Originally Posted by bob.cryer:
“If I am wrong, I will eat my hat!”
“If I am wrong, I will eat my hat!”
I hope you've got a nice tasting hat then or it won't be a pleasant experience tomorrow.
Ratings Thread (Part 5)
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Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Maybe it's just me but I'm not feeling Garrow's Law. Everything points to a flop IMO. I can't even find a thread about it on DS- does one exist?
I would shave at least 800k off your prediction. The rest I would roughly agree with.”
“Maybe it's just me but I'm not feeling Garrow's Law. Everything points to a flop IMO. I can't even find a thread about it on DS- does one exist?
I would shave at least 800k off your prediction. The rest I would roughly agree with.”
I dunno really about Garrow's Law...I played it safe in the RPG (4.4m) because I thought/still think it could go either way.
However whatever happens I think in a couple of weeks when IAC and TG return it will most certainly get slaughtered and perhaps fall under 3m?
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Well it's a work night for most so the figures will be higher compared to Saturdays. I wouldn't attribute the ratings gap to anything other than this personally. The back to school/college effect could certainly work in its favour as well.”
“Well it's a work night for most so the figures will be higher compared to Saturdays. I wouldn't attribute the ratings gap to anything other than this personally. The back to school/college effect could certainly work in its favour as well.”
Well that goes without saying. More people in, more people watching.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Maybe it's just me but I'm not feeling Garrow's Law. Everything points to a flop IMO. I can't even find a thread about it on DS- does one exist?
I would shave at least 800k off your prediction. The rest I would roughly agree with.”
“Maybe it's just me but I'm not feeling Garrow's Law. Everything points to a flop IMO. I can't even find a thread about it on DS- does one exist?
I would shave at least 800k off your prediction. The rest I would roughly agree with.”
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1153895
This looks to me more like a BBC2 programme, but sometimes BBC1 puts quality of programme ahead of quantity of viewers, and that's exactly what they should be doing. It's one of the justifications for the licence fee.
BREAKING NEWS
Australia: The launch of 7Two improves Seven's overall share of viewing by 14% week-on-week.
Breakdown for the main 3 commercial networks along with their digital offspring:
Seven/7TWO - 31.8%
Nine/GO! - 26.4%
Ten/ONE - 21.2%
That is quite a big gap on a night that is traditionally one of Nine's best performing.
Australia: The launch of 7Two improves Seven's overall share of viewing by 14% week-on-week.
Breakdown for the main 3 commercial networks along with their digital offspring:
Seven/7TWO - 31.8%
Nine/GO! - 26.4%
Ten/ONE - 21.2%
That is quite a big gap on a night that is traditionally one of Nine's best performing.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1153895
This looks to me more like a BBC2 programme, but sometimes BBC1 puts quality of programme ahead of quantity of viewers, and that's exactly what they should be doing. It's one of the justifications for the licence fee.”
“http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1153895
This looks to me more like a BBC2 programme, but sometimes BBC1 puts quality of programme ahead of quantity of viewers, and that's exactly what they should be doing. It's one of the justifications for the licence fee.”
You may be right-I only saw the first few seconds but the caption about real Old Bailey archive cases sounded very Casualty 1907/8/9 to me. I think there are 4 episodes , so thrusting the first two against the end episodes of Doc Martin isnt bright-unless they arent expecting all that much.ITV1's Sunday nights are about as dominant as last Autumns were anaemic, and its hard to see much change in Autumns to come unless Strictly results are moved back.
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Cheryl Cole to get own TV show ...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-21788714/”
“Cheryl Cole to get own TV show ...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-21788714/”
From what i've seen of the tabloid press recently, you'd think she already had...
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Last night ITV were particularly hit by Halloween (not such a big issue for the older skewing BBC1 schedule)”
“Last night ITV were particularly hit by Halloween (not such a big issue for the older skewing BBC1 schedule)”
and 
Yes, ITV1 was sure hit by people not watching ITV1 last night.
Do grandparents not go to Halloween parties too?
It's an interesting demographic that the TXF core viewership seemingly has - they stay in religiously for half the Saturday nights in the year. Apart from Halloween, when they all go out...
