Channel 4 cannot afford to renew Deal or No Deal ....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...dget-cuts.html

Big Brother, Deal or No Deal, Paul O'Grady all facing the axe from the channel, while F Word is struggling (and I can't think of one other highly rated Channel 4 show)...the channel's in a mess at the moment!

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I can't see anyone else wanting it now. It's a bit by its best.

They are in a bit of a mess. Primetime looks pretty scant from a ratings banker point of view - and what they have is only going to be stretched more thinly when Big Brother opens up so much space in the summer schedule next year. Theres very few 'big hitters' on C4's side at the moment - and thats not helped when expensive faces like Ramsey struggle to keep up their viewer appeal.

Now, with the always-reliable early evening coming line-up being hit by budget cuts, they're left only really with Simpsons/Hollyoakes propping up the schedule.

I think they're trying to get the price down with both Deal or No Deal and Big Brother. They're now in the position from a ratings viewpoint where they can't really afford to lose Big Brother - even if it loses on average 500, 000 from last series it'll still bag around 1.5m, and at this rate not many shows will do that for the channel over the summer. I still think a publicity blitz, change of presenter, revamp of the spin offs (a bit like The X Factor after it's 'poor' series in 2007) and return of live feed will help the programme to recover more of an audience...but that's for another thread.

Otherwise I think they need to think about the show's they already have in the archives. Shamless, Skins, Hollyoaks Later, True Blood, Ugly Betty and Friends could cover the 9pm slot for a spell with them possibly airing movies or documentary repeats and chat shows at 10pm. At 8pm they could air their new documentaries - Dispatches, How to Look Good Naked, Come Dine With Me, The cookery shows (maybe the censors would be needed for Ramsey!), Location, Location, Location.

I think most of all Channel 4 need some structure to the schedule. The reason their afternoon's are relatively successful is because there is a locked structure there. BBC and ITV1 use the soaps to good affect, but Channel 4 don't have that option. But they need to classify the 8pm and 9pm slots (as I said above 8pm - documentaries, 9pm - drama, 10pm - Chat) and stick to it so viewers know where they are.

Indeed. If things now go as expected:

1) ITV1 has four live games in the last 16 - they will have one Man Utd, one Chelsea, one Arsenal and one featuring no English club (could be Rangers though unlikely).

2) In the quarters and semis they have two live games each round - one Man Utd and one Chelsea / Arsenal IF teams get through.

It's also worth noting that there is an increased chance of tough draws for English clubs in the last 16 as a number of the biggest clubs may come 2nd in their groups.

So at a minimum ITV faces:

1) One game in the last 16 with no English club

2) Four other games featuring Chelsea / Arsenal who tend to get much lower ratings than Man Utd / Liverpool

For the last few years ITV has been very lucky with how the CL has gone. This year will not be so good for them and it could get quite a lot worse if English teams lose in the last 16.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/11/04...-griffin/32610

Let's Dance for Comic Relief got picked up by ABC in America.

Totally passed me by, don't know if anyone realised.

CNN comes in 4th on US election night.

PRIMETIME (8-11 PM/ET)

FOXNEWS: 4,043,000 viewers (1,130,000 in 25-54)

MSNBC: 974,000 viewers(308,000 in 25-54)

HEADLINE NEWS: 842,000 viewers(341,000 in 25-54)

CNN: 826,000 viewers (227,000 in 25-54)

and Liverpool go on a long run in the UEFA Cup (or whatever its called now) and ITV1 show all their games on Thursday nights. Swings & roundabouts really.

Channel 4 Sales :

6.00pm The Simpsons : 2.56m
6.30pm Hollyoaks : 1.57m
8.00pm Hotel Rescue : 2.05m
9.00pm The Family : 2.59m
10.00pm True Blood : 1.35m

Network Stats (is this all day share?)
BBC One : 12.8%
BBC Two : 3.9%
ITV 1 : 16.3%
C4 :
Five : 5.2%

(first time ive posted data i think)

Wednesday 4th November Overnights
BBC One
18:00- BBC News at Six: 4.8m (24.5%)
18:30- Regional News and Weather: 5.7m (27.4%)
19:00- The One Show: 4.6m (21.5%)
19:30- Jimmy's Food Factory: 5.6m (24.9%)
20:00- Waterloo Road: 5.4m (22.6%)
21:00- Spooks 6.0m (24.8%)
* 2007 series premiere: 5.89m (24.9%)
* 2008 series premiere: 5.5m (23.4%)
22:00- BBC News at Ten: 4.9m (25.1%)
22:25- Regional News and Weather: 4.4m (24.9%)
22:35- The National Lottery Draws: 2.9m (18.4%)
22:45- Interview with the Vampire: 0.8m (9.7%)

