I don't follow them that closely, but would I be right in saying that the soaps seem really low just now? Particularly EE and Corrie.
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Originally Posted by Georged123:
“It is taking over. They tried plugging it on The Alan Titchmarsh show today with Alan and the audience struggling as to who each of the finalists were but when SCD was criticised they began booing very loudly. Wrong demogrpahic I think.”
“It is taking over. They tried plugging it on The Alan Titchmarsh show today with Alan and the audience struggling as to who each of the finalists were but when SCD was criticised they began booing very loudly. Wrong demogrpahic I think.”
Or a case of:
a) sound effects put over to make it sound like booing?
b) someone telling them to boo?
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Or a case of:
a) sound effects put over to make it sound like booing?
b) someone telling them to boo?”
“Or a case of:
a) sound effects put over to make it sound like booing?
b) someone telling them to boo?”
I dont think you get what I am saying. The audience were booing at the panellist who was saying SCD was not very good.
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“I dont think you get what I am saying. The audience were booing at the panellist who was saying SCD was not very good.”
“I dont think you get what I am saying. The audience were booing at the panellist who was saying SCD was not very good.”
Oh, I see now. Pretty silly to try and promote X Factor and criticise Strictly on that show though to be honest - as you say, wrong demo.
Coronation Street
This year has seen Coronation Street decline once again. I must say, despite some better efforts from production, the storylines have been pretty awful. The Tony/Maria storyline was extremely unrealistic, and I wouldn't be surprised if more people switched off. Also, it's been the one soap that has been messed around with this year. The new Thursday slot hasn't worked, and it's not exactly proving a worthwhile lead-in to The Bill, which seems to have a completely different audience nowadays, anyway.
At least it being the 50th anniversairy next year, the show will get more publicity and ITV will get a chance to turn a new leaf.
High: Its Monday episodes continue to be consistent, whilst the rest of the week suffers.
Low: Its transition to Thursday nights
Possible improvements:-
Give Coronation Street consistent start times for viewers, not messing them around. I'd personally advise a move to Monday (2), Wednesday, (sometimes as it has a lead-in from Emmerdale so should still be familiar to viewers as shown by its outings there recently), Friday at 7:30 and Sunday at 7:30. Dropping one episode on Wednesday just over half of the time could do the quality of the show some good. Also, soaps have to be unpredictably scheduled sometimes when a big storylines arises. So, ITV could make use of an hour episode on Wednesday's and Sunday's, where they don't get rivalry with EastEnders or established shows. Also, keep Coronation Street's extra outings on BGT and IAC finals week, as they work quite well.
EastEnders
EastEnders has generally had a poor year, perhaps better than Coronation Street, but still not great. Its storylines have been incredibly sensational at points, and perhaps a little unnecessary. Although, among these storylines, EastEnders still has the best creative team in my opinion, which can lead to a bit of variety. Last year, it was the Dot monologue. This year, there was the all-black episode and the Stacey mental health storyline. The latter was so believably portrayed, and makes Tony Gordon's panic attack storyline look laughable. However, there are too many returning characters, and the novelty of that is starting to wear off.
And that has shown in its ratings performance this year, which has not been all too inspiring. Lower than last year despite a bigger quantity of storylines this year, one would argue.
High: Despite an absence of juggernaut ratings, it hasn't completely collapsed when pitched against other soaps.
Low: It was unfortunate that its big wedding storyline was quite harshly blocked out by Emmerdale and Coronation Street, which was very sneaky on ITV's part.
Possible improvements:-
Perhaps less big storylines, as the hype is not being created anymore. The Lucas storyline, for example, has not been talked about enough. They should learn lessons from 'Who Shot Phil', and should focus on longer panning out storylines, that lead to a massive storyline (i.e. Phil Mitchell's relationship + alcoholism = he is very unpopular). And the great thing about that was...he survived. The Tom King storyline in Emmerdale did the same thing.
The Lucas storyline has not been explored enough, which is a shame. The Tony Gordon murder storylines on Corrie have also been pretty dense really.
However, the 25th Anniversairy episode gives the show an opportunity, like Corrie's 50th, to get more publicity and to turn a new leaf?
