Is there a launch date yet for the final celebrity big brother?


I dont think the celebrity series will see a rise in viewers, however i do think more people will watch the main series with it being the last series.

Seeing as there is a distinct lack of ratings, I think I should note the alternative Christmas schedule... otherwise known as 'The STV Opt-Outs'. Here's a comparison against the remainder of the country (only primetime opt-outs)

Saturday 19th December - same schedule

Sunday 20th December
- STV opt-out of 'You've Been Framed and Famous!' at 18:00 to show 'Cuirm @ Celtic - Daimh' along with a TV Burp repeat.

Monday 21st December - same schedule

Tuesday 22nd and 29th December
- STV opt-out of 'The Bill' at 21:00 to show a repeat of 'In the Line of Fire'.

Wednesday 23rd December
- STV opt-out of 'Harry Hill's The Best of TV Burp' at 19:30 to show 'Fashion Hijack Christmas Special'.

Christmas Eve - same schedule

Christmas Day - same schedule

Boxing Day - same schedule

Sunday 27th December - same schedule

Monday 28th December
- STV opt-out of 'An Englishman in New York' at 21:00 to show 'The Search for Sherlock Holmes' and 'Moviejuice Special'.

Wednesday 30th December - same schedule

New Year's Eve
- Probably simplier if I do it like this:

ITV
21:00 - Sleep with Me
22:35 - Ad of the Decade
23:05 to 00:05 - ITV News

STV
21:00 - The Making of The Greatest Scot
22:15 - The Scots Factor
23:00 to 00:05 - Scotland's Always Had Talent

New Year's Day -same schedule

Quite a few opt-outs for STV over the festive season. Slightly surprised STV aren't opting out of Marple and Poirot to be honest.

On that note, I don't think anyone noted that Emmerdale isn't on @ 19:00 on Christmas Eve (Thursday) - its only on the once @ 20:00 - that's because of 'Corpse Bride' from 18:00 to 19:30. By my reckoning then, neither Emmerdale or Coronation Street actually have extra episodes over the festive season.

There's also, on ITV1 (and STV) a repeat of 'Dancing on Ice: The Story of Bolero with Torvill and Dean' on Sunday 27th December @ 18:00.

And finally, 'Funniest Ever You've Been Framed!' on Tuesday 29th December @ 20:00.

EDIT: Grimefighters and Emmerdale swap on Wednesday 30th December, so Emmerdale is on @ 19:30.

Whats so about that? STV have always opted out for Hogmany specials.

Couldn't they show anything better than documentary after documentary after documentary?

No, all seven episodes went out.

The dropped episode was just paper talk.

Surprising that STV have bothered with Marple and Poirot tbh, as I don't think they showed the two Marple's ITV showed in September. I thought they'd originally planned to show An Englishman In New York, though, so it seems to be a last minute thing to opt-out. Also, on Wed December 30th, ITV have moved Emmerdale to 19:30 to show an extra episode of Grimefighters (last in series) at 19:00, and an hour long Countrywise at 8pm. It'll be interesting to see how these two do without airing against Eastenders, and I bet Countrywise will do quite well.

As for ITV's Christmas offerings, I can see all of the folowing flopping:

Stars On The Street
Ad of The Decade
Coastline Cops
The Nolans
Bridget Jones
Corpse Bride
Happy Feet
Mr and Mrs
Poirot
All Star Impressions
The Holiday
An Englishman In New York
Sleep With Me

Some because they sound awful (Stars on The Street, Ad of The Decade, Nolans, Impressions), some because they're in slots that won't work (Happy Feet, Mr and Mrs, Poirot, perhaps The Holiday, Sleep With Me) and I'm expecting An Englishman In New York to flop simply because it does not sound mainstream at all, and whilst I'm sure it'll be good, I just can't see it proving popular.

Its funny how STV takes the show with Englishman in the title out of the schedules but adds in a load of shows about how great Scotland is.

Not much point. Like the whole of the UK on Christmas Day, Scottish viewers tend to opt for BBC1 (Scotland) on Hogmanay by default.



All Star Impressions Show certainly sounds like a programme. Maybe it'll be like a car crash. You know you shouldn't look, but you can't help yourself.

A for this? Surely this will just be a compilation of clips of popular Scottish entertainers from the past. People like Chic Murray, Rikki Fulton and Andy Stewart.

ITV usually ask for more group games, because they are 'guaranteed' fixtures, where they can sell adverts for months in advance. Whereas the latter stages are obviously dependent on England getting through their group.

so the past few tournaments we've seen the BBC get the 2nd round/quarter finals and 1 group game.

so I reckon we'll see ITV get the 2 evening kick offs, and the BBC will get the afternoon group game.

