Ratings Thread (Part 5)

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Dancc

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“In gross numbers yes, but a lot of the Casualty audience would not be attractive to ITV. Heartbeat & The Royal were still doing good gross figures but it didnt save them.”

Oh, come on. The Bill needs all the viewers it can get at the moment, regardless of demographic. It really can't afford to be fussy.

Where's the evidence anyway that The Bill is resonating well with younger viewers? I've not seen any hard statistics on this, just unsubstantiated rumours.

Agent F

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Oh, come on. The Bill needs all the viewers it can get at the moment, regardless of demographic. It really can't afford to be fussy.

Where's the evidence anyway that The Bill is resonating well with younger viewers? I've not seen any hard statistics on this, just unsubstantiated rumours.”

A snippet from Broadcast -

Quote:
“Talkback Thames executives were keen to keep The Bill’s family appeal, and this move seems to have paid off with an increase in younger viewers. A quarter of the drama’s audience are now aged under 34, compared with the same period last summer when that demographic made up just 17%. People aged over 55 however have been favouring BBC1’s New Tricks, where they make up 65% of the show’s audience, compared with The Bill’s 46.5%, down from 57% over the same period in 2008.”

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/rating...004697.article

That was back in August though. Not sure what the situation has been like more recently.

KennyT

01-11-2009

What was TBs total audience when they were getting 17% under 34s? If it was around 6m, then they aren't getting (m)any more young viewers now (1m) than they were then (1m)!

K

rzt

01-11-2009

The Bill's audience profile is no better than Casualty's.

The Bill is now getting about 0.8-1m viewers aged 16-34, and around 1.5m from the ABC1 demo.

Casualty gets around 0.7m viewers aged 16-34, and over 2m from the ABC1 demo.

Originally Posted by KennyT:
“What was TBs total audience when they were getting 17% under 34s? If it was around 6m, then they aren't getting (m)any more young viewers now (1m) than they were then (1m)!

K”

Yeah, the %s might've gone up but the raw numbers are about the same as before.

Dancc

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by Agent F:
“A snippet from Broadcast -

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/rating...004697.article

That was back in August though. Not sure what the situation has been like more recently.”

Thanks for the article. Kenny makes a good point above regarding the "rise" Broadcast suggest. Perhaps there hasn't been a rise at all? Furthermore, is 25% really that impressive? I'd be willing to wager that a greater percentage of FlashForward viewers are under 34.

Dancc

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by rzt:
“The Bill's audience profile is no better than Casualty's.

The Bill is now getting about 0.8-1m viewers aged 16-34, and around 1.5m from the ABC1 demo.

Casualty gets around 0.7m viewers aged 16-34, and over 2m from the ABC1 demo.”

Thanks. This is what I like, actual statistics. So we can see that the audience profile is not that different at all despite Casualty airing on a Saturday night against The X Factor of all programmes.

rzt

01-11-2009

A couple of more ratings from Friday:

Have I Got News For You (BBC1): 4.7m (20.3%)
Benidorm (ITV1): 6.0m (25.9%)

Benidorm holding up very well.

GeorgeS

01-11-2009

That supports my arguement. The Bill outrates most other ITV dramas in the 16-34 age range. It certainly exceeds what Doc Martin was getting. There is no way a show that is delivering good demos is going to be hastily axed (unless ITV gets out of drama completely).

Brekkie

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“I think it's worth a try. 'Allo 'Allo did well there until it moved away from Saturdays for its final two series. Birds of a Feather did well there in 1991. However, since then, new Saturday night sitcoms have been few and far between, and when they have been in the schedule, they've been no earlier than 8.55pm, and more commonly, no earlier than 9.40pm.

My Family at its best, would probably have done huge ratings business on Saturday nights.”

Yeah, it's getting the slot right. For the Spring though something like this could work:

7.15pm Doctor Who
8.00pm Family Comedy
8.30pm Lottery Show
9.20pm Casualty
10.10pm News

Of course a lot depends on what's on ITV - and obviously with TV Burp Saturday evening comedy is working for them.

ZoeMcCallister

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by rzt:
“A couple of more ratings from Friday:

Have I Got News For You (BBC1): 4.7m (20.3%)
Benidorm (ITV1): 6.0m (25.9%)

Benidorm holding up very well.”

One of the few ITV shows that continues to increase every series. Many people thought the one hour format would ruin the quality and affect ratings, but it's had the opposite effect.

I'd say that ITV are probably quite keen to keep this show and if the main producers want out ITV would try their best to keep the show under different producers. I think ITV could still get 1 or 2 more series out of it yet considering it's managing 6m on a weekly basis.