Emmerdale
Its best year in sometime. The new production team has given Emmerdale back some life, and has really struck gold in keeping with quirky traditions with the Dingles and other favourites, whilst creating intelligent storylines (such as the sexuality one with Aaron), which will definitely bring in a younger audience.
Even its 8pm outings have faired well. Also, its move away from the constant clash against EastEnders was a good one. Its OK for Emmerdale to clash with EastEnders in special episodes, but I would avoid it normally.
High: Its mammoth Winter ratings alongside high ratings for The One Show was evidence that Emmerdale could reign superior for a while yet, and it has a loyal audience.
Low: Some Wednesday's have been tough without the presence of Coronation Street (or any other soap at all) after it, and it doesn't fit into a football dominated schedule perhaps.
Possible improvements:-
There aren't many. Ratings have been very consistent, reflecting the quality of storylines. Despite it being pitched against a popular alternative in The One Show. This is why it has performed far better than the other soaps, because it has maintained and increased its viewing audience. The 8pm move has been a good short-term change for storylines, but I wouldn't advise it being anything long-term. Perhaps, an extra episode can be used sparingly on a Thursday, or hour specials can air. Or an hour special on Sunday or Wednesday is possible.
Obviously, this would mean ITV would have to sacrifice one other Emmerdale episode, and that can be the Wednesday one at various points of the year, where ITV can air a movie. Harry Potter, Batman Begins, Bond movies - they all work well in the 7-10pm slot. And if popular movies aired a few times a year, Emmerdale could make up for it with hourly episodes elsewhere.
One hopes Emmerdale can maintain its good form.
This year has seen Coronation Street decline once again. I must say, despite some better efforts from production, the storylines have been pretty awful. The Tony/Maria storyline was extremely unrealistic, and I wouldn't be surprised if more people switched off. Also, it's been the one soap that has been messed around with this year. The new Thursday slot hasn't worked, and it's not exactly proving a worthwhile lead-in to The Bill, which seems to have a completely different audience nowadays, anyway.
At least it being the 50th anniversairy next year, the show will get more publicity and ITV will get a chance to turn a new leaf.
High: Its Monday episodes continue to be consistent, whilst the rest of the week suffers.
Low: Its transition to Thursday nights
Possible improvements:-
Give Coronation Street consistent start times for viewers, not messing them around. I'd personally advise a move to Monday (2), Wednesday, (sometimes as it has a lead-in from Emmerdale so should still be familiar to viewers as shown by its outings there recently), Friday at 7:30 and Sunday at 7:30. Dropping one episode on Wednesday just over half of the time could do the quality of the show some good. Also, soaps have to be unpredictably scheduled sometimes when a big storylines arises. So, ITV could make use of an hour episode on Wednesday's and Sunday's, where they don't get rivalry with EastEnders or established shows. Also, keep Coronation Street's extra outings on BGT and IAC finals week, as they work quite well.
EastEnders
EastEnders has generally had a poor year, perhaps better than Coronation Street, but still not great. Its storylines have been incredibly sensational at points, and perhaps a little unnecessary. Although, among these storylines, EastEnders still has the best creative team in my opinion, which can lead to a bit of variety. Last year, it was the Dot monologue. This year, there was the all-black episode and the Stacey mental health storyline. The latter was so believably portrayed, and makes Tony Gordon's panic attack storyline look laughable. However, there are too many returning characters, and the novelty of that is starting to wear off.
And that has shown in its ratings performance this year, which has not been all too inspiring. Lower than last year despite a bigger quantity of storylines this year, one would argue.
High: Despite an absence of juggernaut ratings, it hasn't completely collapsed when pitched against other soaps.
Low: It was unfortunate that its big wedding storyline was quite harshly blocked out by Emmerdale and Coronation Street, which was very sneaky on ITV's part.
Possible improvements:-
Perhaps less big storylines, as the hype is not being created anymore. The Lucas storyline, for example, has not been talked about enough. They should learn lessons from 'Who Shot Phil', and should focus on longer panning out storylines, that lead to a massive storyline (i.e. Phil Mitchell's relationship + alcoholism = he is very unpopular). And the great thing about that was...he survived. The Tom King storyline in Emmerdale did the same thing.
The Lucas storyline has not been explored enough, which is a shame. The Tony Gordon murder storylines on Corrie have also been pretty dense really.
