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Ratings Thread (Part 5)
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Fudd
23-11-2009
Sunday 22nd November 2009 Overnights

BBC1
7.00 Countryfile: 6.0m (24%)
8.00 Antiques Roadshow: 5.4m (18%)
9.00 Garrow's Law: 4.1m (14%)
10.00 BBC Ten O'Clock News: 6.2m (28%)

BBC2
8.00 Ray Mears Northern Wilderness: 1.6m (5.5%)
9.00 Top Gear: 5.3m (18%)
* down 200,000 and one share point on last week
10.00 Miranda: 2.0m (10%)
11.30 Argumental: 0.7m (9%)

ITV1
7.15 All Star Family Fortunes: 6.8m (26%)
8.00 The X Factor: 13.7m (46%)
* peak 14.4m (47%) between 9.45-10.00 according to Media Guardian
* peak 15.9m (51.1%) between 9.45-10.00 according to Broadcast
9.00 I'm A Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here: 10m (34%)
* up 200,000 viewers but down 2% points on last week's launch
* peak of 10.3m (36%) between 9.15-9.30
10.00 The Osborne Family Adremaline Junkie: 2.0m (10%)
10.00-10.15: 3.4m. By the end of the show: 1.2m

Channel 4
8.00 Come Dine With Me: 1.3m (5%)
* plus 158,000 viewers on Channel 4+1
9.00 Embarrassing Old Bodies: 1.5m (5%)
* plus 256,000 viewers on Channel 4+1
10.00 Derren Brown Presents the 3D Magic Spectacular: 400,000 (2%)
* plus 68,000 viewers on Channel 4+1

Five
6.20 Spiderman 3: 2.6m (10%)

Sources: Media Guardian; Broadcast
rzt
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Sunday 22nd November 2009 Overnights

BBC1
10.00 BBC Ten O'Clock News: 6.2m (28%)”

BBC News did really well. If ITV had kept its news coverage at 10pm yesterday, I think ITV News at Ten would have got around ~3.5m.

Miranda reaching over 4m per week is excellent. Another series must be on the cards.
Last edited by rzt : 23-11-2009 at 16:49
D.M.N.
23-11-2009
BBC have made a mistake with both Strictly and SPOTY, and as thus ITV1 have a head start of 15 minutes on both nights.

Cheryl Cole's thing starts 15 minutes before Strictly, while Family Fortunes on the Sunday starts 15 minutes before SPOTY.
Fudd
23-11-2009
ITV ad revenue lifts by 11%

So it's to be up 12% on ITV1, 11% across the channels. Previously, it was said ITV1 would break even between September and December IIRC, so I guess now there's to be an increase year on year. I'll be surprised if ITV don't have a better year overall in 2009 to 2008, considering that they've had a half decent year this year compared to last.
Agent F
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by rzt:
“BBC News did really well. If ITV had kept its news coverage at 10pm yesterday, I think ITV News at Ten would have got around ~3.5m.”

Possibly even more. I don't understand why they'd sacrifice a chunk of that audience to show some ITV2 repeat. Bizarre.
Agent F
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“BBC have made a mistake with both Strictly and SPOTY, and as thus ITV1 have a head start of 15 minutes on both nights.

Cheryl Cole's thing starts 15 minutes before Strictly, while Family Fortunes on the Sunday starts 15 minutes before SPOTY.”

I know a certain somebody's not going to be too pleased with ITV's 'aggressive' scheduling.
Only_You
23-11-2009
More films on BBC1 this Christmas

The Incredibles
Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End
Over The Hedge
Flushed Away
The Santa Clause 3.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...hristmas.shtml
Georged123
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“I know a certain somebody's not going to be too pleased with ITV's 'aggressive' scheduling.”

Surely Cheryl Cole and SCD appeal to different audiences?
Georged123
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by Only_You:
“More films on BBC1 this Christmas

The Incredibles
Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End
Over The Hedge
Flushed Away
The Santa Clause 3.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...hristmas.shtml”

Incredibles at 3:10 after The Queen surely?
POTC on boxing day night i would think aswell.
Fudd
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Surely Cheryl Cole and SCD appeal to different audiences?”

I agree, I can't see either show being hurt. Cheryl Cole has the TV Burp lead in/The X Factor lead out to bump it up, and to many she is the 'Nation's Princess'. Strictly will be coming to the end of the contest, and the 9m+ who are following it won't be ditching it just because Cheryl Cole is on the other channel.
Andy23
23-11-2009
The Susan Boyle thing seems to have changed from what was originally mentioned in the tabloids. It now sounds to be more like a documentary than 'An audience with'

I did have my doubts considering Susan is not very good at live interviews.

