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Old 09-11-2009, 16:56
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A few random observations:

Remembrence cermony programmes continue to be highly viewed compared to what the slots normally get (incl. Songs Of Praise & The Words Of War). I suspect its the Afghanistan effect partly causing this.

The FA Cup 1st round matches did ok (I suspect the Saturday live match got around 1m). Its never going to get spectatular figures but certainly justifies the coverage

The soap omnibus (whats the plural of omnibus?) are flagging. Other than fill up a few hours of weekend daytime, do they really need to be on ITV1/ BBC1?
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Old 09-11-2009, 17:07
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A few random observations:

Remembrence cermony programmes continue to be highly viewed compared to what the slots normally get (incl. Songs Of Praise & The Words Of War). I suspect its the Afghanistan effect partly causing this.

The FA Cup 1st round matches did ok (I suspect the Saturday live match got around 1m). Its never going to get spectatular figures but certainly justifies the coverage

The soap omnibus (whats the plural of omnibus?) are flagging. Other than fill up a few hours of weekend daytime, do they really need to be on ITV1/ BBC1?
Coronation Street Omnibus tends to get 500,000, EastEnders' omnibus gets between 1.2 -1.6m.

If BBC/ITV removed these, I suspect the figures for first showings would rise .
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Old 09-11-2009, 17:09
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Why are people gushing over the X Factor figure? Its an excellent number but its not like its come out of the blue. I watched the show, was gripped by the result and glad of the final result but considering what happened is it that surprising?
Well this thread generally celebrates big ratings.

The fact that The X Factor has been getting Christmas Day style ratings for practically 2 months get's a lot of attention and rightly so.
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Old 09-11-2009, 17:11
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Many thanks to DMN for providing that list. It deserves a rating all by itself.
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Old 09-11-2009, 17:19
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The BBC's Eastenders omnibus has always been the more high profile-I cant see them ditching that-(as a matter of interest it provided a hefty leg up to the 30.10 million that the Den and Angie divorce saga achieved Christmas 1986).

Coronation Street at 400,000 does rather give the impression of wallpaper(or them just bunging a video in and going to the pub) though maybe they dont have anything else practical to put there.
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Old 09-11-2009, 17:24
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Coronation Street at 400,000 does rather give the impression of wallpaper(or them just bunging a video in and going to the pub) though maybe they dont have anything else practical to put there.
Yes I suspect the daytime ITV2 repeats do better business relatively speaking, although they drag the age demographics older which is not ideal for ITV2 from a selling perspective.

I would love to see some older US tv series repeated in daytime - stuff like Magnum or the A Team. I think that would at least get 500k in that slot.
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Old 09-11-2009, 17:26
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The X Factor breakdown makes for interesting reading in my view - viewers appear to be really only tuning in their masses in the last quarter of the hour.
Really ? Up to 20:45 the show was still averaging 14m - is that not still masses ?

Programmes such as this pile on extra viewers for the climax (unless you are SCD), but there's a massive audience that watch the whole thing.
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Old 09-11-2009, 17:36
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Massive ratings should rightly be celebrated in this thread

It's a shame for ITV that their highest ratings for BGT & TXF have come at the same time as the lowest spend on advertising due to the recession.
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Old 09-11-2009, 17:54
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Well, I think it's absolutely RIDICULOUS. 14.4m tuning in for that garbage?? its a DISGRACE. what is wrong with people?
So what if people want a bit of light entertainment on saturday and sunday evening. It is not a disgrace, please do not insult people just because they like different things to you
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Old 09-11-2009, 17:56
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Hope no one minds me posting these in one single post, hopefully its to people's benefit instead of scrolling round numerous websites etc...



I don't mind in the slightest. In fact, I'd like to thank you for your effort.
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Old 09-11-2009, 18:00
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For me, X Factor is just a bit of fun and entertaining

John and Edward are both that and as long as they finish no higher than 3rd then it is ok. Some people take the show too seriously, you only have to see some of the threads in the X Factor forum!
At the end of the vast majority of viewers will never buy the winners materials, so it is about the TV show, not the afterlife. I was a fan of Leona during her series - but can't stand any of the material she's released since - for a single called "Happy", she was damn right miserable this weekend.


ITV really should do that for Dancing on Ice. Their Saturdays for early next year don't look great at the moment with shows like Popstars to Opera Stars. Having Dancing on Ice performances on Saturday would really bring stability to ITV's schedule and the results would do well on Sunday as well. Even if the results are pre-recorded, the ratings won't be affected (like SCD the in 2007 and 2008).

