Ratings Thread (Part 5)

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KennyT

13-12-2009

Originally Posted by CloudCampos:
“... so it could be that a lot of people watched the show in groups (either at a friend's house or down the pub) and those simply aren't included in the ratings.”

Presumably because people in BARB houses wouldn't throw...

(damn, can't think of a synonym for parties, that sounds like "stones"!)

farmermike

13-12-2009

In my part of the world (North East), the BBC has been hyping X Factor as if it was one of their own shows. Vote Joe has been the lead on all the BBC local news programmes. There was an item on Radio 5 on Friday afternoon when I was hoping to listen to film reviews. This morning it was a main story on the BBC Radio 4 7.00am news. They went on to say that ITV was ending the year in a much healthier state than it started. Can you over hype and put people off?

Let's not forget how well Merlin has done, despite being moved all over the place. A really good family show.

Andy23

13-12-2009

A quick question, when will the official ratings for this weekend come out, will it be before Christmas?

EuroChris

13-12-2009

Originally Posted by farmermike:
“In my part of the world (North East), the BBC has been hyping X Factor as if it was one of their own shows. Vote Joe has been the lead on all the BBC local news programmes. There was an item on Radio 5 on Friday afternoon when I was hoping to listen to film reviews. This morning it was a main story on the BBC Radio 4 7.00am news. They went on to say that ITV was ending the year in a much healthier state than it started. Can you over hype and put people off?

Let's not forget how well Merlin has done, despite being moved all over the place. A really good family show.”

Look North must have had an X Factor story on all of their evening bulletins this week if I remember rightly. Strange. Real Radio have been bigging up X Factor for weeks as well, between every song, X Factor and Joe were mentioned either through promos or the presenters themselves. :yawn:

Last nights Merlin episode was fantastic and 5 million is brilliant because, as you say, has been moved around the schedules a lot.

KennyT

13-12-2009

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“A quick question, when will the official ratings for this weekend come out, will it be before Christmas?”

Should be out on 23rd?

K

scizophonic

13-12-2009

Originally Posted by HausOfGaGa:
“Lots of silly excuses going on here.

This was a major hyped event and that rating is awful. Tonight they will be lucky to match it.”

Anything less than the predicted 20m tonight and I think there will be some red faces in ITV HQ tomorrow morning. Of course if Jedward were still there last night would have had at least 2m more...

In all seriousness I wouldn't describe last night's rating as poor. How can it be? But it is way down on what people were expecting and doesn't exactly bode well for this evening. I still think 14-15m tops tonight. No way will it be 20m. The peak might be higher than 15m but the average won't be. Don't forget it's another 2 hours worth which I cannot believe. A 4 hour final across two nights with unbelievable padding and people wonder why it was down last night...Of course if it was Strictly Come Dancing having that much padding this thread would be full of criticism for it...

newkid30

13-12-2009

I never watch TXF but was in my sisters house last night, her and my niece Love it.
After half an hour my niece asked could she put on Home Alone DVD, it was 'sort of boring', I don't really like the ones left. Now she's young, only 7 but given that the audience watching TV was up on last week, and rating was down, alot of people must have tuned out. Actually I've had no X Factor comments on Facebook compared to Jedward, when the show peaked.

claire2281

13-12-2009

Originally Posted by EuroChris:
“Last nights Merlin episode was fantastic and 5 million is brilliant because, as you say, has been moved around the schedules a lot.”

Absolutely. I think the BBC can see that it has a loyal audience now which is why they recommissioned it weeks ago rather than waiting until after the series like they often do. It tends to get quite a boost in the finals too so hopefully this is another one up around 6 million. It deserves it for such an excellent episode.

I would suspect XFactor is down simply because the final 3 aren't all that. I know I couldn't be arsed to sit down and watch that whole thing for six performances by those lot. I had it on in the background and only actually paid attention when they were singing (and then I only really watched it for Buble). It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people thought 'stuff that!' and decided it'd be simpler just to watch the performances on YouTube...

scizophonic

13-12-2009

Yeah the mundane finalists probably played a part as well. It became very predictable a while ago in the same way SCD did. I stopped tuning into the performance show and started to just watch the Sunday one and now I've cut back to just the result segments. That's all people want really that's why the ratings have been higher on a Sunday. The show is now unbelievably padded and I don't really need or particularly want to hear these boring finalists chew their way through more than one song per show. Some of the padding has been ridiculous and I still can't get over the hysteria every time the judges come out like gods. It's gone beyond pantomime.

