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Craig and the bush kangaroo, lol
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soulmate61
17-10-2009
Who do you side with,

Craig saying what he felt like?

Or Brendan walking off as he felt like?
Neon_Blaster
17-10-2009
Brendan is a cock who acts like a ten year old.
Vincy82
17-10-2009
Its what Brendon does every year just so he stands out. Its all a ploy to make him look the the big I Am.

Brucie telling Craig off made me chuckle, he was all stern - see, he even makes me laugh when he's being serious.

Anyway, Brendan is a p**ck!
JethroUK
17-10-2009
Originally Posted by Neon_Blaster:
“Brendan is a cock who acts like a ten year old. ”

Nothing new there then

Actually dont think Brendan adheres himself to the public very well which will always be a hurdle to his celebs success

I think he thinks he is courting public sympathy but quite the reverse - he just looks like an tonk

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riff
17-10-2009
I don't see what the problem was with what Craig said.

Len said later on to someone that they were skipping too much and Bruce said it was a good point. That's the point Craig was making about Jo (in his own way)

If you can't take the criticism you shouldn't really be on the show.
gig-ge-dy
17-10-2009
He probably flounces out the bathroom the same way if his missus moans about him leaving the cap off the toothpaste. There's a certain irony in his being a bigger drama queen than Craig.
Icarus17
18-10-2009
I think the only people that could find what Craig said offensive are those who didn't get the reference to Skippy the Bush Kangaroo (and it's hardly surprising if Bruce didn't get the reference, less so for Brendan to fail to do so and storm off). The criticism of Viennese waltzes being too skippy is the most common criticism that I have heard of the dance in Strictly, and Craig in my view just chose a gently whimsical way of saying that.
tobykim
18-10-2009
Brendan knows exactly what he's doing, he got through didn't he (although he didn't look excited at the prospect) it's all a ploy to get votes, people think that by voting for him they are annoying the judges
tootsieroll
18-10-2009
I love Craig, and how's his comment about Jo's movement being like a kangaroo worse than Bruno comparing her movement to a grasshopper? Craig knows what he's talking about, and if people can't take the criticism, then buck up and improve (or buck off IMO).

My favourite's Ali, and the judge's weren't particularly complimentary of her tonight, but the attitude from her was totally different (taking on board criticism and promising to better herself).

How's Bruce's comment about Ali's relationship with Brian just before the she danced any less 'personal' than Craig's comment on Jo's dancing?
soulmate61
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by riff:
“I don't see what the problem was with what Craig said.
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The problem was unfair exaggeration.

Jo was skippy, but so was Phil to a degree. Bruno's simile of a grasshopper was fair enough, but Craig went beyond constructive criticism towards mocking and hyperbole, accusing Jo of a sin she did not commit. Jo did not hop like a kangaroo.

Mark took the gibe of stick insect on acid without reaction, and some might say Mark condoned it. Brendan's response was a model of moderation.

Jan Ravens went up to Craig afterwards and spat at him. Those who live by the sword die by the sword.....
verrence
18-10-2009
I wish Craig had been allowed to finish his comments, instead of being the subject of what I thought was an unfair and biased attack on him. He's had a few encouraging words to say to Jo on previous shows and even pointed out that her VW wasn't too bad, but she needed to replace the "skippiness" with smooth action on It Takes Two. I would like to have heard the rest of his critique.

For goodness sake, her dancing was horribly skippy and how was his remark worse than Bruno's? Neither of them was "personal". We've all heard far more pointed and painful remarks on previous shows and I actually took objection to Bruce's comments about Ali and Brian, which I considered rather unpleasant.

I'm tired of the audience being encouraged to drown out Craig's remarks, when the other judges seem able to say whatever they like with far less reaction.
Georgiecats
18-10-2009
The trouble is Craig is so acid tongued he can't say what he wants to say without sounding like he's being really nasty.

Brendan should have stayed and listened to the rest of the judges comments instead of stalking off as that was disrespectful for Jo too. Bruce made Craig look like an idiot anyway, she didn't need Brendan making it a big thing. She's not a mouse.

I thought she did quite well in the waltz tonight, it suited her quite well. Easier for her to hang onto her partner but she is trying.
katmobile
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“The problem was unfair exaggeration.

Jo was skippy, but so was Phil to a degree. Bruno's simile of a grasshopper was fair enough, but Craig went beyond constructive criticism towards mocking and hyperbole, accusing Jo of a sin she did not commit. Jo did not hop like a kangaroo.

Mark took the gibe of stick insect on acid without reaction, and some might say Mark condoned it. Brendan's response was a model of moderation.

Jan Ravens went up to Craig afterwards and spat at him. Those who live by the sword die by the sword.....”

And those who can't take the heat should get out of the kitchen. It's a competition which is judged on DANCING and if you are not allowed to critise someone then what's the point? I can't stand people who get precious about criticsm when they are putting themselves out there and your comparison to Jan Ravens is a valid one as I couldn't stand her attitude either. Craig's comments were no more personal than Bruno's and later on Alesha compared Laila to a drunken ragdoll - it's a part of what you are going to get on the show and you just have to suck it up just as the judges have to suck up people who are rubbish being voted back in by the public. I suppose for me the liking of Brendan this year couldn't last and it was only a matter of time before he behaved like a prat again.
Kaos
18-10-2009
I get the feeling that Brendan and Craig don't get on much. I'm not saying I totally agree with Brendan walking off but he's more prone to talking back to Craig after his comments if he doesn't like it and maybe by walking away he thought he was doing the right thing. Atleast he took Jo with him. In the past he probably would have walked off without his partner.