Usual master of publicity Jordan has dropped a clanger going today as all the publicity will be about Jedward. Waiting until tommorow would have been better.
Agent F
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“The Susan Boyle thing seems to have changed from what was originally mentioned in the tabloids. It now sounds to be more like a documentary than 'An audience with'

I did have my doubts considering Susan is not very good at live interviews.”

True. She struggled with the 60 seconds she was granted last night on The X Factor so how on earth she'd cope with a full hour I'll never know.
James J
23-11-2009
Heartbeat's set has been destroyed so ITV will not resume filming in 2010 as they suggested.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv-entertain...5875-21843572/

Clever moves ITV. They killed the show by tossing it about the schedules.
Andy23
23-11-2009
What set are they talking about, aren't the sets of all programmes taken down and then put up again?

They still have Heartbeat stock piled now don't they, so probably wouldn't need new episodes until 2011 if they were going to make new episodes
Jonwo
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by Only_You:
“More films on BBC1 this Christmas

The Incredibles
Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End
Over The Hedge
Flushed Away
The Santa Clause 3.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...hristmas.shtml”

Seems my suspicions were confirmed as I knew Ratatouille was too early for a terrestrial premiere and before Cars and The Incredibles, wonder if Enchanted and National Treasure: Book of Secrets will be shown or is it too early?
Georged123
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Seems my suspicions were confirmed as I knew Ratatouille was too early for a terrestrial premiere and before Cars and The Incredibles, wonder if Enchanted and National Treasure: Book of Secrets will be shown or is it too early?”

Wouldnt they have announced all the films to premiere today? Does anyone know how many film premieres the BBC usually show over the Christmas period?
Fudd
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“What set are they talking about, aren't the sets of all programmes taken down and then put up again?

They still have Heartbeat stock piled now don't they, so probably wouldn't need new episodes until 2011 if they were going to make new episodes”

The annoying thing is that I think Heartbeat would be perfect Tuesday night filler. Certainly better that the tripe that they usually air in that slot and it should bring in a good 4m. It'd never beat Holby, but not much would. If they started it at 7.30pm, straight after Emmerdale, then just use something like Countrywise/Grimefighters as filler until 9.00 - think that'd do better than what they're trying out at the moment.
Jonwo
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Wouldnt they have announced all the films to premiere today? Does anyone know how many film premieres the BBC usually show over the Christmas period?”

Usually the full list is listed next week or the week after, we had the likes of Superman Returns and Narnia last year, Over the Hedge and Flushed Away I could see on Boxing Day or Christmas Eve, The Incredibles at 3.10pm on Christmas Day and The Santa Clause 3 at 11am on Christmas Day which is similar to what The Santa Clause 2 schedule.
D.M.N.
23-11-2009
Based on the information in the BBC Press Office, I've put together what the schedule will probably end up looking like: http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9350/bbch.jpg

- black indicates areas outside of peaktime, or spaces where there is nothing to fit in
- green = repeat
- red = film



Knowing my look, it'll end up something totally different!! Some shows will not end up on the day they are normally shown, for instance I've had to move Total Wipeout to Sundays @ 7pm as Saturday's are chop a block.
Georged123
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“The annoying thing is that I think Heartbeat would be perfect Tuesday night filler. Certainly better that the tripe that they usually air in that slot and it should bring in a good 4m. It'd never beat Holby, but not much would. If they started it at 7.30pm, straight after Emmerdale, then just use something like Countrywise/Grimefighters as filler until 9.00 - think that'd do better than what they're trying out at the moment.”

I think its pretty shameful what ITV have done with it. It could have done fine on a tuesday or just kept on sundays at 8 for an uninterruptd run. It could easily still get 6 million and be useful when X Factor and DOI are off air.
Jonwo
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Based on the information in the BBC Press Office, I've put together what the schedule will probably end up looking like: http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9350/bbch.jpg

- black indicates areas outside of peaktime, or spaces where there is nothing to fit in
- green = repeat
- red = film



Knowing my look, it'll end up something totally different!! Some shows will not end up on the day they are normally shown, for instance I've had to move Total Wipeout to Sundays @ 7pm as Saturday's are chop a block.”

Good schedule D.M.N., I'm thinking with Cranford, Monday and Tuesday after Christmas and Turn of the Screw on the Sunday before Christmas, I think Mid Life Christmas will get Christmas Eve but it wouldn't surprise me if they opt for Christmas Day.

I like The Royle Family but I wish they had opted for another comedy.
D.M.N.
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Good schedule D.M.N., I'm thinking with Cranford, Monday and Tuesday after Christmas and Turn of the Screw on the Sunday before Christmas, I think Mid Life Christmas will get Christmas Eve but it wouldn't surprise me if they opt for Christmas Day.