Also maybe Cheryl ABH Cole is proving a turn off. Her "night in" didn't exactly set the ratings alight did it? She's certainly lost something this series.

We didn't hear the last of how awful the padding in SCD was yet you could narrow X Factor down to half an hour or less if you just watched the relevant bits and skipped the two dozens ad breaks, padding, fake arguments from the judges and Dermot's monotone links to Camera.

D.M.N.

13-12-2009

I have to admit that I detest the segments with Jeff Brazier etc... in the final getting squashed at some hometown... seems slightly unnecessary IMO.

Andy23

13-12-2009

The only way it was ever going to get 20m was if you take the ultimate peak at the time the winner is announced and then round it up to the nearest 5m, but when did tabloids care about accuracy anyway?

I expected around 13.5-14.0m last night what with it being a 2 hour show, so it was about a million or two lower than I expected.

craig-maclellan

13-12-2009

This is all getting really, really tedious:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/...-x-factor.html

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/strictly...-strictly.html

Roll on January when we'll have NOTHING to talk about...apart from DOI...and SYTYCD?

rzt

13-12-2009

Saturday 12th December Roundup
BBC One
17:10- BBC News: 4.02m (24.9%)
17:20- Regional News: 4.56m (27.4%)
17:30- Hole in the Wall: 3.61m (20.6%)
18:00- Merlin: 5.22m (25.1%)
18:45- Strictly Come Dancing: 8.10m (33.3%)
* peak: 9.11m (38.0%) at 19:25
20:00- The National Lottery Draws: 4.29m (17.4%)
20:10- Casualty: 3.91m (15.2%)
21:00- The Impressions Show: 3.30m (12.9%)
21:30- Strictly Come Dancing Results: 7.74m (31.0%)
* peak: 8.59m (34.5%) at 21:55
22:00- BBC News: 5.61m (25.1%)
22:25- Match of the Day: 3.68m (23.0%)

BBC Two
17:30- Coast: 1.93m (10.2%)
18:30- Dad’s Army: 2.44m (11.1%)
19:00- Snooker: UK Championship: Semi Final: 1.66m (6.6%)
22:10- The Thick of It: 834,000 (4.0%)
22:40- Pulling Special: 568,000 (3.6%)

ITV1
17:30- Regional News: 2.38m (13.9%)
17:45- ITV News & Weather: 2.64m (14.6%)
18:00- Harry Hill’s The Best of TV Burp: 4.34m (21.3%)
18:30- Cheryl Cole’s Night In: 5.02m (22.1%)
19:30- The X Factor Final: 12.36m (48.0%)
* peak: 14.46m (54.1%) at 21:20
21:30- The British Comedy Awards 2009: 4.81m (22.0%)
23:00- ITV News & Weather: 2.42m (14.9%)

Channel 4
17:20- Jingle All The Way: 1.28m (6.5%)
19:00- Channel 4 News: 781,000 (3.3%)
19:30- Come Dine with Me Extra Portions: 456,000 (1.7%)
20:00- Come Dine with Me Extra Portions: 757,000 (3.0%)
20:30- Come Dine with Me Extra Portions: 735,000 (2.8%)
21:00- Come Dine with Me Extra Portions: 913,000 (3.6%)
21:30- The Shawshank Redemption: 1.4m (8%)

Five
17:05- The Omega Man: 577,000 (2.8%)
19:05- Five News: 619,000 (2.7%)
19:10- NCIS: 717,000 (2.9%)
20:05- CSI: NY: 882,000 (3.4%)
21:00- CSI: 937,000 (3.7%)
22:00- Law and Order: SVU: 1.07m (5.2%)
22:55- CSI: NY: 857,000 (6.0%)

ITV2
21:30- The Xtra Factor: 1.2m

Primetime Shares
ITV1: 36.0%
BBC One: 23.6%
BBC Two: 6.1%
C4: 4.0%
Five: 3.7%

X Factor Final: 15 minute Breakdown
19:30-19:45: 9.83m (37.8%)
19:45-20:00: 10.81m (41.2%)
20:00-20:15: 12.57m (50.1%)
20:15-20:30: 12.92m (50.9%)
20:30-20:45: 13.22m (51.6%)
20:45-21:00: 13.79m (52.6%)
21:00-21:15: 13.14m (51.6%)
21:15-21:30: 12.59m (48.7%)