However, the 25th Anniversairy episode gives the show an opportunity, like Corrie's 50th, to get more publicity and to turn a new leaf?
Emmerdale
Its best year in sometime. The new production team has given Emmerdale back some life, and has really struck gold in keeping with quirky traditions with the Dingles and other favourites, whilst creating intelligent storylines (such as the sexuality one with Aaron), which will definitely bring in a younger audience.
Even its 8pm outings have faired well. Also, its move away from the constant clash against EastEnders was a good one. Its OK for Emmerdale to clash with EastEnders in special episodes, but I would avoid it normally.
High: Its mammoth Winter ratings alongside high ratings for The One Show was evidence that Emmerdale could reign superior for a while yet, and it has a loyal audience.
Low: Some Wednesday's have been tough without the presence of Coronation Street (or any other soap at all) after it, and it doesn't fit into a football dominated schedule perhaps.
Possible improvements:-
There aren't many. Ratings have been very consistent, reflecting the quality of storylines. Despite it being pitched against a popular alternative in The One Show. This is why it has performed far better than the other soaps, because it has maintained and increased its viewing audience. The 8pm move has been a good short-term change for storylines, but I wouldn't advise it being anything long-term. Perhaps, an extra episode can be used sparingly on a Thursday, or hour specials can air. Or an hour special on Sunday or Wednesday is possible.
Obviously, this would mean ITV would have to sacrifice one other Emmerdale episode, and that can be the Wednesday one at various points of the year, where ITV can air a movie. Harry Potter, Batman Begins, Bond movies - they all work well in the 7-10pm slot. And if popular movies aired a few times a year, Emmerdale could make up for it with hourly episodes elsewhere.
One hopes Emmerdale can maintain its good form.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“It's an interesting experiment though, like Jonwo said Miranda worked against Coronation Street, so why not try out other comedies?”
“It's an interesting experiment though, like Jonwo said Miranda worked against Coronation Street, so why not try out other comedies?”
It didn't work terribly well for After You've Gone or Parents of the Band.
I'd expect A Question of Sport to be in the 7.30pm slot the following Friday.
Quote:
“Why would that matter, surely it's good to have Celebrity Mastermind on at 8 on Thursday as it's an established slot for the show?
”
“Why would that matter, surely it's good to have Celebrity Mastermind on at 8 on Thursday as it's an established slot for the show?
”
I think they felt it would be better to complete the Celebrity Mastermind series the day before Mastermind returned from its Christmas hiatus.
I can't see see any logical reason in having two editions of Mastermind back to back on Thursday night. Better to have a break. It seems you want the night's weakest programme (a repeat of Seaside Rescue) in the 7pm slot, simply to boost Emmerdale and kick the legs from under BBC One's Thursday night at the outset.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“ It's supposed to be their big new entertainment show next year, so you'd think the BBC would put it at the centre of primetime!”
“ It's supposed to be their big new entertainment show next year, so you'd think the BBC would put it at the centre of primetime!”
The BBC are not allowed to have dancing shows at the centre of Saturday primetime anymore.
Not sure whether this was officially confirmed on here: http://uk-tv-guide.com/programme-det...her/Game+Show/
Not the best time to launch it against Wallander and Poirot on the main two. If I was Channel 4, I'd have put it on from 8:00pm to 9:30pm so it was at least out of the main 9pm battle.
The eviction in the first week is on at the normal times, 9:00pm to 10:00pm and 10:35pm to 11:05pm on the Friday. Main highlights shows on @ 10pm.
Quote:
“Celebrity Big Brother (Game Show)
Channel 4
Sunday, January 3rd, 2010
9:00pm to 10:20pm (Other show times...)
The Launch.
Davina McCall returns to present the launch show of Celebrity Big Brother as a select group of the notable and notorious enter Britain's most famous TV house for the very first time. Tonight viewers will discover which celebrities will become housemates as well as watching their first moments together as they embark on what could be the most unpredictable and unforgettable few weeks of their lives. Big Brother's Big Mouth follows straight after on E4. Creative.”
“Celebrity Big Brother (Game Show)
Channel 4
Sunday, January 3rd, 2010
9:00pm to 10:20pm (Other show times...)
The Launch.