I like The Royle Family but I wish they had opted for another comedy.”

If you ask me, BBC have too many comedies this Christmas and not enough drama...
Fudd
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Based on the information in the BBC Press Office, I've put together what the schedule will probably end up looking like: http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9350/bbch.jpg

- black indicates areas outside of peaktime, or spaces where there is nothing to fit in
- green = repeat
- red = film



Knowing my look, it'll end up something totally different!! Some shows will not end up on the day they are normally shown, for instance I've had to move Total Wipeout to Sundays @ 7pm as Saturday's are chop a block.”

They could easily stick Waters of Mars on Christmas Eve as filler against the soap. Then End of Time Part 1 on Christmas Day, and End of Time Part 2 on Boxing Day - placing the trilogy together. It'd mean slight changes over Christmas Day and Boxing Day to fit everything in:

Christmas Eve
7.00 Celebrity Mastermind
7.30 EastEnders
8.00 Doctor Who: Waters of Mars
9.00 Gavin and Stacey (Double Bill)

Christmas Day
6.00 The Gruffalo
6.30 EastEnders
7.00 Doctor Who: End of Time Part One
8.00 Strictly Come Dancing
9.00 EastEnders
9.30 The Royle Family Christmas Special
10.30 Catherine Tate - Nan's Christmas Special

Boxing Day
6.00 Total Wipeout Christmas Special
7.00 Doctor Who: End of Time Part 2
8.00 EastEnders
8.30 Casualty
9.20 Outnumbered Christmas Special
9.50 The Lottery
10.00 BBC News and Weather
10.20 Match of the Day

Alternatively with Boxing Day they could move everything back half hour to fit in The Impressions Show:

5.30 Total Wipeout Christmas Special
6.30 Doctor Who: End of Time Part 2
7.30 EastEnders
8.00 Casualty
8.50 Outnumbered Christmas Special
9.20 The Impressions Show
9.50 Lottery
10.00 BBC News and Weather
10.20 Match of the Day
Pizzatheaction
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by newkid30:
“I used to really look forward to the cartoons after the news , showing my age!!”


Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I seem to remember not too long ago that BBC1 moved Neighbours to 7pm during Wimbledon and/or Summer Olympics/Commonwealth Games (?) which meant a nightly cartoon at 7.25 for 2 weeks! Late 90s? Early 2000s?”

Yeah, 1994. Although the cartoons didn't appear in the listings. They had Neighbours down from 7 until 7.30, except for one Friday where they had a film at 7.20pm.
dan2008
23-11-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“EastEnders over Christmas, as noted above has 11 episodes. I think, it means that they will be having an episode on Boxing Day, despite the fact it is a Saturday. I suspect:

Episode 1 - 21/12 - Monday
Episode 2 - 22/12 - Tuesday
Episode 3 - 24/12 - Thursday (Christmas Eve)
Episode 4 - 25/12 - Friday (Christmas Day #1)
Episode 5 - 25/12 - Friday (Christmas Day #2)
Episode 6 - 26/12 - Saturday (Boxing Day)

Episode 7 - 28/12 - Monday
Episode 8 - 29/12 - Tuesday
Episode 9 - 31/12 - Thursday (New Year's Eve)
Episode 10 - 01/01 - Friday (New Year's Day #1)
Episode 11 - 01/01 - Friday (New Year's Day #1)

The descriptions for each episode match up with the plans we've heard for when certain things are meant to happen.

If the above does happen, I'm interested to see where in the Saturday schedule EastEnders will fit in given that there is an episode of Casualty and The Impressions Show also on that day, along with a Strictly Special and Total Wipeout Christmas Special.

I can see BBC doing:

17:10 - BBC News
17:30 - Total Wipeout Xmas Special
18:30 - Strictly Come Dancing Xmas Special
20:00 - EastEnders
20:30 - Casualty
21:20 - Lottery
21:30 - The Impressions Show With Culshaw And Stephenson
22:00 - BBC News
22:25 - Match of the Day

Will ITV be airing soaps on Boxing Day, despite the fact that it is a Saturday? (note - I know some people are saying Boxing Day is the Monday 28th, but IMO, it's still the Saturday!)

When was the last time EastEnders was on a Saturday? Makes for an interesting guessing game anyway now we actually know what will be on over Christmas!

The only problem with the above is that Outnumbered looks set for Boxing Day. Maybe Impressions Show maybe on Xmas Day @ 22:30?”

I think the Saturday Eastenders will actually air on Weds 23rd Dec
and i don't thinl they will have a Double Bill on new years eve this year with it being a Friday(unless its a 9/930 start)
so i think it's safe to say EastEnders will air Weds 23rd and Weds 30th
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