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Old 24-10-2009, 23:27
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well he says it wrong hence the [r]

anton's samba was really not good imo
three judges said the content was not good enough
he was silent when he usually all cheeky and chat and he basically blamed laial when it came to tess's question..

he never normally gets this far

is he finally exposed, would you say...
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Old 24-10-2009, 23:30
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yep - get rid and bring in another all-rounder. The "Latin Experts" ala James, Ian & Matt all do wonderful choreography for Ballroom, but Anton can't do the same for Latin. But can we please keep Erin? She's a great all-rounder!
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Old 24-10-2009, 23:38
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He has a decent partner this year and that is showing his latin up for what it is - bad!

I agree that Erin is great though. I wasn't sure about her music choice tonight but I think the singer did a great job and made it more 'Hollywood' than 'Cockney geezer' which in turn helped the performance.
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Old 24-10-2009, 23:44
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Anton would have got away with that routine in series 1 and 2.

But since then, his fellow pros have been choreographing much slicker, much more contemprary Latin routines.

Anton's style is quite old-fashioned (which works in his favour with the Ballroom). He's not very innovative.
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Old 24-10-2009, 23:50
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It looked more like the hustle or some kind of disco routine instead of a samba. Anton is really not good at latin at all. His jive last week was bloody awful and this was not much better. He's turning into an embarrasment.
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Old 25-10-2009, 00:40
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It looked more like the hustle or some kind of disco routine instead of a samba. Anton is really not good at latin at all. His jive last week was bloody awful and this was not much better. He's turning into an embarrasment.
Glad you said that! I was thinking there was alot of hustle in there but thought it was me!
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Old 25-10-2009, 00:44
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I feel bad for Laila because I think she would do better with a more versatile pro. Pity she didn't get Matt. Although, I'm not convinced that she would be good at Latin anyway, it would be interesting to see how she would do with another partner.

In response to the original OP, I think Anton has been exposed.
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Old 25-10-2009, 01:00
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I've been thinking the same (about him being terrible at choreography), he's always been given older celebs hasn't he? poor Laila. And he has absolutely no neck and a massive head which puts me off too.
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Old 25-10-2009, 01:00
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In response to the original OP, I think Anton has been exposed.
Completely agree - was really shocked at his Latin routines, and indeed his own performance in the last two weeks, shows how good the other pros are... Anton's "cheeky chappy" persona has also been seriously undermined in recent press reports too - to be honest, I really liked him in the earlier series but am now very tired of him and his ego. Replacement for Bruce? No way.
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Old 25-10-2009, 01:29
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Anton is terrible @ latin lets be honest. He is being exposed atm he needs to get some lessons off Matt asap.
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Old 25-10-2009, 01:41
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I feel bad for Laila because I think she would do better with a more versatile pro. Pity she didn't get Matt. Although, I'm not convinced that she would be good at Latin anyway, it would be interesting to see how she would do with another partner.

In response to the original OP, I think Anton has been exposed.
Couldn't agree more...I'm certain if Laila had been partnered with Matt,she'd have been one of the hot favourites...Anton's latin lets her down badly.

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Old 25-10-2009, 01:41
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Laila was not a happy girl in Tess's room, oh dear.
I don't suppose all this negativity helps, if she reads thee boards that is.

Onwards and upwards I say, Cha Cha, Samba & Jive overwith, just the more Anton friendly latin dances and Ballroom left for them, they should be okay now.
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Old 25-10-2009, 01:57
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Laila was not a happy girl in Tess's room, oh dear.
I don't suppose all this negativity helps, if she reads thee boards that is.

Onwards and upwards I say, Cha Cha, Samba & Jive overwith, just the more Anton friendly latin dances and Ballroom left for them, they should be okay now.
Oh yes...I'm going to be thrilled to see an Anton/Laila Rumba. Can't wait!!
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Old 25-10-2009, 01:59
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Oh yes...I'm going to be thrilled to see an Anton/Laila Rumba. Can't wait!!
Anton and Patsy's Rumba was good, so I think it will be very good, if they get the opportunity.
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Old 25-10-2009, 01:03
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I wonder if he's losing her some votes... I like Laila and I think she has a lot of potential but I'd never vote for her because I want to see a high standard of dance in the final. I just don't think Anton can deliver that.
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Old 25-10-2009, 01:15
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I feel bad for Laila because I think she would do better with a more versatile pro. Pity she didn't get Matt. Although, I'm not convinced that she would be good at Latin anyway, it would be interesting to see how she would do with another partner.
I think she has the potential to be great at latin.
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Old 25-10-2009, 01:19
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I think she has the potential to be great at latin.
Yeah. A different pro from the start might have been able to help her develop it.
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Old 25-10-2009, 06:15
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Yeah. A different pro from the start might have been able to help her develop it.
Yes, maybe someone like St Matthew whose dancing, choreography and teaching was so wonderful that his more talented than Laila partner managed to last all of.......one programme! Yes, Matt's a very good dancer and a nice guy - I've met him a few times on Gay Night at the Rivoli - but please try to keep some sense of perspective; he's not a God!
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Old 25-10-2009, 08:15
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I've been thinking the same (about him being terrible at choreography), he's always been given older celebs hasn't he? poor Laila. And he has absolutely no neck and a massive head which puts me off too.
'zactly