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“yeah Casualty now gets "sacrificied" against TXF and BGT for about half its run. Casualty is dying a slow death then and has now been surpassed by Holby in the ratings.”
“yeah Casualty now gets "sacrificied" against TXF and BGT for about half its run. Casualty is dying a slow death then and has now been surpassed by Holby in the ratings.”
Yet if Casualty was attracting a solid 7m every week, TXF or not, you'd be moaning that the Beeb were denting TXF and depriving ITV1 of its 'right to print money by not having popular programmes on BBC1 at the same time as its biggest shows'.
Not sure whether you're just gloating or genuinely aggrieved that the BBC is letting one of its most established shows suffer from being up against TXF.
Least the Beeb could do is give it a chance by running it straight after SCD and the lotto later.
I wouldn't be surprised if Casualty became a one hour show next year and got a 9pm weekday slot (Fridays would be a good bet; it did air 9.30-10.20 for a couple of seasons around 1990-91 IIRC) - as GeorgeS rightly (for once) says, it's now screwed by TXF, DOI (presumably) and BGT for almost all of its run.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Waterloo Road is a BBC Scotland so I'm sure they love putting it on against the 2nd biggest programme on the telly. (BGT the first? Yes? Which is bigger, TXF or BGT? There's only one way to find out - FFIIIIGGGHHHTTTT!!!)”
“Waterloo Road is a BBC Scotland so I'm sure they love putting it on against the 2nd biggest programme on the telly.
(BGT the first? Yes? Which is bigger, TXF or BGT? There's only one way to find out - FFIIIIGGGHHHTTTT!!!)”
Is there any difference in reality?
Originally Posted by BeethovensPiano:
“Didn't Have I Got News For yYou used to do much better than that? Pleased that Benidorm is doing so well. I thought HIGNFY might really dent the ratings... seems to be the other way around in fact.”
“Didn't Have I Got News For yYou used to do much better than that? Pleased that Benidorm is doing so well. I thought HIGNFY might really dent the ratings... seems to be the other way around in fact.”
I think HIGNFY is now being dented by the extended Saturday night edition. I know I am not alone in not watching the Friday show because as a fan of the show, I'd rather wait for the longer version. The fact the Saturday show consistently gets such high ratings for BBC2 (considering the opposition) just shows what damage the Beeb are doing (as ever...) to one of their flagship shows.
Maybe they should just stick to the Friday BBC1 show, the BBC2 repeat, and make a new end of year/Christmas show out of the best bits they cut out.
I am really surprised at how well Benidorm has held up without the jokes. Perhaps people never tuned in to it in the first place for the comedy - maybe ITV's core audience thinks it's a "Brits abroad" documentary?
What Australia Watched: Sunday 1st November
Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.33m
18:30 Sunday Night 1.18m
19:30 Border Security 1.42m
20:00 The Force 1.52m
20:30 Bones 1.37m
Nine
18:00 Nine News Sunday 1.04m
18:30 20 to 1: Hit the Road 0.91m
19:30 60 Minutes 0.96m
Ten
17:00 Ten News with Sports Tonight 0.62m
18:30 Electric Dreams 0.59m
19:30 Australian Idol 0.94m
21:30 Rove 0.75m
ABC
20:30 Wuthering Heights 0.70m
SBS
19:30 Who Do You Think You Are? 0.38m
7Two
12:00 Welcome to 7TWO 0.08m
12:10 Michael Jackson: His Last Televised Concert 0.09m
GO!
18:30 Wipeout 0.21m
19:30 The Big Bang Theory 0.14m
One
23:00 Formula One: Abu Dhabi Pre-Race Show 0.11m
Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.33m
18:30 Sunday Night 1.18m
19:30 Border Security 1.42m
20:00 The Force 1.52m
20:30 Bones 1.37m
Nine
18:00 Nine News Sunday 1.04m
18:30 20 to 1: Hit the Road 0.91m
19:30 60 Minutes 0.96m
Ten
17:00 Ten News with Sports Tonight 0.62m
18:30 Electric Dreams 0.59m
19:30 Australian Idol 0.94m
21:30 Rove 0.75m
ABC
20:30 Wuthering Heights 0.70m
SBS
19:30 Who Do You Think You Are? 0.38m
7Two
12:00 Welcome to 7TWO 0.08m
12:10 Michael Jackson: His Last Televised Concert 0.09m
GO!