Davina McCall returns to present the launch show of Celebrity Big Brother as a select group of the notable and notorious enter Britain's most famous TV house for the very first time. Tonight viewers will discover which celebrities will become housemates as well as watching their first moments together as they embark on what could be the most unpredictable and unforgettable few weeks of their lives. Big Brother's Big Mouth follows straight after on E4. Creative.”
Not the best time to launch it against Wallander and Poirot on the main two. If I was Channel 4, I'd have put it on from 8:00pm to 9:30pm so it was at least out of the main 9pm battle.
The eviction in the first week is on at the normal times, 9:00pm to 10:00pm and 10:35pm to 11:05pm on the Friday. Main highlights shows on @ 10pm.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Not sure whether this was officially confirmed on here: http://uk-tv-guide.com/programme-det...her/Game+Show/
Not the best time to launch it against Wallander and Poirot on the main two. If I was Channel 4, I'd have put it on from 8:00pm to 9:30pm so it was at least out of the main 9pm battle.
The eviction in the first week is on at the normal times, 9:00pm to 10:00pm and 10:35pm to 11:05pm on the Friday. Main highlights shows on @ 10pm.”
“Not sure whether this was officially confirmed on here: http://uk-tv-guide.com/programme-det...her/Game+Show/
Not the best time to launch it against Wallander and Poirot on the main two. If I was Channel 4, I'd have put it on from 8:00pm to 9:30pm so it was at least out of the main 9pm battle.
The eviction in the first week is on at the normal times, 9:00pm to 10:00pm and 10:35pm to 11:05pm on the Friday. Main highlights shows on @ 10pm.”
IDK, who on earth likes Wallander AND Big Brother ???
Originally Posted by Wryip:
“Janurary-March
Monday
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Cheap day time filler.
8.00 - Eastenders
8.30 - Masterchef
Tuesday
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders (1 hour)
8.30 - Masterchef
Wednesday
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Holby City
8.30 - Masterchef
Thursday
7.00 - One show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.00 - Question of Sport
8.30 - Masterchef
Friday
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Watchdog
8.30 - Masterchef
Advantages - Masterchef gets a regular slot like it had on BBC2 and will probably get viewers on a Tuesday and Wednesday and hopeful take some away from Corrie later in the week. The One show just shows half hour shows no one hour shows. Eastenders drops its Friday episode as it is often the lowest rated and it can give Fridays later in the year a more entertainment feel. Panaroma would air Tuesdays or Wednesdays after the news in 45-50 minute slots so it can better tell a story and show more hard hitting programmes.
April - June
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Bang goes the theory
8.00 - Eastenders
8.30 - Cheap daytime filler
Tuesdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.30 - Top of the pops (3 month trial)
Wednesday
7.00 - One show
7.30 - Holby City
8.30 - Waterloo Road (until 9.30 followed by comedy)
Thursdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.00 - Documentaries ie. Traffic Cops
Fridays
7.00 - Eastenders
7.30 - Watchdog
8.30 - Question of Sport
The top of the pops trial would last 3 months to see if it could be a success provided an Eastenders lead in if it were to be a success it would eventual move to Thursdays at 8.00. Since ITV1 on a Wednesday often show football or 150 minute award ceremonies there shouldn't be much problem in showing Waterloo Road at 8.30 and its 5 million viewers sould provide a good lead in to 9.30 comedy perhaps Would I lie to you or QI.
July- September
Mondays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Cheap day time filler
8.00 - Eastenders
8.30 - Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef Proffessionals
Tusedays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.30 - Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef Proffessionals
Wednesdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Holby
8.30 - Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef Proffessionals
Thursdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.00 - TOTP
8.30 - Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef Proffessionals
Fridays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Watchdog
8.30 - Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef Proffessionals
October - December
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Bang Goes the Theory
8.00 - Eastenders
8.30 - Cheap daytime filler
Tuesdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.30 - Sitcom
Wednesdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Holby City
8.30 - Waterloo Road
Thursdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.00 - TOTP
8.30 - Sitcom
Fridays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Watchdog
8.30 - Strictly (until 10)”
“Janurary-March
Monday
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Cheap day time filler.
