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Old 24-10-2009, 23:30
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...is generally substandard for a pro dancer.
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Old 24-10-2009, 23:31
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Agree but can't you post that in one of the MANY Anton threads.... ??
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Old 25-10-2009, 06:21
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Agree but can't you post that in one of the MANY Anton threads.... ??
Obviously not, because having many anti-Anton threads then gives the impression that there's a real concensus that he's not popular, something which the vile tabloids have now picked up on. Anyway, there are so many 'professional' posters on these boards with agendas from their specific organisations that they'll keep up with it!

And, of course, the general public will keep supporting him and keep voting for him because he provides much of the very little genuine entertainment left on SCD!
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Old 25-10-2009, 07:49
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Leaving to one side whether you like or loath him, I feel he shouldn't be in the competition. His partner always starts off at a disadvantage because quite honestly, he can't dance Latin. OK he's a damn good ballroom dancer, but the Latin specialists are competent at that too.
All competitors should start off on a level playing field. He should go and give a good allrounder a chance
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Old 25-10-2009, 08:17
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^ is that how you spell fleckerl?
i never did know
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Old 25-10-2009, 09:17
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Leaving to one side whether you like or loath him, I feel he shouldn't be in the competition. His partner always starts off at a disadvantage because quite honestly, he can't dance Latin. OK he's a damn good ballroom dancer, but the Latin specialists are competent at that too.
All competitors should start off on a level playing field. He should go and give a good allrounder a chance
Impossible - the competitors are a random selection of people with varying natural dancing abilities and many of them have studied dance before.

Also the general public all have favourites among the pro team and that affects how they vote. I can stand smug self-obsessed James for example.

Then ther''s the voting public who have wills and minds of their own as typified by the John Sergeant popularity last year. They don't care if their favourite can't dance.

SCD is not like a 1000m race where only the fit and trained apply.

It is a wonderful mish mash of clashing egos and hopeless cases and real surprises. I love it.
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Old 25-10-2009, 09:24
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Impossible - the competitors are a random selection of people with varying natural dancing abilities and many of them have studied dance before.

Also the general public all have favourites among the pro team and that affects how they vote. I can stand smug self-obsessed James for example.

Then ther''s the voting public who have wills and minds of their own as typified by the John Sergeant popularity last year. They don't care if their favourite can't dance.

SCD is not like a 1000m race where only the fit and trained apply.

It is a wonderful mish mash of clashing egos and hopeless cases and real surprises. I love it.
A very good analysis, if I might say so.
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Old 25-10-2009, 09:35
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I found it very telling that Laila danced the samba better than Anton did
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Old 25-10-2009, 10:05
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A very good analysis, if I might say so.
Thank you.
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Old 25-10-2009, 10:13
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Impossible - the competitors are a random selection of people with varying natural dancing abilities and many of them have studied dance before.

Also the general public all have favourites among the pro team and that affects how they vote. I can stand smug self-obsessed James for example.

Then ther''s the voting public who have wills and minds of their own as typified by the John Sergeant popularity last year. They don't care if their favourite can't dance.

SCD is not like a 1000m race where only the fit and trained apply.

It is a wonderful mish mash of clashing egos and hopeless cases and real surprises. I love it.
I understood Fleckerl to be talking about Anto, not the celebs.
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Old 25-10-2009, 10:31
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Anton's Samba looked like typical 'dad dancing' to me.

Maybe he should ask one of the other pro's for some lessons.
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Old 25-10-2009, 10:44
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I found it very telling that Laila danced the samba better than Anton did
Very true.
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Old 25-10-2009, 10:45
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Anton's Samba looked like typical 'dad dancing' to me.

Maybe he should ask one of the other pro's for some lessons.
Funnily enough he did just that this week with Chris Marques and Laila didn't bother turning up! You'll find that all the dancers ask help from their colleagues, in fact Anton and Erin are regulaly brought in by the Latin specialists for help with ballroom.
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Old 25-10-2009, 10:46
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In your opinion. And you're clearly a professional ballroom dancing teacher?!
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Old 25-10-2009, 10:57
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Funnily enough he did just that this week with Chris Marques and Laila didn't bother turning up! You'll find that all the dancers ask help from their colleagues, in fact Anton and Erin are regulaly brought in by the Latin specialists for help with ballroom.
If that's the case then I like Laila even less now and she was already my least favourite celeb!
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Old 25-10-2009, 10:58
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Funnily enough he did just that this week with Chris Marques and Laila didn't bother turning up! You'll find that all the dancers ask help from their colleagues, in fact Anton and Erin are regulaly brought in by the Latin specialists for help with ballroom.
The shouty salsa man! From what I've heard (from someone with a strong dance background/knowledge), Chris Marques specialised in Salsa because he wasn't good enough to get anywhere in latin. A bit of an odd choice when you have Matt, Lilia, Darren and Kristina free.