BBC Two
18:30- Strictly Come Dancing - It Takes Two: 2.6m (12.4%)
19:00- Coast: 1.9m (8.5%)
20:00- Natural World: 2.4m (10.0%)
20:50- Badlands Raging Bulls: 2.3m (9.3%)
21:00- Andrew Marr's The Making of Modern Britain: 2.4m (9.8%)
22:00- Never Mind the Buzzcocks: 1.6m (8.5%)
22:30- Newsnight: 0.9m (7.0%)

ITV1
18:30- ITV Evening News and Weather: 3.6m (17.2%)
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.5m (30.4%)
19:30- UEFA Champions League: Lyon v Liverpool: 5.1m (21.3%)
* peak: 6.4m
22:00- News at Ten and Weather: 2.2m (11.4%)
22:35- UEFA Champions League 1.1m (10.9%)

Channel 4
18:00- The Simpsons: 2.2m (11.2%)
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.4m (6.9%)
19:00- Channel 4 News: 0.7m (3.3%)
19:55- The Political Slot: 0.8m (3.4%)
20:00- Ruth Watson's Hotel Rescue: 1.9m (8.0%)
21:00- The Family: 2.3m (9.4%)
22:00- True Blood: 1.2m (7.6%)

Five
17:30- Neighbours: 1.6m (10.0%)
18:00- Home and Away: 1.1m (5.8%)
18:30- Live From Studio Five: 0.3m (1.5%)
19:30- Highland Emergency: 0.8m (3.5%)
20:00- Britain's Best Brain: 0.7m (3.0%)
21:00- Maid in Manhattan: 1.0m (5.2%)
23:10- Simon Cowell: Where Did It All Go Right?: 0.6m (8.1%)

E4 [inc. +1]
19:30- How I Met Your Mother: 430,000

Film4 [inc. +1]
19:15- Baby's Day Out: 290,000
21:00-Behind Enemy Lines: 410,000

More4 [inc. +1]
21:00- Time Team: 170,000

All Day Shares
BBC One: 21.2%
ITV1: 18.3%
BBC Two: 8.2%
Channel 4 [inc. +1]: 7.9%
Five: 4.7%
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Great night for BBC1, winning all slots between 7:30-10:30. Jimmy's Food Factory is rating very well, and Waterloo Road's up from last week. Excellent start for Spooks, its highest rated first episode of a series since at least 2006.

ITV1 did well with the football, though. 5m+ is solid at this stage and the demographics would obviously be good. News at Ten seems to suffer the most after football.

Good night for BBC1 with Jimmys food Factory, Waterloo Road and Spooks all winning their slots, Football did well on ITV too. Jimmys food factory must be a big surprise hit, considering I never heard o him before.
Decent start for The Family on Ch4. No?

Quite a good night allround

Spooks, now into its 8th year getting 6 million isn't bad. Next weeks may be done as BBC3 have a firt chance this Friday. But decent figures from 6pm-1035.
BBC2 looking quite healthy. The Football giving ITV a good 5 million over nearly 3 hours.
3 programmes over 2 million for Channel 4 in one day, how unexpected. & Neighbours achieving its highest figure of the year on Five.

I really thought Spooks might have struggled because it's never been in a Wednesday slot before, but it's up on last year's opening episode which is fantastic. It really was a brilliant episode last night - drama at its best, so I'm so pleased to see it do well.

The figure might be around 5 million or the low 4 millions next week though because there is the option to catch the first look BBC3 episode on Friday.

Waterloo Road is also putting in a decent performance. Up on last year too, I think?

Really good night overall for BBC One. Spooks returned very strongly despite tough opposition for its male viewers from the football, which is great to see. Waterloo Road is really prospering this autumn and BBC One will be pleased to see they've managed to find an audience in that one soap-free 7.30pm slot of the week. Nigel Slater did pretty well there, and Jimmy's doing superbly. They could do worse than to try it as a slot for the much-shunted pre-watershed comedy... maybe with Big Top?

ITV did nicely with the football - which was boosted by the fact qualification was at risk for Liverpool. BBC Two and C4 had solid nights, but Five always looks a bit fragile on those nights it doesn'thave a US import providing a stable focal point.

I doubt Waterloo Road won its slot as the 5.1m for football will be much lower in the 7.30-7.45 and 9.40-10.00pm minutes but anyway it was probably a close 2nd

My bad, just looked at averages, oops!

5.4 for Waterloo Road... And to think that The Bill used to beat it when it was in opposition... The Bill can only dream of a figure like that now

I expect Spooks might get a huge timeshift. I know it gets a lot of male viewers, and there's probably a few dedicated Liverpool supporters (plus Everton, Man Utd fans and neutrals) who recorded Spooks. So we might see over 7 million timeshift.