8.00 - Eastenders
8.30 - Masterchef
Tuesday
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders (1 hour)
8.30 - Masterchef
Wednesday
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Holby City
8.30 - Masterchef
Thursday
7.00 - One show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.00 - Question of Sport
8.30 - Masterchef
Friday
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Watchdog
8.30 - Masterchef
Advantages - Masterchef gets a regular slot like it had on BBC2 and will probably get viewers on a Tuesday and Wednesday and hopeful take some away from Corrie later in the week. The One show just shows half hour shows no one hour shows. Eastenders drops its Friday episode as it is often the lowest rated and it can give Fridays later in the year a more entertainment feel. Panaroma would air Tuesdays or Wednesdays after the news in 45-50 minute slots so it can better tell a story and show more hard hitting programmes.
April - June
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Bang goes the theory
8.00 - Eastenders
8.30 - Cheap daytime filler
Tuesdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.30 - Top of the pops (3 month trial)
Wednesday
7.00 - One show
7.30 - Holby City
8.30 - Waterloo Road (until 9.30 followed by comedy)
Thursdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.00 - Documentaries ie. Traffic Cops
Fridays
7.00 - Eastenders
7.30 - Watchdog
8.30 - Question of Sport
The top of the pops trial would last 3 months to see if it could be a success provided an Eastenders lead in if it were to be a success it would eventual move to Thursdays at 8.00. Since ITV1 on a Wednesday often show football or 150 minute award ceremonies there shouldn't be much problem in showing Waterloo Road at 8.30 and its 5 million viewers sould provide a good lead in to 9.30 comedy perhaps Would I lie to you or QI.
July- September
Mondays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Cheap day time filler
8.00 - Eastenders
8.30 - Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef Proffessionals
Tusedays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.30 - Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef Proffessionals
Wednesdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Holby
8.30 - Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef Proffessionals
Thursdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.00 - TOTP
8.30 - Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef Proffessionals
Fridays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Watchdog
8.30 - Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef Proffessionals
October - December
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Bang Goes the Theory
8.00 - Eastenders
8.30 - Cheap daytime filler
Tuesdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.30 - Sitcom
Wednesdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Holby City
8.30 - Waterloo Road
Thursdays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Eastenders
8.00 - TOTP
8.30 - Sitcom
Fridays
7.00 - One Show
7.30 - Watchdog
8.30 - Strictly (until 10)”
I think this would be the perfect BBC One fantasy schedule ... for an ITV executive!
Holby City moved from its established and successful slot. So that's the Tuesday schedule destabilised for starters.
EastEnders removed from Fridays, thereby collapsing the Friday night schedule. Then moved back but in a silly slot.
Top of the Pops squandering the EastEnders inheritance. And moving days for good measure.
Loads of junctions out of sync with the other major channels, meaning people won't switch over to BBC One after watching a show on another channel.
Oh well, at least there's no Bullesye!
Some new shows on Channel 4 for the 5pm slot next year:
Source: Broadcast
So, the rumours were true about Olga TV producing a new 5pm show similar to the POG Show. Around 1.5-2m would be decent. I think the cooking show will do okay.
Quote:
“Channel 4 is lining up a UK version of Japanese gladiatorial ‘cook-off ’ format Iron Chef as a stripped weekday show. The series, to air next spring, is the first major project for former ITV controller of daytime Adam MacDonald since joining RDF Media’s Scottish subsidiary IWC Media this summer. From Monday to Thursday, four professional ‘iron chefs’ will take on four amateurs in a high-pressured contest. The fifth episode each week will see the best chef and best amateur go head-to-head, with £1,000 up for grabs. A yet-to-be-named host will act as a roving reporter and commentator, and the chefs will be aiming to please a Japanese chairman and set of demanding judges. The format is already a big-budget primetime show in the US for Food Network, attracting the likes of Jamie Oliver. But C4 head of daytime Helen Warner promised the UK version would be tongue-in-cheek. “They all take it very seriously, but it’s a giant piss-take really - like cooking in a stadium with a commentator,” she said. MacDonald, who commissioned Deal Or No Deal and Come Dine With Me for C4 before moving to ITV, will executive-produce the Iron Chef series, which is set for a 25 x 60-minute run at 5pm over five weeks.