All Channels: 5 minute Breakdown

Code:

Time	TotalTV	BBC1	BBC2	ITV1	CH4	Five
17:00	15218.8	3371.4	1453.8	2183.6	177.5	566.6
17:05	15521.9	3496.4	1467.5	2288.7	185.5	560.8
17:10	15995	3770.8	1576.6	2426.1	193.2	567.4
17:15	16336.2	4277.1	1475.8	2489.3	205.1	528.8
17:20	16624.7	4671.8	997	2473.3	423.8	578.4
17:25	16674.4	4447.5	1147.3	2020.6	774.3	612.8
17:30	16807.1	3400.8	1462.3	2225.9	1045.4	685.8
17:35	17067.4	3279.4	1636.9	2446	1121.9	588.6
17:40	17341.5	3360.7	1685	2461.8	1141.5	647.2
17:45	17639.8	3549.8	1770.7	2439.6	1221.2	700.1
17:50	18056.1	3777	1858.6	2707.4	1229.2	648.6
17:55	18314.2	4301.4	1998.3	2758.5	1284.7	575.3
18:00	19457.2	4508.7	2035.2	3819.1	1444	584.5
18:05	20037.8	4621.5	2067.4	4191.9	1368.9	557.9
18:10	20396.8	4763.1	2107.2	4290.9	1413.4	556.8
18:15	20593.7	4939	2098.9	4393.2	1564.8	491.5
18:20	20980.1	4965.4	2105.3	4976.9	1534.5	510
18:25	20957.6	5377	2339.2	4397.8	1511.7	552.8
18:30	21306.3	5689.8	2394.3	4530.6	1510.8	549.4
18:35	21722	5841.4	2513.4	4672.7	1554.6	438.7
18:40	21898.2	6238.7	2583.3	4379.5	1647.6	466.6
18:45	21979.5	6113.1	2535.5	4733.8	1696.4	537.6
18:50	22608.7	6912.8	2462.1	4794.1	1298.7	609.7
18:55	22744.5	7731.1	2129.1	4797.6	746.4	713.1
19:00	22947.9	8504.1	980.7	5246.8	822.9	580.8
19:05	23221.8	8703.3	971.3	5162.2	871.3	619.3
19:10	23202.9	8702	1027.1	4998.9	801.4	623.4
19:15	23531.6	8849.6	988.8	5406.3	768.2	653.2
19:20	23748.2	8856.6	1017.7	5641	711.2	615.1
19:25	23938.2	9112.8	1167.1	5860.1	713.6	599.6
19:30	25178.6	8573.2	1044	8574.6	573.5	658.8
19:35	26169.8	8310.8	981.9	10160.6	536.1	683.2
19:40	26748.3	8270.9	989.8	10756.4	398.8	687.3
19:45	26016.2	8254.2	1039.7	9898.4	396.7	758.9
19:50	26073.4	7998.4	1172.4	10126	411.2	767.3
19:55	26531.8	6607.5	1220.9	12400.4	421.3	790
20:00	24691	4229.5	1528.3	11986.5	658.2	1054.3
20:05	24637.8	4352	1277.3	11862.2	868.9	781
20:10	25876.7	3710.3	1323.2	13875.2	654.6	908
20:15	25497.2	3786.5	1387.6	13380.1	720.8	918.8
20:20	24897.2	4032.6	1535.8	11635.4	988.1	883.2
20:25	25863.8	3849	1392.2	13751.4	655.2	940.2
20:30	26099.4	3868.7	1418.5	14137	624.2	914.3
20:35	25714.5	3836.5	1567.2	13625.6	732.9	903.2
20:40	25038.4	4025	1823.8	11911	896.7	929.5
20:45	25843.9	3930.1	1759.2	13532.5	665.3	875.2
20:50	26369	3961.2	1774.7	13852.3	805.8	872.4
20:55	26435.8	4058.5	1833.9	13971.8	689.7	779.6
21:00	25334.4	2822.5	1854.8	13707.2	789.2	909.2
21:05	25013.3	3104.7	2167.1	12133.5	932.1	955.3
21:10	26052.7	2986.9	2166.7	13588.1	928.9	912.7
21:15	25352.9	3217.1	2192.4	12222.2	998.9	983.3
21:20	26728.6	3041.5	1980	14461.9	946.3	887.8
21:25	25450.9	4626.2	2213.7	11073.5	886.4	975.9
21:30	24736.5	6828.8	2545.8	5865.8	887.5	1088.9
21:35	25003.7	7405.7	2434.8	5469.3	1051.5	964.9
21:40	25145.2	7653	2468.5	5325.4	1066.6	946.3
21:45	25170.7	7856.6	2469.1	5291.4	1125.4	978.1
21:50	24865.4	8080.1	2702.9	4550.9	1046.9	941.5
21:55	24878.3	8592.7	2724	4413.9	1128.9	698.4
22:00	23663	6652.5	2226.5	4946.8	1402.1	971.6
22:05	22568	5371.8	1790	4677.8	1499.5	1028.3
22:10	22021.6	5667.5	944.7	4402.9	1613.1	1128.4
22:15	21940.2	5477.7	787	4977.4	1515.2	1139.2
22:20	21322.8	4868	864.5	4573.1	1337.9	1116.4
22:25	20485.4	3879	860	4853.1	1426.4	1116.3
22:30	19935	4048.9	800.2	4620.4	1568.6	1117
22:35	19524.9	4045.9	750.5	4764.3	1573.9	1077
22:40	19084.2	4122.9	491.9	4797.7	1582.7	1079.9
22:45	18573.3	4242.4	471.5	4366.2	1573.8	1104.8
22:50	18137.9	4246.4	468.9	4317.5	1444.3	878.6
22:55	17512.1	3805.9	501	4401	1376.2	788.8
23:00	16779.8	3917.9	685.9	2695.4	1588.6	868.4
23:05	16279.5	3796.3	679.6	2358.1	1664.5	850
23:10	15718.5	3815.4	569.3	2215.2	1616.6	901.8
23:15	14603.9	3751.9	535.2	1667	1594.8	932.1
23:20	13860.5	3638.6	645.9	1298.6	1321.1	932
23:25	13133.6	3456.6	593.5	1166.3	1186.6	901.9
23:30	12657	3218.8	601.1	1094.5	1327.9	915.3
23:35	12346	3147.3	570.6	1045	1378.1	833.2
23:40	11695.4	2811.1	384.2	1039.4	1423.7	788.6
23:45	11085.4	2590.3	302.5	884.1	1507	715.8
23:50	10228.5	1850	388.1	1086.3	1204.5	497.9
23:55	9505.3	1357.9	391.3	1054.1	1353.4	430.2