I feel Brendan walking off was Brendan being Brendan it was Bruces reaction that I didn't like. Craig wasn't being personal and there was no need to talk to him the way he did.
hoggies
18-10-2009
Am I really the only one who thinks Brendan "escorted his partner from the floor" - he didn't flounce! He just didn't want Jo to be subjected to any more disheartening comments. Surely it was more dignified than to stand there and enter into a slanging match with Craig.

I know Jo was skippy, but I enjoyed their VW much more than Natalie's. At least there was an element of gracefulness about Brendan and Jo and I think the judges comments were too harsh.

The judges definitely have their favourites and Jo and Brendan aren't amongst them! Even when they criticise one of their favs (eg Natalie) they do it in a kind sort of way.

I'm not enjoying this season's SCD and for the first time ever I can honestly say that I wouldn't be bothered if I missed a programme. The magic's gone.
ESPIONdansant
18-10-2009
Brendan looked a fool.What else is new?
katmobile
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by Kaos:
“I get the feeling that Brendan and Craig don't get on much. I'm not saying I totally agree with Brendan walking off but he's more prone to talking back to Craig after his comments if he doesn't like it and maybe by walking away he thought he was doing the right thing. Atleast he took Jo with him. In the past he probably would have walked off without his partner.

I feel Brendan walking off was Brendan being Brendan it was Bruces reaction that I didn't like. Craig wasn't being personal and there was no need to talk to him the way he did.”

I agree and I was appalled with Bruce - he needs to go after that.
ESPIONdansant
18-10-2009
Bruce should have supported Craig.
If the judging panel aren't permitted to judge honestly then scrap them.
It wasn't an unkind remark.
Liz G-S
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by hoggies:
“Am I really the only one who thinks Brendan "escorted his partner from the floor" - he didn't flounce! He just didn't want Jo to be subjected to any more disheartening comments. Surely it was more dignified than to stand there and enter into a slanging match with Craig.

I know Jo was skippy, but I enjoyed their VW much more than Natalie's. At least there was an element of gracefulness about Brendan and Jo and I think the judges comments were too harsh.

The judges definitely have their favourites and Jo and Brendan aren't amongst them! Even when they criticise one of their favs (eg Natalie) they do it in a kind sort of way.

I'm not enjoying this season's SCD and for the first time ever I can honestly say that I wouldn't be bothered if I missed a programme. The magic's gone.”

I agree, I got the impression he swept her away to avoid her hearing further derogatory comments, after spending a week trying to build up her confidence. It wasn't done in an angry or hostile way - he then supported her backstage, the word ignorant would have been better left out but the rest was only about Jo.
I don't think it is a bad thing to have different personalities and Brendan brings something to the show. It would be boring if all were the same. It isn't as though it is a professional dance competition. However, Bruce's comments made the whole incident fell uncomfortable, but perhaps things had been going on before.

All things considered, I can imagine the producers were pleased to have a diversion in what had been a rather flat show up to that point. Their usual entertainer, Anton, has failed miserably in this role so far this year - at least for me he has become rather irritating.
Fleckerl
18-10-2009
I didn't see the show last night but, at the start of SCD, I had a bet with myself about when Brenda would flounce off in a flurry of talcum powder. I picked week 6. Which week was last night please?
PrincessNidor
18-10-2009
I was not surprised by Craig comment or Brendon reaction - it was typical behavior for the both of them......and the show encourages them both to act like this. I didn't think either of them behaved that badly. Craig made a "slightly unkind remark" and Brendon tried to protect his partner and make a statement about what he thinks about Craig (at the same time). Both were unnecessary.

I think the producers feel it adds to the show. …Well we are all “talking” about it anyway!
Kaos
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“Bruce should have supported Craig.
If the judging panel aren't permitted to judge honestly then scrap them.
It wasn't an unkind remark.”

No Bruce should have stayed out of it let Brendan walk off and let Craig finish what he was saying and then gone on to the other judges. He didn't have to support anyone as at that time nothing had really happened other then Brendan walking away there was nothing to support.
missfrankiecat
18-10-2009
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“Bruce should have supported Craig.
If the judging panel aren't permitted to judge honestly then scrap them.
It wasn't an unkind remark.”

However, the sneering manner with which he delivered it and giggled at her, along with Bruno, I might add, was both unkind and unclassy. I thought Brendan did the right thing, removing a vulnerable woman from being exposed to ridicule without any comment.
ESPIONdansant
18-10-2009
To Kaos:
I agree.

I didn't mean overt words of support. Just carry on and don't acknowledge the flouncing off.
intj
18-10-2009
I actually referred to her as 'Skippy the bush kangaro' while she was still dancing! It was one of my fave programmes when I was young. I like Jo but if I'd been Craig I would have been tempted not to award a mark if they don't want to hear his critique.
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