Yea id have rathered the Wednesday slot.
But Emmerdale/Enders clash isn't so bad but not the 'BIG 2'
I can't see a problem with the Sunday slot tbh

Tv Burp,Family fortunes,Corrie,Xfactor
id think ITV would be on to a big winner and it's hardly going to affect the sunday night

The BBC chose to move Strictly in direct competition with The X Factor for no other reason than for Brucie to brag about them beating their rivals in the ratings at the next press launch. That one backfired on them of course.

Corrie's been moved because I'm A Celebrity is 90 minutes long that night. It's as simple as that. It just so happens to be the one night that EastEnders is having an hour special. Oh well. I'm sure you'll get over it.

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I feel ITV are being unfairly criticised, there's no extra episodes, nothing giving IACGMOOH a leg up etc, all they are doing is moving a Corrie episode to 8pm, they were not to know that BBC1 were doing an hour EastEnders on that day.

ITV could have had Corrie in its normal timeslot and I'm a Celebrity running from 9-10:30pm. Yes, it would mean Late News but that's what's happening the following day anyway!

But I think the BBC should have had the EE 1 hour episode lined up for Tuesday 24th in the first place. I thought it would happen after Holby City had two episodes a few weeks ago, which initially suggested that it might take a week off at some point.

Yeah the Tuesday night slot would have been better for them.

I think the news on Friday is a little different really - it's the weekday News at Ten but ITV have regarded Friday as part of the weekend in the past so it's more justifiable in that sense.

It would of been Nice to have a Wednesday slot but just lately any Hour Enders tends to be a Thursday(well that was untill The new soap line up)

I supose it's to late for them to change things:?

Pizzatheaction said the cutoff point is 12pm tomorrow IIRC. So we shall see.

The Enders Hour-Long On 26th Is going to be a Massive Episode

A wedding,A murder so an action packed Hour and i suspect BBC will advertise this.

Maybe they should start it at 7?

That EastEnders episode has been pencilled in since at least early October and was always meant to be 1 hour so it wasn't about the bbc deciding where to put one episode and choosing to add a second episode on a Thursday when the episode all along was designed to be one hour and written specially because of Children In Need.

I work in the media and know a thing or two. A clash was avoidable. And the BBC can't be blamed they after all only have 4 episodes a week of EastEnders. There's 11 episodes a week of Corrie and Emmerdale in total. No wonder the schedule and creativity is stifled and clashes are becoming unavoidable. If ITV are too afraid to cut one episode of a soap for one week only that is pathetic.

But a clash between Enders and Corrie could still have been avoided as there was nothing stopping ITV keeping Emmerdale in that slot and putting the missing Corrie episode on on Wednesday as they have been doing of late.

They can't just cut a one hour episode in two though can they? How would that work? It isn't two episodes together because of CIN it was written as a one hour special and features a big storyline.

Yea The EastEnders episode was allways supose to be an Hour-Long as it's a Big episode.

I can't see why ITV can't drop Corrie and keep the 8pm Emmerdale(Obv they want corrie as a leg up to IAC)
they could catch the Corrie Episode up on a free Wednesday slot

it would sem Out of Place.
I reckon the BBC should do watchdog 730-830 and have Eastenders at 830

It's clashed with Emmerdale on a regular basis. There's no gentlemans agreement between the BBC and ITV in regards to Emmerdale and EastEnders.

I realise it pains some on here to see ITV criticised for something for a change but there's no leg to stand on when trying to pin this one on the BBC. Honestly some on here are starting to sound as tiresome as GeorgeS. :yawn:

They would have still clashed with Emmerdale if the schedule hadn't changed, so the BBC has manufactured the same clash that ITV used to get criticised for. You really shouldn't expect this from the BBC.

I work in the media so am the authority on what's going on and I saw provisional schedules weeks ago that had the hour long EE pencilled in. Trust me ITV would have been aware of this as well. If not on an official level then unofficially.