I predict BBC1 to get the Algeria game which is in primetime on a Friday (England's middle game).

Nah, Reggie was always pissed on air - whereas Police Camera Action's Alastair Stewart is only pissed when he's behind the wheel of his car...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...iving-ban.html


Typical ITV - they see BBC1 score a major hit with Countryfile, so they have to do a copycat.

My money's on Lancashire, btw...


I think you need a mix of the two - the football matches are all separate "shows" in their own right, whereas for other programmes like EE and Corrie, just the highest single episode will suffice.



Will be interesting with big games likely against France and Brazil if we get past Australia/Ghana/Germany in the 2nd round. Whereas one might expect ITV to push for the certainty and guaranteed revenue of them having the two primetime group games in return for the Beeb having either or both of the 2nd round and quarter ties, I think given the fair draw and the weight of expectation that ITV might well take a punt on England progressing to at least the quarters and offer the Beeb at least one of the primetime group games and the 2nd round game in return for them gambling on a quarter final and the biggest single audience of 2010 for that match (assuming any semi and the final will be shown on both networks).

I have a feeling ITV will get the England v USA prime-time Saturday match (assuming BGT will have finished its extended run by 12th June...) and the Wednesday afternoon final group game, with BBC1 the Friday night match and the 2nd round game - beyond that, who knows?

Would be interesting to know what the BBC/ITV agreement says for the eventuality that they cannot agree on the divvying up of ties - I read before that there is a set-out procedure in the event of deadlock. I wonder if someone with inside knowledge, GeorgeS perhaps, could give us some pointers?

Still no ratings.

Slightly surprising that DS hasn't updated considering it was the I'm a Celebrity final last night. Let's hope we don't have an absentee of ratings next Sunday or Monday.

On that note I notice ITV are already promoting next weekend with 'The BIG Weekend' trailers.

Im sure next weekend there will be lots of ratings being reported with lots of excited people pretending to be delighted with lower than predicted figures.

I think it is generally one match per competition per channel which would get classed as different programmes in a list

So for 2010 you'd have the highest BBC1 World Cup game, the highest ITV1 World Cup Game, the highest champions league, the highest FA Cup match etc

Where you draw the line with miscellaneous matches such as International qualifiers and friendlies, I don't know.

Wonder how SCD will do in its split format tonight. It probably should have been this way from the start, but so late in the day, you wonder if there's any point. I can't see the 9.40 show picking up large numbers. It was patently obvious who was going when the main show finished at 8, so you'd have to be a big Bette Midler fan to have been desperate to watch the results show.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if the 75-minute Rod Stewart advert runs SCD results close, or better.

SCD was pretty much done before 8pm, so with no real overlap that might have helped TXF reverse its declining ratings trend - even with its wrap-up sequence, SCD was off air by 8.05.


They'll have some pissed off customers if they don't, given what they've charged them...


I'm away for a few days from next Saturday. Regular readers of this thread will no doubt be delighted by that...

You'll have a lot of catching up, me thinks!

SCD should be up from last week. Can't help but think Jay Hunt will be regretting merging the shows IF the results show manages to break 10m.

Yeah right!

With a 3m lead-in and 12 weeks so far without one?

6m tops.

Under-estimating so you can express your delight when you say 'Strictly did much better than what I expected in my view'.

If Brucie reliably informed his audience that Strictly is returning @ 21:40 then it should get over 8m, which is more than the dance off has got for the past few weeks (of course my 10m prediction was deliberately meant to be wide of the margin).

They never should have messed with the split format-the single show just puts it in the same league as alot of the other talent formats the BBC did that turned out to be total dross. Splitting lends more importance to the result.
As for the figures-well it should beat whats on ITV at that time so I guess that would justify its scheduling. Next year the shows need to be split from the start.
Both Merlin and Strictly tonight were very good imo.

Its going to get at least 8m and im sure you would be very disappointed if it got 6m.

On the contrary it won't be the same...

Absolutely not Im sure! Actually, as well, the BBC needs you I think Robbie.

SCD was a bore, that new judge brought absolutely nothing, and with the couple top of the leaderboard against the bottom, the dance-off was a forgone conclusion.

Perhaps they should just be down to the public vote at this stage. Still, there should have been a big post XF audience around curious enough to see what they've been missing.

A bit like rubber necking at a car crash

Im more of a reader than a contributor of this thread these days but there are some serious bores here - you're definetly not one of them - always look forward to your posts!