18:30 Wipeout 0.21m
19:30 The Big Bang Theory 0.14m
One
23:00 Formula One: Abu Dhabi Pre-Race Show 0.11m
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Your predictions get sillier each and every week.”
“Your predictions get sillier each and every week.
”
The poster is merely just offering us their opinion on what he/she believes the figures will be. Is there any need for that kind of response?
I agree with bob.cryer's X Factor prediction, though I'd expect Doc Martin to hit over seven million again.
Ok for The X Factor - I went back to last week, when it got 11.6m and the percentage was at 44%, so a loss of 1.5m equating to 3% - could anyone good at maths tell me whether there were less people watching TV last night?
Strictly Come Dancing held up well, as did the rest of BBC1's schedule.
Garrow's Law will be interesting. It's up against a juggernaut with a lead in so it's going to be tough to have much of an impact TBH.
As for Friday - Benidorm is doing excellently. Have I Got News For You will be boosted by the Saturday repeat I would imagine.
Strictly Come Dancing held up well, as did the rest of BBC1's schedule.
Garrow's Law will be interesting. It's up against a juggernaut with a lead in so it's going to be tough to have much of an impact TBH.
As for Friday - Benidorm is doing excellently. Have I Got News For You will be boosted by the Saturday repeat I would imagine.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Ok for The X Factor - I went back to last week, when it got 11.6m and the percentage was at 44%, so a loss of 1.5m equating to 3% - could anyone good at maths tell me whether there were less people watching TV last night?”
“Ok for The X Factor - I went back to last week, when it got 11.6m and the percentage was at 44%, so a loss of 1.5m equating to 3% - could anyone good at maths tell me whether there were less people watching TV last night?”
In the slot last week there were around 26.3m watching. This week was around 24.3m.
Originally Posted by C14E:
“In the slot last week there were around 26.3m watching. This week was around 24.3m.”
“In the slot last week there were around 26.3m watching. This week was around 24.3m.”
Thanks. So 2m down, and 1.5m were X Factor viewers. Guess that does explain the loss really.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“It's an interesting demographic that the TXF core viewership seemingly has - they stay in religiously for half the Saturday nights in the year. Apart from Halloween, when they all go out...”
“It's an interesting demographic that the TXF core viewership seemingly has - they stay in religiously for half the Saturday nights in the year. Apart from Halloween, when they all go out...”
I believe its called having a life.........
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I think HIGNFY is now being dented by the extended Saturday night edition.”
“I think HIGNFY is now being dented by the extended Saturday night edition.”
No I think its the fact that its as tame as a pet poodle (and about as funny as well), althought its great to see Ian Hislop slowly coming out as a Tory
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I am really surprised at how well Benidorm has held up without the jokes. Perhaps people never tuned in to it in the first place for the comedy - maybe ITV's core audience thinks it's a "Brits abroad" documentary?”
“I am really surprised at how well Benidorm has held up without the jokes. Perhaps people never tuned in to it in the first place for the comedy - maybe ITV's core audience thinks it's a "Brits abroad" documentary?”
I sometimes wonder whether it might not just be you that doesnt get it as opposed to the 6m who do get it. Maybe, just maybe.......
Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“The poster is merely just offering us their opinion on what he/she believes the figures will be. Is there any need for that kind of response?”
“The poster is merely just offering us their opinion on what he/she believes the figures will be. Is there any need for that kind of response?
”
If you see bob.cryer's previous posts in the Ratings Thread(s) you'll see why I said that.
Sunday's Overnights appear to have been delayed I think - none of the main media sites have updated, nor have ITV Insider on Twitter and Channel 4 Sales updated.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Sunday's Overnights appear to have been delayed I think - none of the main media sites have updated, nor have ITV Insider on Twitter and Channel 4 Sales updated.”
“Sunday's Overnights appear to have been delayed I think - none of the main media sites have updated, nor have ITV Insider on Twitter and Channel 4 Sales updated.”
doing a recheck on TXF ratings???