For DOI's latest series, some of the results shows were starting at 21:30 and getting under 7m. At 8pm, I'm certain they'd improve. Wild at Heart at 9pm would still get around 7m, maybe as high as 8m.

And then after Dancing on Ice, why not have BGT auditions over 5 weeks on Saturdays and Sundays. 9 audition episodes altogether (one Saturday off for the Champions League Final) which is two more auditions shows than the 2009 series so not too much extra.
DoI should definately get the weekend treatment. I don't think extra audition shows would serve BGT well, but they could flesh out the callbacks into a weekend of shows with a second performance and then the final 40 revealed over two shows, before the week of live shows.
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Old 09-11-2009, 18:12
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The reason I came on here though was to ask the US Ratings person what was the demo for 20/20 last night?

It got 8.1m viewers, but would have thought with Rihanna on it would skew very young?
As Jonwo said, Tvbythenumbers is great, though this probably deserves a mention anyway.

Last week it had 6.9m and a 1.6 demo rating (adults 18-49). It improved this week to 8.2m and 2.7.

1 ratings point = 1.32m viewers. So this week, 43% of the audience were aged 18-49 compared to 31% last week. It had its best ratings in the 18-49 demo of this season. With younger viewers (18-34) it had a 2.3 rating, the best since January 2006.
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Old 09-11-2009, 18:13
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CBS:
NFL Overrun into primetime has skewed figures but it seems to be the same as usual, Amazing Race doing well and Cold Case and Three Rivers bombing.

ABC:
8pm – Extreme Makeover: Home Edition – 10.4m (3.0)
9pm – Desperate Housewives – 13.3m (4.3)
10pm – Brothers and Sisters – 9.1m (2.9)

ABC slumped against the football, Housewives and B&S both at season lows and down double digit percentages from last week.

FOX:
8pm – Family Guy – 7.4m (3.7)
8.30pm – Family Guy Presents... – 6.6m (3.4)
9pm – Family Guy – 7.7m (4.0)
9.30pm – Cleveland Show – 6.3m (3.2)

NBC:
8.30pm – Sunday Night Football – 19.8m (7.6)

Philadelphia Eagles vs Dallas Cowboys which is, AFAIK, a pretty big game with some big name players.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/11/09...hit-lows/32970
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Old 09-11-2009, 18:22
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I don't mind in the slightest. In fact, I'd like to thank you for your effort.
+1 to that!
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Old 09-11-2009, 18:24
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Its great that Life is repeated. The Sunday figures must mean the overall total approaches 9 million. Which is well deserved as its simply beautiful and its good that so many watch such a show in the midst of all this reality frenzy.
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Old 09-11-2009, 18:34
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The EastEnders omnibus is as consistent as ever. For more years than I care to remember it has been between 1.5-2m now occasionally rising if it's been a particularly dramatic week in the show. I have no idea why ITV1 bother to show an omnibus of Corrie when firstly they don't repeat Emmerdale and secondly Corrie is repeated on ITV2 several times both in singular episodic form for each episode and then omnibus form.

Countryfile did well for BBC1. 6m might be a pittance compared to the 14m tuned into XF on the other side but in any other situation 6m would be considered decent by anyone's standards and if the shoe was on the other foot how many ITV1 shows would put 6m in against 14m on BBC1.

I think BBC1 will be a bit disappointed with Garrow's Law but it was never going to stand much of a chance up against DM which has been performing amazingly. DM is even more popular than New Tricks is. It's a shame it probably won't be on next year. Maybe GL will be boosted next week from the lack of DM.


Edit - Ignore me I'm having a blonde moment. Countryfile wasn't on against X Factor. My point still stands though as AR was on against XF and achieved near enough 6m.
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Old 09-11-2009, 18:35
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Maybe GL will be boosted next week from the lack of DM.
I'm not sure what is worse:

a) Doc Martin
b) I'm A Celebrity and Top Gear

If you ask me, Garrow's Law has a big chance of sinking under 3 million.
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Old 09-11-2009, 18:36
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Simon choosing ratings over talent. He obviously knew that Lucie had come bottom in the phone vote, the producer Richard Holloway probably told him just before the judge's vote.
I hope the producers are not tipping him off before he makes his decision. It would be deception of sorts.

