Why is that? Sorry folks but, I've just watched Ali's American Smooth and I have to say I'm more than a little disappointed that NOT one of you have started a thread of outrage saying that the 10 was undeserved! Last week Ricky got an undeserved 10 for his VW and this forum was littered with threads and posts screaming for Alesha's head and slating Ricky.

So my question is why isn't it the same for Ali? Don't get me wrong it was a good dance, and probably deserved 9s across the board which (unlike Ricky) would still have made her top on the night but, the lack of reaction to the 10 doesn't sit comfortably with me. Why aren't people having a go at Bruno, like they did Alesha last week? What makes Ali's 10 more acceptable than Ricky's?

I think for some reason Ali is a lot more popular then Ricky on these boards, hence no "uproar".
Not sure why, i actually think Ricky is slightly better and has more of a personality..
I do prefer Brian to Rickys pro partner though.

no it probably wasn't worth a ten but it was definitely a nine - ricky's was worth an 8

I thought it was more deserving of a ten than Ricky's dance was, although personally would have given both routines 9.

I don't think either dance deserved a 10. I think Ali deserved all 9's.

I think the uproar last week was due to 2 factors:

1. Ricky isn't very popular on here.
2. Alesha was the judge giving the 10.

I too thought it was superior.

Whilst I know marking should be judged on current weeks, if Ali hadnt received a 10 after Ricky's last week then there would have been an uproar.

I don't know if it was worthy of a ten (personally I thought it was worthy of one) but it WAS better than Ricky's, quite noticeably so in my opinion. If Ricky got one last week, Ali simply had to this week.

We're probably going to see 10's every week from now on. No doubt this years crop will have the highest number of 10's given. Until next year! So contrived and rather boring now.

Hmm i dont think thats always the case though i personally think had Ali got the 10 first people wouldnt have complained about her.
i do think a lot of people criticise 10s when there given out to a couple they dont like (regardless of which judge gives them out).
For example last year there was a bigger uproar about Lisa getting 10s then Rachel, also more people seem to complain about zoe and james getting high marks then someone like Ali or Jade.

I agree, neither dance was worth a 10. The only reason I didn't post was that it would mean repeating everything I said previously..marking done on a week to week basis, a 10 is just worth more than a 9 in any particular week, nothing to do with previous 10's in past series etc, etc.
Anyway, I've posted now.

She definitely is, I think people are hoping for her potential to shine through. Which is probably why people haven't screamed about the unfairness of her mark.

I disagreed with Craig about the 8 and Alesha the 10. However, I do think Alesha had backed herself into a corner after giving Jade and Ian a 9 then saying Ricky and Natalie had danced the best VW of the night, which imho it was.


I totally agree with both routines being worth the 9. Yet for any routine to have a 10 I like it to have a "wow" factor. So far this series the only routine where I was totally wowed was Ricky's Paso and if he did that now I'm pretty sure it would get a 10.

Her dance was better than Ricky's and Bruno mainly scores performance rather than technique, he has a proven track record in this area. Alesha's giving a 10 doesn't seem right as I am not sure she really knows what she is talking about.

I thought it was a nice dance but nothing spectacular. I haven't seen anything yet that warranted a 10

I was happy to see a 10, as it was a 9 or 10 for me - I could even have accepted two 10s! Also, given the other scores for the night at least one 10 seemed fair.

I don't dislike Ricky, but his dance last week was only worth 8 to me.

Thanks for posting folks. I'm going out later on but, will try to respond to all of your posts.


I totally agree with you there! In fact even I groaned when she gave it even though I could understand why she did.


I accept that you thought it superior but, just because Ricky (or anyone for that matter) was given a 10 it shouldn't necessarily follow that someone-else should be given one the following week. John Barnes was given a 10 for his Salsa (which I loved ) but, I can't remember anyone receiving a 10 the following week because of it.


Again, I have to disagree here. If Ali had got one last week then, it shouldn't follow that someone should get one this week. Louisa got a 10 for her Jive quite early in the competition and then we didn't see anything for a few weeks.


I tend to agree with you there.


Totally agree with you, especially the part about it being a couple people dislike.


Interesting, I did wonder if Alesha's 10 was somehow de-valued because of her lack of experience.


Totally agree.

I would like to think if she had got two 10s then I wouldn't have had to start this thread! Seriously, when comparing AS's in the past that haven't even warranted a 9 against Ali's; two 10s for that routine I would hope the forum would have gone into serious melt-down!

I think it was a far more deserved 10 than Rickys last week - I couldn't find fault with it anyway.

But we're not comparing AS s from the past. Compared to Ricky's VW Ali's dance deserved two '10's. It was beautifully executed and gave me goosebumps.

Interesting. So comparing one week to the previous of the current series is invalid in your view, yet comparing this year's routines to those of series' gone by has more legitimacy?

True and I apologise for making past comparisons. However, I disagree that Ali's dance was worth one 10 let alone two! It didn't give me goosebumps and I did think it lumpy in parts. Sorry but, that's how I saw it. It was nice to see her looking confident though and she most certainly backed up the potential we saw in the first week.

I'm pretty sure posts were made saying it wasn't really a 10 because it came from Alesha.


Aaah. I have given up comparing series with series, because for me the scores from series 6 completely ruined the possibility of doing just that. When it comes to under or over marking, I'm just thinking about what we have seen in this series.

No it hasn't and I have apologised for making the comparison. However, I do stand by my belief that it wasn't worth a 10 and my surprise that more people didn't make a fuss over it.

I don't think it deserved a 10 - 4 9's would have reflected the best dance of the night for me.

Also I fail to see the logic of those who think Ricky's (undeserved) 10 should be followed by another this week. It's not as though they were awarded by the same judge.

In fact I would say that if Alesha really thinks that Ricky's VW last week was superior to Ali's AS on Saturday it calls into serious question her judgement.

I dont know about anyone else, but my comments werent based on a "the 10s are out, now should they stay out" logic as you implied. Not at all.

For me, Ali's dance last night surpassed any of the contestants previous dances, including her own. As several of those previous dances got a 9 and one even managed a 10, logically the best dance of the series so far also deserved at least one 10.

I agree it was the best dance we've seen this series, although I still wasn't knocked out by it. But does that mean that every time someone performs better than Ricky W's far from flawless VW it has to get a 10 simply because an unqualified judge overmarked Ricky on an earlier occasion? Two wrongs and all that.

I do agree that Ali's dance is a serious contender for best of the series. My point is that the undeserved 10 awarded to Ricky should not herald another undeserved 10; or should every dance superior to Ricky's VW be deserving of a 10?

Far better imo to put the 10 back in it's box until it is truly deserved.