She's definitely not a size 12. That's obvious to anyone with a working set of eyes.

I do think she has lost weight since the start though.

Normally we hear how much weight the celebs lose

Phil has lost 2 stone.

I dont care what size she is I just know I enjoy watchin her at the moment

As for whether it should be discussed, I think it should

Natalie is well known for losing weight and flogging a DVD, talking about dieting on BBC3 and then putting weight back on and spouting how much happier she was now being a larger size

FMs did not bring the subject of size up Natalie did so she opend the stable doors on this subject

If she keeps losing weight I just wonder how long it is before we get a spread in the mags about @how dancing slimmed me'

All the dancers I would say lose weight to varying degrees doing strictly.

Normally, I would agree that weight is neither here nor there, it's all on the dance ability, but Natalie's case is somewhat different. Hasn't she in the past released a weightloss DVD, thereby making money from other people's body image issues? Hasn't she also appeared on a number of chatshows to discuss her weightloss and subsequent regain? Hasn't she also on more than one occasion mentioned her size on SCD/ITT? She has therefore put this issue into the public arena and legitimised its discussion here.

That said, it's not implausible that she is a size 12. She's 5'2", TV adds 10lbs to you and she looks size 14/16 on screen. Zoe, by contrast is, say 5'6" or so and looks a size 10/12 on screen but I would imagine is a size 8/10 in real life. So if the added 10lbs can make somebody 4" or so taller add a dress size, then it's entirely possible that on somebody of Natalie's height it'd add a couple of dress sizes.

Probably a size 14 to 16 i would guess and I'm usually a pretty good judge of womans weights

Natalie Cassidy is such a strange mix of 'I really don't care about my weight' and 'Actually, hang on a minute, I really REALLY do'. I think the basic person's mind is pretty simple - on first impression of just purely looking at Natalie it would register 'Oh yes she's a fuller figured girl' after that one thought, I really wouldn't think about it again, even if she is prancing around on my telly every saturday in a tiny outfit. She's not on a sodding fitness show, or a weight loss show. She's on a dancing show, as long as she can do that, it's happy days for me.

Yet she's mentioned her size, certainly more than once and I wish she'd STOP, it only brings up thread like these and gives people an excuse to bash on about it. If she didn't care about her size, I don't think she'd mention it, same way I don't talk about the sky because, frankly, it's there, there's no hiding it and people will get bored of me and think it's weird if I keep bringing it up. YES her measurements are consistent with a size 12, and YES she does look like size 12 is the minimum she could be.

Are we the cause or the effect? Does Natalie Cassidy think we're all talking about it, so therefore she should too? Or do we keep talking about it so therefore Natalie Cassidy does aswell? Only one way to find out. Let's shut up and see.

I must admit, and I do like Natalie, that when she said that, I thought, size 12, yeh, right. Im pretty sure I wasnt the only person thinking or saying that at the time, who wishes they were. Her dancing was good

Clearly, Vincent is only 5'5". This means that Nathalie is smaller (bearing in mind she is wearing heels), so she is probably about 5'2" or 5'3". The shorter you are the smaller your size (e.g. she could be a chunky 12). I'm short and curvy and I'm a size 12, and I could never believe it when taller, slimmer people told me they were also a size 12. Also don't forget that sizes vary so much (I fit into 10's in some shops and I only fit into 14's in others - it's not a hard and fast rule).

It's definitely possible! I dont' know why they didn't do any lifts, as I personally think Vincent is strong enough to do them. Maybe she didn't feel confident enough to do them.

I think she is a great mover, and size in this case doesn't matter.

Totally agree with this post. So much so, I'd put money on it! Especially the January 'lets get the Xmas weight off' spreads we get in all mags/papers every year.

I think Natalie is great, and I also applaud her for showing that larger ladies can still make great movers on the dance floor, but no way is she a size 12.

I would say that was pretty spot on. I also agree with those who say she was the one who mentioned the size issue so I see no problem in discussing it. Yes , she has lost weight but still has a bit to go.

A few ardent fans seem to be getting their unmentionables in a bit of twist on this thread.
I just asked the question.
I'll ask another; If TV is supposed to make people look fatter than they are really, why doesn't it make thin people look fatter?

Fascinating that we find her square footage more interesting than her morals, talent, affinity with small animals and children.

Fascinating but sad.

On the page you linked I see 66, 64, 68, 60, 76, 72, 73...

Including 68 and 64 in respect of two outfits worn by the same woman (Laila) two weeks apart! These measurements mean nothing.

I couldnt give a hoot what size she is .I only know I dont enjoy her dancing and her over familiarity with the judges and Bruce bugs me
But it woud bug me if she were a 10 ,12 , ,or indeed and 18

Doesn't matter what size she is, what she's got, whether it be 12 or 16 (which is more likely imo) she's using it to good effect and is improving week after week

72, 72, 73, 76.
These are the waist measurements I picked up on the link - and they certainly don't relate to a size 12.

Perhaps those picking up measurements in the 60's confused Natalie Cassidy with Natalie Lowe.

A size 12 is listed as 27-29inches. 72-76 is approx 28-30 inches. The only 76 is her first dress. Her latest dresses are around a 28 waist.

What doesn't relate to a size 12?

The others are coming up as a low 8 to a mid size 10, which also seems realistic.

Why not just have the decency to believe someone when they tell you what clothes size they are?

Yes, that page does, but that page has mainly dresses for the celebrities on (there's more pages before it). I should have been more clear that I meant the whole collection. The dresses for the professional dancers seem to all have 25" as their measurement with a few exceptions (64cm), and I'd say that they're all different sizes, so I'm wondering whether they just make them as a particular size and as they're lycra based they stretch to fit if necessary.

With respect Dancemeister, we have eyes and she is clearly no size 12 .

I have eyes too and I have no issue believing her.

A little story... everyone pointed at Kelly Clarkson and laughed about how she must be a size 16-18 EASILY, and how they have EYES and she is clearly no size 10.

I'm a size 8. I had a photo taken with her and she was EXACTLY the same size and shape as me, just with a bigger bum and thighs.

TV and photos are extremely deceptive. Being next to Vincent is also a massive problem. If he were to wear women's clothes, he'd probably be a size 8-10 MAX which makes her look a lot bigger than she would with a bigger male pro.

It does. I met someone from a previous SCD recently, and was really surprised at exactly how small they were in real life. They had certainly never looked big on TV, but they were really tiny and delicate.