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“I'm assuming the the 20.30 Corrie is for 20.30-20.55? Anyone have the rating for the slot?”
“I'm assuming the the 20.30 Corrie is for 20.30-20.55? Anyone have the rating for the slot?”
8.6m, 39% share.
Source: MediaGuardian
Sunday 1st November Overnights
BBC One
20:00- Antiques Roadshow: 5.72m (19.7%)
21:00- Garrow’s Law: 4.46m (16.7%)
BBC Two
20:00- Ray Mears’s Northern Wilderness: 2.01m (6.9%),
21:00- Charley Boorman: Sydney to Tokyo by Any Means: 1.63m (6.1%)
ITV1
18:45- Harry Hill's TV Burp: 4.6m (20%)
19:15- All Star Family Fortunes: 6.9m (27.6%)
20:00- The X Factor: 13.87m (47.8%)
* peak: 15.8m (52%) at 20:50
21:00- Doc Martin: 9.33m (35.1%)
Channel 4
20:00- Celebrity Come Dine with Me: 1.52m (5.2%) , +1: 390,000 (1.6%)
21:00- Dreamgirls: 1.01m (5.1%) , +1: 143,000 (1.3%)
Five
19:00- Groundhog Day: 977k (3.7%)
21:00- Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me: 930k (4.1%)
ITV2
21:00- The Xtra Factor: 1.63m (6.5%)
Sky1
21:00- House: 626k (2.5%)
22:00- Fringe: 462k (2.8%)
Primetime Shares
ITV1: 33.4%
BBC One: 20.6%
BBC Two: 7.1%
Channel 4: 4.6% (+1: 0.8%)
Five: 3.8%
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Massive rating for The X Factor, its highest ever. It's also higher than every single Britain's Got Talent overnight rating apart from the final 2 shows of the 2009 series (15.3m and 17.3m).
Doc Martin also getting a series high and cementing its place as the most watched drama episode this year. BBC1's lineup held up quite well against ITV's juggernauts with a decent 20%+ primetime share. I don't think Garrow's Law could've done much better against that type of competition.
BBC One
20:00- Antiques Roadshow: 5.72m (19.7%)
21:00- Garrow’s Law: 4.46m (16.7%)
BBC Two
20:00- Ray Mears’s Northern Wilderness: 2.01m (6.9%),
21:00- Charley Boorman: Sydney to Tokyo by Any Means: 1.63m (6.1%)
ITV1
18:45- Harry Hill's TV Burp: 4.6m (20%)
19:15- All Star Family Fortunes: 6.9m (27.6%)
20:00- The X Factor: 13.87m (47.8%)
* peak: 15.8m (52%) at 20:50
21:00- Doc Martin: 9.33m (35.1%)
Channel 4
20:00- Celebrity Come Dine with Me: 1.52m (5.2%) , +1: 390,000 (1.6%)
21:00- Dreamgirls: 1.01m (5.1%) , +1: 143,000 (1.3%)
Five
19:00- Groundhog Day: 977k (3.7%)
21:00- Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me: 930k (4.1%)
ITV2
21:00- The Xtra Factor: 1.63m (6.5%)
Sky1
21:00- House: 626k (2.5%)
22:00- Fringe: 462k (2.8%)
Primetime Shares
ITV1: 33.4%
BBC One: 20.6%
BBC Two: 7.1%
Channel 4: 4.6% (+1: 0.8%)
Five: 3.8%
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Massive rating for The X Factor, its highest ever. It's also higher than every single Britain's Got Talent overnight rating apart from the final 2 shows of the 2009 series (15.3m and 17.3m).
Doc Martin also getting a series high and cementing its place as the most watched drama episode this year. BBC1's lineup held up quite well against ITV's juggernauts with a decent 20%+ primetime share. I don't think Garrow's Law could've done much better against that type of competition.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“doing a recheck on TXF ratings???”
“doing a recheck on TXF ratings???
”
20.00- The X Factor: 13.87m (47.8%)
*peak must be around 15m.
Blimey. TXF sure knows how to bounce back.
Also interesting to see BBC Two & ITV2 level at 9pm. But the shares are different?
Also interesting to see BBC Two & ITV2 level at 9pm. But the shares are different?
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