Warner also confirmed that Olga TV will continue to produce a 5pm chat show despite Paul O’Grady’s departure from the channel. The show, which may be called The 5 O’Clock Show, will change its host for each week of the initial eight-week run. “People like Peter Andre, Fern Britton, Joanna Page and Jo Brand did well as guest hosts when Paul was away,” said Warner. “They felt comfortable, and that gave us the confidence to go for it - we can get a different buzz each week.” O’Grady will stay on as executive producer alongside Robert Gray, and is hoped to make the occasional appearance.”
“Channel 4 is lining up a UK version of Japanese gladiatorial ‘cook-off ’ format Iron Chef as a stripped weekday show. The series, to air next spring, is the first major project for former ITV controller of daytime Adam MacDonald since joining RDF Media’s Scottish subsidiary IWC Media this summer. From Monday to Thursday, four professional ‘iron chefs’ will take on four amateurs in a high-pressured contest. The fifth episode each week will see the best chef and best amateur go head-to-head, with £1,000 up for grabs. A yet-to-be-named host will act as a roving reporter and commentator, and the chefs will be aiming to please a Japanese chairman and set of demanding judges. The format is already a big-budget primetime show in the US for Food Network, attracting the likes of Jamie Oliver. But C4 head of daytime Helen Warner promised the UK version would be tongue-in-cheek. “They all take it very seriously, but it’s a giant piss-take really - like cooking in a stadium with a commentator,” she said. MacDonald, who commissioned Deal Or No Deal and Come Dine With Me for C4 before moving to ITV, will executive-produce the Iron Chef series, which is set for a 25 x 60-minute run at 5pm over five weeks.
Warner also confirmed that Olga TV will continue to produce a 5pm chat show despite Paul O’Grady’s departure from the channel. The show, which may be called The 5 O’Clock Show, will change its host for each week of the initial eight-week run. “People like Peter Andre, Fern Britton, Joanna Page and Jo Brand did well as guest hosts when Paul was away,” said Warner. “They felt comfortable, and that gave us the confidence to go for it - we can get a different buzz each week.” O’Grady will stay on as executive producer alongside Robert Gray, and is hoped to make the occasional appearance.”
Source: Broadcast
So, the rumours were true about Olga TV producing a new 5pm show similar to the POG Show. Around 1.5-2m would be decent. I think the cooking show will do okay.
Originally Posted by C14E:
“I don't follow them that closely, but would I be right in saying that the soaps seem really low just now? Particularly EE and Corrie.”
“I don't follow them that closely, but would I be right in saying that the soaps seem really low just now? Particularly EE and Corrie.”
I think that has something todo with late night shopping
EastEnders 10pm Reapt is higher then usual at over 800,000 so i think that shows people are catching up.
Im sure all soaps will be back up in the week of xmas
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Not sure whether this was officially confirmed on here: http://uk-tv-guide.com/programme-det...her/Game+Show/
Not the best time to launch it against Wallander and Poirot on the main two. If I was Channel 4, I'd have put it on from 8:00pm to 9:30pm so it was at least out of the main 9pm battle.
The eviction in the first week is on at the normal times, 9:00pm to 10:00pm and 10:35pm to 11:05pm on the Friday. Main highlights shows on @ 10pm.”
“Not sure whether this was officially confirmed on here: http://uk-tv-guide.com/programme-det...her/Game+Show/
Not the best time to launch it against Wallander and Poirot on the main two. If I was Channel 4, I'd have put it on from 8:00pm to 9:30pm so it was at least out of the main 9pm battle.
The eviction in the first week is on at the normal times, 9:00pm to 10:00pm and 10:35pm to 11:05pm on the Friday. Main highlights shows on @ 10pm.”
It does however have a lead in from the premiere of The Simpsons Movie which runs 19:15 - 21:00.
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“I think this would be the perfect BBC One fantasy schedule ... for an ITV executive!
Holby City moved from its established and successful slot. So that's the Tuesday schedule destabilised for starters.
EastEnders removed from Fridays, thereby collapsing the Friday night schedule. Then moved back but in a silly slot.
Top of the Pops squandering the EastEnders inheritance. And moving days for good measure.
Loads of junctions out of sync with the other major channels, meaning people won't switch over to BBC One after watching a show on another channel.
Oh well, at least there's no Bullesye!”
“I think this would be the perfect BBC One fantasy schedule ... for an ITV executive!