Sprogg

13-12-2009

The X Factor has been completely over-hyped, hit its peak too early, relied on one act to carry it through this series, has been left with 3 (2 now) pretty dull/mediocre finalists and totally MILKED. ITV shouldn't have got greedy and kept it to one night for the final or at the very least only had 60-75 minutes a night.

I think this series has accelerated the process of TXF burning itself out. BGT (essentially a very similar show) hit massive heights this year and with both shows being so embedded into the public consciousness in such a short time (BGT live shows - relatively small gap - X Factor), The Cowell machine is becoming totally over-exposed.

Obviously, the rating isn't disasterous but it's a sign of things to come. Ratings for both XF and BGT can't possibly keep going up and up. Next year I think both shows will see significant falls. 2009 has been the year it just all got too big. I suggest they start alternating XF and BGT each year instead of running them both - that's if ITV have any inclination to save both shows in the long term or prefer to pursue the short term headline ratings.

D.M.N.

13-12-2009

The audience after 8pm appears to disappear somewhat, 25.6m watching between 20:00 and 21:30, a dip of 2m after the first Strictly finished from 26.5m to 24.6m.

If we are to remove the clash period from TXF, we get an average of 13.04m (50.9%). It seems like the first half an hour did dent it significantly.

Chris1964

13-12-2009

It is rather weird because alot of shows last night were down on what might have been expected. It seems like the Jedward effect has been a little counterproductive and in Deal or no Deal terms probably went a round too early. I think the ratings would have been much greater last night if they were still in.The peculiarity being that they could not sing any better than many could at a Karaoke machine. The gift that Simon Cowell has is that he presents a love/hate relationship to the public-but crucially the people who dont like him tune in too as they want to see him fall flat on his face. Jedward leaving arguably removed that threat.

