...is generally substandard for a pro dancer.
Anton's Latin...
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Originally Posted by SaraV1308:
“Agree but can't you post that in one of the MANY Anton threads.... ??”
“Agree but can't you post that in one of the MANY Anton threads.... ??”
Obviously not, because having many anti-Anton threads then gives the impression that there's a real concensus that he's not popular, something which the vile tabloids have now picked up on. Anyway, there are so many 'professional' posters on these boards with agendas from their specific organisations that they'll keep up with it!
And, of course, the general public will keep supporting him and keep voting for him because he provides much of the very little genuine entertainment left on SCD!
Leaving to one side whether you like or loath him, I feel he shouldn't be in the competition. His partner always starts off at a disadvantage because quite honestly, he can't dance Latin. OK he's a damn good ballroom dancer, but the Latin specialists are competent at that too.
All competitors should start off on a level playing field. He should go and give a good allrounder a chance
All competitors should start off on a level playing field. He should go and give a good allrounder a chance
Originally Posted by Fleckerl:
“Leaving to one side whether you like or loath him, I feel he shouldn't be in the competition. His partner always starts off at a disadvantage because quite honestly, he can't dance Latin. OK he's a damn good ballroom dancer, but the Latin specialists are competent at that too.
All competitors should start off on a level playing field. He should go and give a good allrounder a chance”
“Leaving to one side whether you like or loath him, I feel he shouldn't be in the competition. His partner always starts off at a disadvantage because quite honestly, he can't dance Latin. OK he's a damn good ballroom dancer, but the Latin specialists are competent at that too.
All competitors should start off on a level playing field. He should go and give a good allrounder a chance”
Impossible - the competitors are a random selection of people with varying natural dancing abilities and many of them have studied dance before.
Also the general public all have favourites among the pro team and that affects how they vote. I can stand smug self-obsessed James for example.
Then ther''s the voting public who have wills and minds of their own as typified by the John Sergeant popularity last year. They don't care if their favourite can't dance.
SCD is not like a 1000m race where only the fit and trained apply.
It is a wonderful mish mash of clashing egos and hopeless cases and real surprises. I love it.
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“Impossible - the competitors are a random selection of people with varying natural dancing abilities and many of them have studied dance before.
Also the general public all have favourites among the pro team and that affects how they vote. I can stand smug self-obsessed James for example.
Then ther''s the voting public who have wills and minds of their own as typified by the John Sergeant popularity last year. They don't care if their favourite can't dance.
SCD is not like a 1000m race where only the fit and trained apply.
It is a wonderful mish mash of clashing egos and hopeless cases and real surprises. I love it.”
“Impossible - the competitors are a random selection of people with varying natural dancing abilities and many of them have studied dance before.
Also the general public all have favourites among the pro team and that affects how they vote. I can stand smug self-obsessed James for example.
Then ther''s the voting public who have wills and minds of their own as typified by the John Sergeant popularity last year. They don't care if their favourite can't dance.
SCD is not like a 1000m race where only the fit and trained apply.
It is a wonderful mish mash of clashing egos and hopeless cases and real surprises. I love it.
”
A very good analysis, if I might say so.
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“Impossible - the competitors are a random selection of people with varying natural dancing abilities and many of them have studied dance before.
Also the general public all have favourites among the pro team and that affects how they vote. I can stand smug self-obsessed James for example.
Then ther''s the voting public who have wills and minds of their own as typified by the John Sergeant popularity last year. They don't care if their favourite can't dance.
SCD is not like a 1000m race where only the fit and trained apply.
It is a wonderful mish mash of clashing egos and hopeless cases and real surprises. I love it.”
“Impossible - the competitors are a random selection of people with varying natural dancing abilities and many of them have studied dance before.
Also the general public all have favourites among the pro team and that affects how they vote. I can stand smug self-obsessed James for example.
Then ther''s the voting public who have wills and minds of their own as typified by the John Sergeant popularity last year. They don't care if their favourite can't dance.
SCD is not like a 1000m race where only the fit and trained apply.
It is a wonderful mish mash of clashing egos and hopeless cases and real surprises. I love it.
”
I understood Fleckerl to be talking about Anto, not the celebs.
Anton's Samba looked like typical 'dad dancing' to me.
Maybe he should ask one of the other pro's for some lessons.
Maybe he should ask one of the other pro's for some lessons.
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“I found it very telling that Laila danced the samba better than Anton did
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“I found it very telling that Laila danced the samba better than Anton did
”
Very true.
Originally Posted by Stuckinthe70's:
“Anton's Samba looked like typical 'dad dancing' to me.
Maybe he should ask one of the other pro's for some lessons.”
“Anton's Samba looked like typical 'dad dancing' to me.
Maybe he should ask one of the other pro's for some lessons.
”
Funnily enough he did just that this week with Chris Marques and Laila didn't bother turning up! You'll find that all the dancers ask help from their colleagues, in fact Anton and Erin are regulaly brought in by the Latin specialists for help with ballroom.
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“Very true.”
“Very true.”
In your opinion. And you're clearly a professional ballroom dancing teacher?!
Originally Posted by arlene's boy:
“Funnily enough he did just that this week with Chris Marques and Laila didn't bother turning up! You'll find that all the dancers ask help from their colleagues, in fact Anton and Erin are regulaly brought in by the Latin specialists for help with ballroom.”
“Funnily enough he did just that this week with Chris Marques and Laila didn't bother turning up! You'll find that all the dancers ask help from their colleagues, in fact Anton and Erin are regulaly brought in by the Latin specialists for help with ballroom.”
If that's the case then I like Laila even less now and she was already my least favourite celeb!