Holby City moved from its established and successful slot. So that's the Tuesday schedule destabilised for starters.
EastEnders removed from Fridays, thereby collapsing the Friday night schedule. Then moved back but in a silly slot.
Top of the Pops squandering the EastEnders inheritance. And moving days for good measure.
Loads of junctions out of sync with the other major channels, meaning people won't switch over to BBC One after watching a show on another channel.
Oh well, at least there's no Bullesye!
”
TOPT wouldn't waste an EE leads in its attracting the target audience, and it would only be on the Tuesday for 3 months in order to establish itself because following Eastenders at 8.30 means people are less likely to channel hop. However once established moving back to its old Thurday night home opposite ED would be a more ideal permanent home.
As for the programmes starting at disjointed times well, already most shows on BBC1 and itv1 start at half hours between 7 and 9. The only day this would stretch to half nine would be a Wednesday, traditionally the day that ITV1 shows football or 2 hour dramas so again that wuldn't impact on audiences.
As for GeorgeS's comment I would put strictly on for a 45 minute LIVE show on a Saturday 7.15-8.00 thereby avoiding X Factor and combined with Merlin at 6.30 (a later time than it is at present) this provides a strong early evening for BBC1 with Casualty and a Lottery Show providing the cannon fodder for X Factor.
Not massively related to ratings, but I thought I'd note it now ahead of the weekend:
- both Tesco and Asda are running promotions for the weekend, Tesco are having 'X-cepetional Offers For The Big Weekend', while Asda have 'A great line up for The Big Final'.
- Marks and Spencer's have similar: 'This weekend's £10 dine is not to be missed'.
Wonder if we'll get any reports on here on Saturday of shops and supermarkets being dead in the evening?
- both Tesco and Asda are running promotions for the weekend, Tesco are having 'X-cepetional Offers For The Big Weekend', while Asda have 'A great line up for The Big Final'.
- Marks and Spencer's have similar: 'This weekend's £10 dine is not to be missed'.
Wonder if we'll get any reports on here on Saturday of shops and supermarkets being dead in the evening?
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Vernon Kay is not worth £900,000 a year.”
“Vernon Kay is not worth £900,000 a year.”
Well if Jonathan Ross is the bench mark, he's worth far more than that! At least he has a prime-time hit format, not a couple of late-night shows.
Originally Posted by Wryip:
“Thats a nawful figure for the football. I know the match didn't matter and it was Arsenal rather than Liverpool or Man United but struggling to get above 3m is bad I bet FIVE must be delighted about Liverpool being in the UEFA cup I wouldn't be too suprised if their matches got similar or more than Arsenal last night.”
“Thats a nawful figure for the football. I know the match didn't matter and it was Arsenal rather than Liverpool or Man United but struggling to get above 3m is bad I bet FIVE must be delighted about Liverpool being in the UEFA cup I wouldn't be too suprised if their matches got similar or more than Arsenal last night.”
How did Sky Sports compare?
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Channel 4 seems to have had a bit of an upturn in the past week or so... has something happened? (or is it just better programming?)”
“Channel 4 seems to have had a bit of an upturn in the past week or so... has something happened? (or is it just better programming?)”
All thanks to Kirstie Allsopp. Perhaps The Kirstie Allsopp Show nightly at 8pm could be the answer to all C4's problems!
Originally Posted by James J:
“So is Tonight losing an episode?”
“So is Tonight losing an episode?”
Yes, it was confirmed a few weeks back it would be cut to one episode a week, and Julie Etchingham will be the new Trevor McDonald.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Does anyone else think ITV have missed a trick by not having an 'X Factor Preview' show on Friday @ 20:00 for 30 minutes, showing bits from the performances from the finalists in their home town as well as tidbits from the press conference?”
“Does anyone else think ITV have missed a trick by not having an 'X Factor Preview' show on Friday @ 20:00 for 30 minutes, showing bits from the performances from the finalists in their home town as well as tidbits from the press conference?”
Not really as it would probably have rated relatively poorly (around the 8m mark or so).
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Since when have The Impression Show and QI been Friday night pre-watershed shows?”
“Since when have The Impression Show and QI been Friday night pre-watershed shows?”
IIRC The Impressions Show was originally intended for a pre-watershed slot.