IN any case, do we know why Laila didn't turn up? Rather than just "didn't bother", it could have been any number of valid reasons!

Sometimes you sound a bit like an orchestrated campaign yourself!
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Old 25-10-2009, 11:35
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The shouty salsa man! From what I've heard (from someone with a strong dance background/knowledge), Chris Marques specialised in Salsa because he wasn't good enough to get anywhere in latin. A bit of an odd choice when you have Matt, Lilia, Darren and Kristina free.

IN any case, do we know why Laila didn't turn up? Rather than just "didn't bother", it could have been any number of valid reasons!

Sometimes you sound a bit like an orchestrated campaign yourself!
If true Chris is a very odd choice to bring in for Samba
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Old 25-10-2009, 11:42
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I think the producers are reticent in showing any "negative" training footage of Laila and Anton after everything that happened. Something was obviously amiss this week, with them doing so few hours in training, and this rumour that Laila didn't turn up to a rehearsal. I doubt anything will be said about it though as they don't want to paint either in a bad light.
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Old 25-10-2009, 11:45
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I love to see Anton in ballroom, but always dread him in the latin.
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Old 25-10-2009, 11:49
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I understood Fleckerl to be talking about Anto, not the celebs.
So was I, that's why I said it was random.

Anton gets the partner chosen for him just like all the other pros.

The whole format is random.

How it pans out does not depend on how good or bad any particular pro or partner is or how they are paried up - the public decide.
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Old 25-10-2009, 11:51
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So was I, that's why I said it was random.

Anton gets the partner chosen for him just like all the other pros.

The whole format is random.

How it pans out does not depend on how good or bad any particular pro or partner is or how they are paried up - the public decide.
Whilst I agree the celebs ability should be random the one thing that should not is surely the professionals?? so the celebs have a level playing field getting a professional the one who is supposed to teach you that can't dance a particular style surely puts that celeb on the wrong foot from the start
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Old 25-10-2009, 11:52
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Obviously not, because having many anti-Anton threads then gives the impression that there's a real concensus that he's not popular, something which the vile tabloids have now picked up on. Anyway, there are so many 'professional' posters on these boards with agendas from their specific organisations that they'll keep up with it!

And, of course, the general public will keep supporting him and keep voting for him because he provides much of the very little genuine entertainment left on SCD!
And which specific organisation are you from arlene's boy?

Hand on heart, there is no one else who posts on this forum that has a more obvious agenda than you do. And considering Bhoy1888 is part of our 'family' that's really saying something
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Old 25-10-2009, 12:00
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And which specific organisation are you from arlene's boy?

Hand on heart, there is no one else who posts on this forum that has a more obvious agenda than you do. And considering Bhoy1888 is part of our 'family' that's really saying something
None, actually, but my job does centre around media analysis and I'm finding it very interesting how things are being represented on this particular issue and from the anti-BBC press in general. Did you see the article yesterday about the hairsrpay and how BBC busybodies were making the celebs have it applied in the open air; what a joke?!

But I confess to being an Anton admirer and so I'm very happy to lend my support to him, especially given there's a clear bias against him. In fact a whole section of my posts a few days ago was deleted even though they contained nothing that could be considered offensive, libellous, etc. Oddly many of the 'replies' I had received were left so that part of the thread then appeared as almost entirely anti him.

But, I'm happy to accept for now jibes from people who don't like him and will allow myself to be smug when the full story is published!
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Old 25-10-2009, 12:06
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But hairspray in an enclosed space and possibly used by a number of people is hazardous - I think it is a very good idea to restrict people to using it outside
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Old 25-10-2009, 12:09
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But hairspray in an enclosed space and possibly used by a number of people is hazardous - I think it is a very good idea to restrict people to using it outside
Then I'm afraid our delightful national press would consider you a Health & Safety busybody! Which I am 100% sure you're not.
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