Imagine if a Prime Minister could look at General Election results before deciding whether or not to accept them.
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Old 09-11-2009, 18:42
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I'm not sure what is worse:

a) Doc Martin
b) I'm A Celebrity and Top Gear

If you ask me, Garrow's Law has a big chance of sinking under 3 million.
Id think they are different audiences, Where as DM and GL were quite similar in demographic. Id expect GL to be around 4 million next week possibly back above that number.
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Old 09-11-2009, 18:44
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I'm not sure what is worse:

a) Doc Martin
b) I'm A Celebrity and Top Gear

If you ask me, Garrow's Law has a big chance of sinking under 3 million.
All things considered Garrows Law hasnt been given a chance-and yet has done respectably.
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Old 09-11-2009, 18:47
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Massive ratings should rightly be celebrated in this thread

It's a shame for ITV that their highest ratings for BGT & TXF have come at the same time as the lowest spend on advertising due to the recession.
But the massive hits are what's keeping ITV going, they need as many as possible in times like these.
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Old 09-11-2009, 19:04
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What a difference a year makes

BBC One

Sunday 9th November 2008
19:15 Antiques Roadshow: 8.6m (34%)
20:15 Strictly Come Dancing Results: 8.8m (30%)
21:00 Stephen Fry in America: 6.6m (26%)

Sunday 8th November 2009
19:00 - Countryfile: 6.3m (25.6%)
20:00 - Antiques Roadshow: 5.9m (20.3%)
21:00 - Garrow's Law: 3.9m (14.1%)

ITV1

Sunday 9th November 2008
19:00 Britannia High : 2.5m (10%)
20:00 Heartbeat : 5.3m (18.5%)
21:00 Sharpe's Peril : 4.6m (19%)

Sunday 8th November 2009
18:45 - Harry Hill's TV Burp: 4.8m (20.8%)
19:15 - All Star Family Fortunes: 7m (28%)
20:00 - The X Factor Results : 14.4m (49.4%)
21:00 - Doc Martin: 9.5m (34%)
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Old 09-11-2009, 19:33
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What a difference a year makes

BBC One

Sunday 9th November 2008
19:15 Antiques Roadshow: 8.6m (34%)
20:15 Strictly Come Dancing Results: 8.8m (30%)
21:00 Stephen Fry in America: 6.6m (26%)

Sunday 8th November 2009
19:00 - Countryfile: 6.3m (25.6%)
20:00 - Antiques Roadshow: 5.9m (20.3%)
21:00 - Garrow's Law: 3.9m (14.1%)

ITV1

Sunday 9th November 2008
19:00 Britannia High : 2.5m (10%)
20:00 Heartbeat : 5.3m (18.5%)
21:00 Sharpe's Peril : 4.6m (19%)

Sunday 8th November 2009
18:45 - Harry Hill's TV Burp: 4.8m (20.8%)
19:15 - All Star Family Fortunes: 7m (28%)
20:00 - The X Factor Results : 14.4m (49.4%)
21:00 - Doc Martin: 9.5m (34%)
I think it shows that whatever ITV throw at BBC on a sunday night it will never crumble. Arguably one of their most consistent entertainment shows, their top reality show and top Drama and BBC One can still maintain a solid 20% share.
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Old 09-11-2009, 19:35
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I think it shows that whatever ITV throw at BBC on a sunday night it will never crumble. Arguably one of their most consistent entertainment shows, their top reality show and top Drama and BBC One can still maintain a solid 20% share.
On a Sunday night they're both doing totally different things from 7pm to 9pm at least. It's noticeable that where BBC1 performs poorly is at 9pm where there is probably most audience overlap.

I doubt there is much channel hopping between X Factor and Antiques Roadshow!
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Old 09-11-2009, 19:48
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On a Sunday night they're both doing totally different things from 7pm to 9pm at least. It's noticeable that where BBC1 performs poorly is at 9pm where there is probably most audience overlap.

I doubt there is much channel hopping between X Factor and Antiques Roadshow!
Sometimes BBC1 put on dramas where quality of production counts more than quantity of viewers. As I may have said before, Garrow's Law is probably more of a BBC2 drama and it's actually doing better than I thought it would. Next week Top Gear arrives to fight the BBC's corner at 9pm.

X Factor and Antiques Roadshow together took just short of 70% of the TV audience between 8 and 9pm.
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