You could look at it this way
When the episode was written it was written And inteneded to be an Hour-long which was long before ITV moved Corrie and Emmerdale on a thursday so how would the BBC have known?

Where else can they put a one hour episode? That's the problem. Monday and Friday would clash with Coronation Street and Holby is on Tuesdays at 8. There's no gentleman's agreement between the bbc and itv in regards to Emmerdale and EastEnders clashing anyway. A clash for one week only with Emmerdale is the best case scenario. How were they supposed to know ITV would suddenly move Corrie out of it's normal timeslot again.
ITV have broken the gentlemans agreement between Corrie and EastEnders not the BBC by moving Corrie half an hour forward just so we can have another 30 minutes of jungle padding.

I got that wrong. The regional ones are usually confirmed by noon on the day after the network schedules, but the deadline is actually next Tuesday in this case. That might leave a window for adjustments to the network schedules, assuming either side is unhappy, but it might be too much trouble, particularly as it's a hectic time of year for schedulers.

The BBC could have EASILY scheduled the extra episode on Wednesday or the hour special on Tuesday. Holby aired two episodes the other week and some believed this was to accommodate an Easties special on an upcoming Tuesday. Whatever ITV did the BBC would have clashed with a soap anyway. You can't be miffed about Corrie just because of some 'gentlemen's agreement'. It's the same for all or not at all - and the amount of times some people got angry about the Emmerdale/EastEnders clash and now suddenly that would be the preferred option? Do people not watch both Emmerdale and EastEnders then?

And I've criticised ITV many times in the past so that's a moot point. There are those here who are relentless in their praise for the almighty BBC.

I think any one-hour EastEnders on a Tuesday night would be met with a 7-8pm Emmerdale, anyway.

I can understand ITV wanting to spike the EastEnders episode, and they're perfectly entitled to, but it does seem incredibly risky for ITV to start playing around with Coronation St, because it opens the floodgates for more clashes in the future. It's one thing for ITV to play fast and loose with Emmerdale, but doing it with Coronation St has far bigger financial implications.

Wow! What a debate over a couple of soap episodes.

Anyway, I wasn’t too sure where to post this, but there is some ratings related info (kind of), so I thought I’d post it here.

I spend an hour and a half today in the company of Dorothy Byrne, Head of News and Current Affairs at Channel 4. She flew up to Glasgow to speak to the Msc Political Communication class, but some of the people from my Media, Conflict and Change (part of the MA in Politics at Glasgow University) undergraduate class were invited along too.

She gave a really interesting seminar presentation (about 30 minutes), mostly focussed on the future of Channel 4 and the future of British news generally. Her main point was that Channel 4 is at a cross-roads now and is going through the biggest review of its output since the channel went on air to prepare it for the digital switchover…and the departure of Big Brother!

We then had a Q&A session, where I managed to ask her a couple of questions.

My first was regarding the future of Channel 4 news. She told us that Channel 4 news costs £20m a year to make, but only brings in £10m in ad revenue. I asked her, with More4 News and the News at Noon being axed, does she envisage a time when the main 7pm bulletin would be cut down to 30 minutes, with some kind of cheap/more populist filler for the second half hour.

She answered that going to 30 minutes would be the death of Channel 4 News and would never happen under her stewardship. She says that if the channel was ever closed down, Channel 4 News’ last bulletin would still be one hour long. Interestingly as well, she said that the demographic for Channel 4 news was split 50% ABC1 and 50% C2DE.

She also gave some insight into the axing of the other two bulletins that didn’t really come across in the media. She said that More4 News hadn’t really worked, and that with the main bulletin being available on Channel 4 +1, it was pointless to have the two running at once, especially as More4 News uses some content from the main bulletin. She was even more ambivalent towards News At Noon, which she said wasn’t distinctive enough from what other channels were doing around lunchtime, and that although she’s always sad to see a news bulletin disappear, she was willing to let it go.

