good sites out there or am i better waiting till nearer Christmas and seeing if any second hand copies come up anywhere?

www.decks.de

www.web-records.com

Have you tried any of those? I've had some white labels from these before! (there is another and as soon as I remember, I'll post it)

Only found one so far and it is 10 Euros plus 5 Euros postage. I hate paying it now but maybe sold out for Christmas? It is from 2003 so maybe never get the chance again. Not sure what to do.

Best place to find vinyl is in someones house who bought music in the 60's and 70's. Never bought into the argument that music sounds better that way. As for D.J's, put all your mixes onto your ipod and jobs done. It is that simple even I can do it and I am no tech wiz.

Depends how rare it is, I have quite a few rare white labels and limited edtion vinyls from the 90s. Let me know what the vinyl is and I'll see if I can find it for you!

Used to have a brilliant shop near me called Beanos but it has closed down now, another fantastic shop which has now closed was The Vinyl Resting Place.

Try www.musicstack.com, www.gemm.com and www.eil.com (EIL is quite expensive, though).

Then the usual... www.ebay.co.uk

It is a Killah Kuts vinyl and the songs are Bully (Clean,Dirty versions) and the B side is Monkey See Monkey Do (Clean, Dirty versions) from 2003 and the catalogue number is TKK 1721.

The other features 3 artists DMX, Eminem and Obie Trice and is called Go To Sleep (Clean,Dirty, Instrumental versions). The song was released from the film soundtrack Cradle 2 The Grave. No catalogue number is known or even the artist it is under so makes any online searches even harder or it could be like Killah Kuts vinyl were only the song name is mentioned.....artists are NOT mentioned. Very hard to find promo from 2003 and have only seen a handful on ebay over the years.

Other vinyl is by Eminem and has the song Nail in the Coffin on the A side and The Sauce on the B side. I think only the main versions are on this vinyl however a version was ripped and put on the internet in 2004 featuring Clean, Dirty and Instrumentals mixes of Nail In The Coffin only.

Why do i want them if they are white labels? To fill the collection. For these records these are the only releases to feature genuine clean versions and the real official instrumentals. That in itself makes them official as only the actual labels could supply these versions.I want to own the actual vinyl and keep the sound quality for myself rather than the.....terrible copies appearing online. I left it too late to buy them and i didn't keep up with buying the promos as they were getting released so now i am having to go back and slowly rebuild and fill in the blanks in my collection and some......i doubt i will ever get now.

Beanos has closed? As in Beanos Croydon? When did that happen,I knew there were rumours of it closing for ages.

Not many record shops standing at all these days.

The days of standing in record shops going through the racks is nearly at an end, very few proper record shops about these days. Mail orders ok etc , but nothing quite beats the fun of going through rack upon rack trying to unearth something that you like , but have never been able to get.

Yep, as in Beanos Croydon Don't know when exactly but I went in last year and they had closed the upstairs department and rented it out as an indoor market because they were having financial troubles and when I went back a few months ago, it was closed down totally. I guess that industry is suffering heavily with the digital thing going on and add the recession to that, I suppose they had no choice. Sad though, I've spent countless hours in that shop collecting rare vinyls and international imports - that shop was like a den for music fanatics.

iamhuman, sure thing! When I get home this evening I'll have a look for you. Finding rare music is a speciality of mine

They might be used, but you can get vinyl records off eBay. Not sure how good the variety is as I haven't really spent much time browsing through them.

As people have said, eBay is a godsend for vinyl. I've collected my fair share of punk and rock records off it, generally with good success.
Maybe try Banquet Records in Kingston: http://www.banquetrecords.com

Sad to learn Beanos has gone,I spent many an hour in there browsing and bought quite a bit from them (and sold quite a few things to them as well). Last time I went in the upstairs was closed off as it was undergoing yet another refit....they seemed to be constantly refitting one floor or another,a bit like painting the Forth bridge. Wonder what happened to all the stock in the end........happy memories.

Maybe the 2 of you could meet up for some kind of reunion? Stand outside the closed shop and light a candle perhaps?

They actually flogged a lot of the rarities on EBay. Kind of ironic really. There was a very good article in "Record Collector" about 6 months ago when it finally shut. I remember that it was about the only reason I ever went to Croydon when I lived in London. Couldn't do it too often as it was just too tempting

How much would record stores usually pay for records when buying? I have a few spare records which are still sealed although not really rare since they are from around 4 years ago and just a few 7" singles from the past few years that i have as spares to my actual playing copies. I'd rather have the money than have them lying there or maybe even trade them for other records.

There's a very, very good record shop in Brick Lane

Thanks for the big tip! Better write that one down incase i forget lol.

Aww i guess JoJo failed and couldn't find them and is now too embaressed to return to this thread

I've found some good stuff on www.eil.com

As a general rule second hand dealers will usually pay no more than half the current market value,and of course this will depend on the condition of the record. Remember though that artists can fall in and out of favour and become more or less collectable,so you're not going to get very much for a Joe Bloggs single when Joe Bloggs is an act that hardly anyone is interested in collecting. You also need to consider the number of copies in circulation,some records are worth very little because so many copies were sold at the time and they are still easy to track down. On the other hand if it was a limited edition or sold poorly and only a handful of copies are known to have survived then you can be talking silly money. Ultimately though any record is worth only as much as someone is willing to pay for it.

There are some vinyl shops in Soho central London.

Berwick street has at least two.

Oh well these are pretty mainstream artists at the time although the ones that are sealed i got from the US. I don't know how many vinyls get sold over there or over here. Having a quick look on Ebay USA brings up 2 promo copies and only one retail sealed copy but as you say that doesn't mean they are worth anything now. I bought them in a bulk lot which worked out at around 99p each so i was happy if i could have just made the money back that i paid.