At the end of the day 12 million is 3 million or more more than anything else so its still remarkable, however maybe the manipulative masters running the show have had their first slight reverse in two years in the last few weeks.

Oh and echoing a number of others, Merlin was brilliant last night and deservedly got over 5 million. Bringing that kind of show to tv and it looking so good is a testament to the actors and the background team.

Rooftopcowboy

13-12-2009

The XFactor rating was surprisingly low, but I still feel tonight will do well.

I feel many are simply just going to watch the 're-caps' on tonight's show and went out last night instead.

Contrary to some posters opinions i thought last nights show was good, and it didn't feel dragged out to me either.

James J

13-12-2009

That's dismal for last night, lower than last year's final.

I can only think many people treated it as the semi-final and recorded it with tonight the big "live" event.

GeorgeS

13-12-2009

Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“It is rather weird because alot of shows last night were down on what might have been expected. It seems like the Jedward effect has been a little counterproductive and in Deal or no Deal terms probably went a round too early. I think the ratings would have been much greater last night if they were still in.The peculiarity being that they could not sing any better than many could at a Karaoke machine. The gift that Simon Cowell has is that he presents a love/hate relationship to the public-but crucially the people who dont like him tune in too as they want to see him fall flat on his face. Jedward leaving arguably removed that threat.”

I'm not sure though that Milli Vanilla would have been available to duet with Jedward last night?

CheekyTV

13-12-2009

I saw the ITV News after The Comedy Awards and they said that the X Factor had been watched by 20 million...I though wow those figures came in rather quickly but how wrong could they be..ITN should deal with the facts and not make them up as they go along..lol

I thought the X Fator was good last night...and I hate the show...but 12.4m is still a brilliant audience..

CheekyTV

13-12-2009

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I'm not sure though that Milli Vanilla would have been available to duet with Jedward last night? ”

They were busy doing Strictly..lol...

Agent F

13-12-2009

I have to agree that is a dreadful rating whatever way you look at it. The hype was unavoidable and that's all it could manage?

The two-night finale format doesn't work though. And I know I'm a hypocrite because I did say they should go for it but it turned out to be an utter wet fish last night. No tension whatsoever.

After a great start I do feel like this series has stumbled to an end and the buzz just hasn't been there for a few weeks now. It'll do alright tonight - 15m maybe - but it's not gonna touch BGT's final figures.

GeorgeS

13-12-2009

Dont forget Jedward are back tonight so the final should get a boost in addition to the usual higher Sunday night figures.

BTW BBC2 made the right decision sticking with the snooker till 10.10 last night. Its a really gripping match. Shame the competition is sponsored by a pie firm though.

Score

13-12-2009

I've just been looking at the American Idol ratings for this year, to see how the two night final does over there, and what I found was very interesting:

Final Performances: 23.82m (8.6)
Final Results: 28.84m (10.0)

And here is the average for the previous five weeks:

Performances: 23.54m (8.2)
Results: 23.73m (8.2)

What this shows is that the ratings barely rose for the final performances, but shot up for the final results. Compared with the previous five weeks, the performances show was up by 1.2% (all total viewers), whereas the results were up by 21.5%. Last night's X Factor was up by 1.3% on the average for the previous five performances shows, so it's practically identical to Idol's increase. If the results increase by 21.5% on the average for the previous five weeks like Idol, that will put it at 16.7m. Whilst that looks too high, it's an interesting trend to note, and as X Factor has never ran a two night final before, comparisons with previous years are less significant. All might not be lost for that 18m peak.

Wryip

13-12-2009

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The audience after 8pm appears to disappear somewhat, 25.6m watching between 20:00 and 21:30, a dip of 2m after the first Strictly finished from 26.5m to 24.6m.

If we are to remove the clash period from TXF, we get an average of 13.04m (50.9%). It seems like the first half an hour did dent it significantly.”

Well there has on occassion been approaching 30m watching TV on Sunday nights at any one time this Autumn so 15m overnight for the whole show is likely, but I can't see it getting the 66% peak that BGT final got more like 55-60% meaning at most maybe 18m.

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