She’s also responsible for Dispatches and I asked her how she felt about being stuck in the 8pm slot on a Monday, going up not only against Eastenders and Corrie, but also the ‘light’ current affairs that BBC One and ITV1 do during those hours.

I expected her to give the answer that she was happy Channel 4 were providing an alternative in the slot, but she said that she hated it. She said she’s been fighting tooth and nail to get the programme moved from that slot, as she feels it has the potential to reach a larger audience which simply isn’t happening just now. She said the same goes for Unreported World (Friday @ 7:30pm), but the scheduler’s can’t see anywhere else for it in the schedule.

It was a really interesting way to fill the gap between my lecture and tutorial. She talked about a lot of interesting things, but I’ve had to limit myself here.

Enjoy

I disagree - I would lead with G&S (7m viewers) with QI following (4.5-5m). G&S will almost certainly get more advance publicity and promotion.

Either way, both should do well against I'm a Z-leb Get My Tits Out Here/The Bill.


If what you say is correct (and presumably you would say the recent 4.4m 10.25pm figure is also "wrong"), and rzt is now the official source of accurate TV ratings and not BARB, the organisation the broadcasters pay to collate and publish the figures taken as gospel, then does this not call other official published ratings into question?

Can we have a stewards' enquiry in to other suspect ratings?

For example, I find it hard to believe that the results of a talent contest featuring dancing dogs and YouTube freak show acts got 18m viewers on a hot sunny evening in May, or that a padded-out karaoke-reality TV eviction show has recently been getting 10-14m viewers.

These figures cannot be right, surely?




Hm...




Authority?

Please post a link to the BBC press release confirming this.


Of course it was.

ITV1 have clearly moved Corrie to 8pm to try to dent a big episode of EastEnders, knowing that "Tits Out" or Emm Fm wouldn't be strong enough.

And I keep reading about this so-called "gentleman's agreement" not to clash Corrie and EE. I've only ever seen it mentioned in this thread. Is this not an urban myth?

Like I said there's no gentleman's agreement that Emmerdale and EastEnders should not clash. Emmerdale and EastEnders have clashed lots of times over the past 5 years all instigated by ITV.

Throughout 2008 there was a clash nearly every week. A clash with Emmerdale might have been unavoidable but it's better than being up against Corrie which is just as big a show and a show which ITV has an agreement with the BBC that it won't be scheduled against EastEnders.

EE is on its usual timeslot of 7.30. But even being on for one hour it would not normally clash with Corrie on a Thursday. ITV have moved Corrie out of its usual timeslot again and that is why the clash has happened. So I don't know why you're trying to blame the BBC. There's only 4 episodes of EE a week and ITV knew they were going to make up the extra half hour somewhere.

Like I said I saw provisional schedules in early October where the 26th November EE episode was scheduled for 60 minutes. ITV will have been aware of this unofficially if not on some official level.

And let's be honest here this thread is incredibly pro-ITV that's why you've got people trying to spin this round and blame the BBC. And GeorgeS coming out with sly crap about the BBC and ad revenue. Well Corrie will lose out on viewers and ITV will be the ones hurt from that angle. it makes no sense for the two most popular shows of a particular genre to clash. You'd think after the fuss made about the Strictly vs XF clash ITV would have avoided this and just scheduled Corrie on a Wednesday like they have been doing. Same old record from some including you since 2005.

There's absolutely no reason at all why Emmerdale was bumped out of the schedule. Why is Corrie more important than it? Let's face it on a Thursday there isn't much between them in the ratings so Emmerdale would've been just as good a lead in to IAC and therefore should've stayed in its normal timeslot. Corrie should've been the one to be bumped out of the schedule since IAC was taking its slot not Emmerdales. Corrie could have been moved to a Sunday or a Wednesday. It's not like ITV aren't adverse to moving the show it's all over the place lately a bit like Brookside was.