Also, I don't know whether anyone noticed this, but I can see the reason now why the Saturday's figures for X Factor are lower... look at the ITV2 figures for just after midnight:
October 17th - 7 THE X FACTOR (Sat 25:00) 580
October 24th - 10 THE X FACTOR (Sat 25:32) 487
October 31st - 4 THE X FACTOR (Sat 24:16) 713
November 7th - 6 THE X FACTOR (Sat 24:05) 652
November 14th - 7 THE X FACTOR (Sat 24:04) 614
Last two weeks: < 600,000
That is pretty damn good! Imagine if the repeat this weekend get nearly 1m at that time?!
It probably beats ITV1 in the timeslot. So when we say Saturday gets considerably less than Sunday, it appears that actually isn't really the case.
October 17th - 7 THE X FACTOR (Sat 25:00) 580
October 24th - 10 THE X FACTOR (Sat 25:32) 487
October 31st - 4 THE X FACTOR (Sat 24:16) 713
November 7th - 6 THE X FACTOR (Sat 24:05) 652
November 14th - 7 THE X FACTOR (Sat 24:04) 614
Last two weeks: < 600,000
That is pretty damn good!
Imagine if the repeat this weekend get nearly 1m at that time?!It probably beats ITV1 in the timeslot. So when we say Saturday gets considerably less than Sunday, it appears that actually isn't really the case.
Re last week's Small Island with it's 5 million audience.
The ratings summary column into today's Broadcast states "an unwavering audience stuck with the BBC drama throughout."
5 million against the X Factor reveal? Possible? (Although the most recent comment on the Small Island thread says "I did enjoy it but really can't be bothered to watch it again to try and work it out.")
The ratings summary column into today's Broadcast states "an unwavering audience stuck with the BBC drama throughout."
5 million against the X Factor reveal? Possible? (Although the most recent comment on the Small Island thread says "I did enjoy it but really can't be bothered to watch it again to try and work it out."
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Has anyone heard anything about why BBC One missed out an edition of Hole in the Wall? Ten new shows were made this year, together with a highlights edition, but nine have been shown, with the highlights edition being scheduled for tomorrow night.
But now some listings (e.g Ceefax) are saying tomorrow night's compilation has been dropped for a straightforward repeat of an earlier edition.
A simple scheduling decision, or an embarrassed celeb not wanting to be seen coming a cropper against a lump of polystyrene?
But now some listings (e.g Ceefax) are saying tomorrow night's compilation has been dropped for a straightforward repeat of an earlier edition.
A simple scheduling decision, or an embarrassed celeb not wanting to be seen coming a cropper against a lump of polystyrene?
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“
IIRC The Impressions Show was originally intended for a pre-watershed slot.”
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IIRC The Impressions Show was originally intended for a pre-watershed slot.”
Judging by the quality of some of the comedy, about 4 and a half hours pre-watershed on a weekday.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“5 million against the X Factor reveal? Possible? (Although the most recent comment on the Small Island thread says "I did enjoy it but really can't be bothered to watch it again to try and work it out.")”
“5 million against the X Factor reveal? Possible? (Although the most recent comment on the Small Island thread says "I did enjoy it but really can't be bothered to watch it again to try and work it out."
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Not possible. I don't think it'll have a 6 million lead-in, in my view SPOTY will do badly. I think it'll be under 4m, the second half of the show from say 21:45 onwards may save it from getting embarrassing ratings.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Not possible. I don't think it'll have a 6 million lead-in, in my view SPOTY will do badly. I think it'll be under 4m, the second half of the show from say 21:45 onwards may save it from getting embarrassing ratings.”
“Not possible. I don't think it'll have a 6 million lead-in, in my view SPOTY will do badly. I think it'll be under 4m, the second half of the show from say 21:45 onwards may save it from getting embarrassing ratings.”
I can see a 6 million lead in as it will peak at the end so 6 million watching BBC1 at 9pm is not out of the question. Also in previous weeks when X Factor has peaked with 16 million BBC1 has still had 5.5 million watching. There is a decent sized audience of people that have no interest in X Factor and will watch anything else.
Trailers for Take Me Out will feature during XF on Sat & Sun nights according to Paddy McGuinness on Twitter.
Starting early.
Another reason to watch then.
Starting early.
Another reason to watch then.
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