As for Waterloo Road, it seems to have settled into an autumn schedule a lot better. It is a very unrealistic series, but the premise is quite exciting, having private and secondary school mix. It must do very well in the younger demographic that ITV are so after.

And I think ITV need to start to become a bit more ambitious and cunning about offering more programmes for younger viewers.

I do think cutting the soaps is the way forward for ITV, in the long term. Because trends show the overload has meant the programme's have lost viewers. I could even go as far as saying Emmerdale and Coronation Street are a dying breed, as many of its viewers are old. I'd cut Corrie to twice (sometimes three times) a week, and Emmerdale to four times a week.

And here is a fantasy schedule for you all, for lets say, April 2011:-

Sunday
7:00pm Emmerdale
7:30pm Coronation Street
8:00pm Midsomer Murders
10:00pm News at Ten

Like Lewis is traditionally aired in March, Midsomer Murders could air in April.

Monday
7:00pm Emmerdale
7:30pm Coronation Street
8:00pm World in Action
8:30pm The Krypton Factor
9:00pm Law & Order: UK
10:00pm News at Ten

I hope ITV could start to give 8:30 to gameshows. STV could show 'Conquer the Castle' and 'Postcode Challenge', whilst ITV could have 'The Krypton Factor' alternating with 'University Challenge' (if they can nab the very well performing programme from the BBC).

Law & Order: UK meanwhile would have ten weeks in the Spring, following on from the winter 'Monday Night Thrillers' season.

Tuesday
7:00pm Emmerdale
7:30pm House Guest
8:00pm Tourist Trail
9:00pm Greatest Cities of the World
10:00pm News at Ten

John Sergeant's series would be a very good format, similar to how Send in the Dogs has proven a moderate success. I think Send in the Dogs would get better viewers in June/July, as there is no football, and it gets a brilliant male demographic (I hear). Greatest Cities of the World with Griff Rhys Jones was one of the best travel series ITV did in terms of quality. This would all be coming after the season of Dancing on Ice.

Wednesday
7:00pm Emmerdale
7:30pm Champions League Live
10:00pm News at Ten

April is a bumper month for sport on ITV.

Thursday
7:00pm Emmerdale
7:30pm Grimefighters
8:00pm The Whole 19 Yards
9:00pm Beyond a Joke
10:00pm News at Ten

The Thursday 9pm slot could be reserved for programmes celebrating history. This could be the Piers Morgan's Life Stories permanent slot at the start of the year, and the show above was of very high quality and showed good journalism too when shown on ITV3. It would be nice to see an edited version appear on ITV.

Friday
7:00pm Famous Five
7:30pm Captain Scarlet
8:00pm You've Been Framed
8:30pm Harry Hill's TV Burp
9:00pm Benidorm
10:00pm News at Ten

The 9pm slot could have Stars in their Eyes and the Paul O'Grady chat show, and lots of other tomfoolery. The Friday 7-8pm slot is interesting, because I think it would be peak viewing for kids and young adults. Repeats of Primeval, premiering a revived Thunderbirds and the above could see the schedule flourish in my opinion. The combination of You've Been Framed all year round and Harry Hill in Spring and Autumn will also really help. I'm thinking The Bill is given a half an hour slot at 8:30pm, if its to return to its old self ever - which would mean a view into the actual workplace, and into their private lives, and little street crimes, with emphasis on the characters (think 1993-2001).

Saturday
6:00pm Takeshi's Castle
6:30pm Magic Numbers
7:30pm Britain's Got Talent
9:00pm Rod Stewart: One Night Only
10:00pm News at Ten

Saturday's are pretty much sorted on ITV, but I do think Takeshi's Castle would be an interesting way to open the nights. It would be experimental, but I think the show is a lot better than Total Wipeout, because it had Craig Charles' brilliant commentary.

Good night for both BBC One and ITV. BBC will be pleased that Waterloo Road increased and Spooks started very well while ITV will be pleased with a sold Champions League rating.

Five has 1st pick every round.

And they will pick Liverpool every time - even if they are a 6.05pm kick-off.

Very good news for ITV - looks like the corner is being turned.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...ue-up-december

I notice ITV have now added competitions to TV Burp and Benidorm - desperation or a good idea?

I think the TV Burp one is OK, but the Benidorm was really badly done. Derren Litten said on Twitter he agreed with those that thought it was disjointed and that it was nothing to do with him, but he said ITV told him it did really well for them.

I didn't think competitions made them much money really, maybe I'm wrong.

Live coverage of the CL match from 7.45pm - 9.45pm, averaged 5.6 million over two hours.