Originally Posted by arlene's boy:
“Funnily enough he did just that this week with Chris Marques and Laila didn't bother turning up! You'll find that all the dancers ask help from their colleagues, in fact Anton and Erin are regulaly brought in by the Latin specialists for help with ballroom.”
“Funnily enough he did just that this week with Chris Marques and Laila didn't bother turning up! You'll find that all the dancers ask help from their colleagues, in fact Anton and Erin are regulaly brought in by the Latin specialists for help with ballroom.”
The shouty salsa man! From what I've heard (from someone with a strong dance background/knowledge), Chris Marques specialised in Salsa because he wasn't good enough to get anywhere in latin. A bit of an odd choice when you have Matt, Lilia, Darren and Kristina free.
IN any case, do we know why Laila didn't turn up? Rather than just "didn't bother", it could have been any number of valid reasons!
Sometimes you sound a bit like an orchestrated campaign yourself!
Originally Posted by katie_p:
“The shouty salsa man! From what I've heard (from someone with a strong dance background/knowledge), Chris Marques specialised in Salsa because he wasn't good enough to get anywhere in latin. A bit of an odd choice when you have Matt, Lilia, Darren and Kristina free.
IN any case, do we know why Laila didn't turn up? Rather than just "didn't bother", it could have been any number of valid reasons!
Sometimes you sound a bit like an orchestrated campaign yourself!”
“The shouty salsa man! From what I've heard (from someone with a strong dance background/knowledge), Chris Marques specialised in Salsa because he wasn't good enough to get anywhere in latin. A bit of an odd choice when you have Matt, Lilia, Darren and Kristina free.
IN any case, do we know why Laila didn't turn up? Rather than just "didn't bother", it could have been any number of valid reasons!
Sometimes you sound a bit like an orchestrated campaign yourself!”
If true Chris is a very odd choice to bring in for Samba
I think the producers are reticent in showing any "negative" training footage of Laila and Anton after everything that happened. Something was obviously amiss this week, with them doing so few hours in training, and this rumour that Laila didn't turn up to a rehearsal. I doubt anything will be said about it though as they don't want to paint either in a bad light.
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“I understood Fleckerl to be talking about Anto, not the celebs.”
“I understood Fleckerl to be talking about Anto, not the celebs.”
So was I, that's why I said it was random.
Anton gets the partner chosen for him just like all the other pros.
The whole format is random.
How it pans out does not depend on how good or bad any particular pro or partner is or how they are paried up - the public decide.
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“So was I, that's why I said it was random.
Anton gets the partner chosen for him just like all the other pros.
The whole format is random.
How it pans out does not depend on how good or bad any particular pro or partner is or how they are paried up - the public decide.”
“So was I, that's why I said it was random.
Anton gets the partner chosen for him just like all the other pros.
The whole format is random.
How it pans out does not depend on how good or bad any particular pro or partner is or how they are paried up - the public decide.”
Whilst I agree the celebs ability should be random the one thing that should not is surely the professionals?? so the celebs have a level playing field getting a professional the one who is supposed to teach you that can't dance a particular style surely puts that celeb on the wrong foot from the start
Originally Posted by arlene's boy:
“Obviously not, because having many anti-Anton threads then gives the impression that there's a real concensus that he's not popular, something which the vile tabloids have now picked up on. Anyway, there are so many 'professional' posters on these boards with agendas from their specific organisations that they'll keep up with it!
And, of course, the general public will keep supporting him and keep voting for him because he provides much of the very little genuine entertainment left on SCD!”
“Obviously not, because having many anti-Anton threads then gives the impression that there's a real concensus that he's not popular, something which the vile tabloids have now picked up on. Anyway, there are so many 'professional' posters on these boards with agendas from their specific organisations that they'll keep up with it!
And, of course, the general public will keep supporting him and keep voting for him because he provides much of the very little genuine entertainment left on SCD!”
And which specific organisation are you from arlene's boy?
Hand on heart, there is no one else who posts on this forum that has a more obvious agenda than you do. And considering Bhoy1888 is part of our 'family' that's really saying something
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“And which specific organisation are you from arlene's boy?
Hand on heart, there is no one else who posts on this forum that has a more obvious agenda than you do. And considering Bhoy1888 is part of our 'family' that's really saying something”
“And which specific organisation are you from arlene's boy?
Hand on heart, there is no one else who posts on this forum that has a more obvious agenda than you do. And considering Bhoy1888 is part of our 'family' that's really saying something
”
None, actually, but my job does centre around media analysis and I'm finding it very interesting how things are being represented on this particular issue and from the anti-BBC press in general. Did you see the article yesterday about the hairsrpay and how BBC busybodies were making the celebs have it applied in the open air; what a joke?!
But I confess to being an Anton admirer and so I'm very happy to lend my support to him, especially given there's a clear bias against him. In fact a whole section of my posts a few days ago was deleted even though they contained nothing that could be considered offensive, libellous, etc. Oddly many of the 'replies' I had received were left so that part of the thread then appeared as almost entirely anti him.
But, I'm happy to accept for now jibes from people who don't like him and will allow myself to be smug when the full story is published!
But hairspray in an enclosed space and possibly used by a number of people is hazardous - I think it is a very good idea to restrict people to using it outside
Originally Posted by Liz G-S:
“But hairspray in an enclosed space and possibly used by a number of people is hazardous - I think it is a very good idea to restrict people to using it outside”
“But hairspray in an enclosed space and possibly used by a number of people is hazardous - I think it is a very good idea to restrict people to using it outside”
Then I'm afraid our delightful national press would consider you a Health & Safety busybody! Which I am 100% sure you're not.
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