Also quite interesting to see an advert for Benidorm just before the XF...surely advertising the shoe to 13m people is a good sign for the show? Maybe I'm pulling at strings here, but if next weeks show was to be the last ever then surely ITV wouldn't bother advertising the show??

D.M.N.

01-11-2009

Something interesting on the demographics this year compared to last year:

4 to 15 year olds
Merlin - 510,000 (26%)
* last year: 590,000 (28%)
SCD - 690,000 (33%)
* last year: 880,000 (35%); 770,000 excluding final
X Factor - 2.03m (71%)
* last year: 1.89m (68%)

So Merlin and Strictly slightly down in the age 4 to 15 category, with The X Factor slightly up.

bob.cryer

01-11-2009

Tonight:

The X Factor - 12.2mil
Doc Martin - 6.8 mil

D.M.N.

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by bob.cryer:
“Tonight:

The X Factor - 12.2mil
Doc Martin - 6.8 mil”

Your predictions get sillier each and every week.

Interesting to note that X Factor on Twitter currently has 7 out of 10 trending topics - the highest so far this series. I won't actually be surprised if, because of last night's lower figures that more people will actually be watching tonight compared to normal Sunday's.

iaindb

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by bob.cryer:
“Tonight:

The X Factor - 12.2mil
Doc Martin - 6.8 mil”

Why do you expect the Doc to drop 1.9m?

Only_You

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by bob.cryer:
“Tonight:

The X Factor - 12.2mil
Doc Martin - 6.8 mil”

!

Anyway, My predictions if anyone cares ....

The X Factor - 13.6m
Doc Martin - 9.1m

bob.cryer

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Your predictions get sillier each and every week.

Interesting to note that X Factor on Twitter currently has 7 out of 10 trending topics - the highest so far this series. I won't actually be surprised if, because of last night's lower figures that more people will actually be watching tonight compared to normal Sunday's.”

!

Sillier! They are quite near the mark!

Agent F

01-11-2009

XF will make a recovery tonight. I think the Sunday shows are becoming the ones to watch actually.

D.M.N.

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by bob.cryer:
“!

Sillier! They are quite near the mark!”

Yeah, um, about 1 million out for The X Factor and 2 million out Doc Martin.

BeethovensPiano

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by rzt:
“A couple of more ratings from Friday:

Have I Got News For You (BBC1): 4.7m (20.3%)
Benidorm (ITV1): 6.0m (25.9%)

Benidorm holding up very well.”

Didn't Have I Got News For yYou used to do much better than that? Pleased that Benidorm is doing so well. I thought HIGNFY might really dent the ratings... seems to be the other way around in fact.

ZoeMcCallister

01-11-2009

If we're all making predictions then...

TV Burp 6.1m
ASFF 7.6m
XF 13.6m
DM 8.4m

Antiques Roadshow 5.0m
Garrow's Law 4.4m

Dancc

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by Agent F:
“XF will make a recovery tonight. I think the Sunday shows are becoming the ones to watch actually.”

Well it's a work night for most so the figures will be higher compared to Saturdays. I wouldn't attribute the ratings gap to anything other than this personally. The back to school/college effect could certainly work in its favour as well.

Dancc

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“If we're all making predictions then...

TV Burp 6.1m
ASFF 7.6m
XF 13.6m
DM 8.4m

Antiques Roadshow 5.0m
Garrow's Law 4.4m”

Maybe it's just me but I'm not feeling Garrow's Law. Everything points to a flop IMO. I can't even find a thread about it on DS- does one exist?

I would shave at least 800k off your prediction. The rest I would roughly agree with.

Score

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Maybe it's just me but I'm not feeling Garrow's Law. Everything points to a flop IMO. I can't even find a thread about it on DS- does one exist?

I would shave at least 800k off your prediction. The rest I would roughly agree with.”

Garrow's Law screams flop. Things like this never do well. Here are my predictions:

TV Burp: 5.7m
ASFF: 7.2m
TXF: 13.1m
Doc Martin: 9m

Countryfile: 5.7m
AR: 5.4m
Garrow's Law: 3.5m

iaindb

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by BeethovensPiano:
“Didn't Have I Got News For yYou used to do much better than that? Pleased that Benidorm is doing so well. I thought HIGNFY might really dent the ratings... seems to be the other way around in fact.”

Yes, last week and the week before.

I'm thinking the line up of guests and host didn't do the programme any favours this week.

bob.cryer

01-11-2009

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Yeah, um, about 1 million out for The X Factor and 2 million out Doc Martin.”

If I am wrong, I will eat my hat!

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