and he cant say samba properly

i think laila thinks he's an idiot. i think that's what we're picking up.
(or is just me that's projecting onto her lol)


I think she has the potential to be great at latin.
i agree. i dont think she is getting any good input
get, say, matthew back as a swap, and get him off
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Old 25-10-2009, 08:17
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Anton isn't the best at Latin we all know that, but he is good at Ballroom, so maybe that is why she is doing so well in that area.

Anton was critised this week for the content in the dance, but Laila really messed up last week, so perhaps his thinking was tone it down this week so that she can cope with it and not have two terrible weeks.

I get the feeling he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't regarding routines and her.

I don't think Laila is all that tbh, very overhyped.
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Old 25-10-2009, 08:32
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anton's samba wasnt really a samba. It had chacha at the start then some disco dancing a bit of John Travolta and a couple of samba rolls. I wasnt surprised that Bruno wasnt happy with it, a bit surprised that Len went for the jugular him being a golfing buddy of Anton's but really the criticism was well deserved and they were overmarked.
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Old 25-10-2009, 08:39
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Onwards and upwards I say, Cha Cha, Samba & Jive overwith, just the more Anton friendly latin dances and Ballroom left for them, they should be okay now.
Er... Salsa?
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Old 25-10-2009, 08:43
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Yes, maybe someone like St Matthew whose dancing, choreography and teaching was so wonderful that his more talented than Laila partner managed to last all of.......one programme! Yes, Matt's a very good dancer and a nice guy - I've met him a few times on Gay Night at the Rivoli - but please try to keep some sense of perspective; he's not a God!
I agree with you here - much as I like Matt as a person, he along with the other pros 'cuts his cloth to suit'.
Last year Christine (who I also liked btw), was struggling with her Latin - 27 for the Cha Cha in week 10 and 22 for the Paso in week 6 with Matt as her pro partner.

If a celeb doesn't get it he/she just doesn't get it.
The difference 2 years ago was that Alesha did get it and so was successful.

Loved the Jive he choreographed last night tho and the best pro dance last year was the Paso.
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Old 25-10-2009, 08:45
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Yes, maybe someone like St Matthew whose dancing, choreography and teaching was so wonderful that his more talented than Laila partner managed to last all of.......one programme! Yes, Matt's a very good dancer and a nice guy - I've met him a few times on Gay Night at the Rivoli - but please try to keep some sense of perspective; he's not a God!
Since you've posted this twice on two different threads, I'll reply twice:

He isn't the world's greatest living dancer, but it certainly isn't tosh to say he is by far the most accomplished dancer on Strictly. Look at his competitive record- it speaks for itself.

How did he get voted out in week one? Well he didn't deserve to, plain and simple. In a group of eight, he and Martina were ranked fifth. They were eliminated first because the public unaccountably voted through Lynda and Joe, and because the judges made what is widely acknowledged to be a strange decision. It wasn't even a majority decision- it was down to Len's casting vote and his bias for celebrity males.

Whether Laila would have done well with Matt is speculation. But to say she is a bad dancer when she has been taught by someone who doesn't know the first thing about latin.... how would Anton ever produce a good dancer? Someone who was actually teaching her the basics, increasing the challenge week by week, and lending credibility to the routines by actually dancing them well himself, might well have produced better results that Anton has.

Even if you accept that she isn't capable of dancing latin well, she'd probably be better with someone like Darren. I can just imagine the kind of corny routines Anton would have produced for Lynda- at least Darren let her hold on to her dignity, and actually taught her proper, albeit basic, latin routines rather than just going for the comedy factor. Darren would have made Laila look much better than Anton does.
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Old 25-10-2009, 08:58
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Since you've posted this twice on two different threads, I'll reply twice:
And Darren would have made her look an ansolute clump in the ballroom because he's not very good at it. Granted Lynda was dreadful but have you seen much worse dancing on SCD - Chris Parker and Jon Sergeant aside - than her's?!
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