I think SYTYCD will be a solid hit rather a breakout and given that the format is new to the UK, I don't expect it to break out, neither X Factor and BGT started big but they grew. I wonder if the seven episode thing is Nigel's decisions than the BBC's.

Kinda of weird that the BBC commissioned SYTYCD and ITV1 commissioned Find My Family rather than vice verca.

Thats an interesting development if it has been successful abroad. Strong factual entertainment formats has been a big weakness of ITV's over the past few years and an area in which they're a long way behind the BBC. If you get them right, they can bring in big numbers for substantially less money - so its worth pursuing.


I'll be stunned if they don't drag it out to at least 75 minutes. I hope they do keep it at 60 - thats more than enough time, and would be better for the average rating - but I can't believe they would pass up this license to print money. Perhaps they're just confident that the Susan Boyle thing will sustain a good majority of the audience afterwards. Though I think her popularity has sunk an awful long way since May...


It definately helps to have the right people involved. BBC in-house has been responsible for a couple of stinking shiny floor shows over the past couple of years.

I agree with your prediction for SYTYCD though. US ratings do not suggest it will be anything more than a minor hit in overall numbers. It won't be anywhere close to SCD / DOI levels - a sort of Any Dream Will Do / Lets Dance sized hit is about the most one could reasonably expect.

He doesn't present Friday's edition of Sunrise normally. Mark Longhurst presents Fri-Sun and Eamonn does Mon-Thu.

He's done both of them in one day many times before though.

Agreed, I was expecting two hours for both.

Although the shorter the results show the better the average. Nevertheless I did think they'd want to make more of an event out of the final.

If they do an hour it will have hardly any padding. The final results show has far more going on than the usual results show. They'll have a result at the start to cut it down to 2 finalists and then they'll perform again and then there's the final result.

Usually they only get 1 guest performance into the results show. It's one of the reasons why they end up with one really good guest for the duets and 2 not so good guests. I think they could have made more of a show of it and easily done 90 minutes. Especially if they aim big (like the suggested Robbie/TT reunion).

I agree about the SuBo show. I'm not sure how an entire hour of her will be received. Could either be huge or a big disappointment.

Some of the comments on that article don't bode well for ITV1:





It actually sounds like the kind of thing I'd love but I can't see it doing well with a mainstream audience who are more used to Marple than Twin Peaks. Ah well.

Sounds like something that would be more suited to E4 or perhaps Five.

I was thinking along the lines of Channel 4 or Five as well. Or even BBC Two. It'll be a niche show not a mainstream hit.

Some US ratings for the week so far.

Top 5 shows by 18-49 rating.

Monday:
1. The Big Bang Theory (CBS) – 5.1 – 13.49m
1. House (FOX) – 5.1 – 12.95m
3. Two and a Half Men (CBS) – 4.8 – 14.07m
4. Dancing With The Stars (ABC) – 3.9 – 18.74m
5. CSI: Miami (CBS) – 3.8 – 13.49m

The Big Bang Theory ties as the #1 rated show of the night with House (I think it’s equal with TBBT’s previous series high) as CBS 9pm comedy hour improves on last week. The differences between TBBT and TAAHM in viewers and the demo seem to be very similar every week. DWTS gets a boost as it hits the semi-final stages.

Tuesday:
1. NCIS (CBS) – 4.1 – 20.34m
2. The Biggest Loser (NBC) – 3.7 – 9.56m
3. NCIS:LA (CBS) – 3.4 – 18.47m
4. Dancing With The Stars (ABC) – 3.2 – 16.02m
5. V (ABC) – 3.1 – 9.32m

V has been a big improvement for ABC at 8pm which had been struggling but it is dropping viewers at an alarming rate. NCIS:LA is doing OK, though you wonder how it would cope without an NCIS lead-in. More concerning is the fact that it’s not skewing younger than NCIS as it was intended to (indeed this week its audience profile was older than NCIS). Perhaps it was the lack of Susan Boyle this week, perhaps the weaker lead-in but DWTS dipped 9% from last week. NCIS, NCIS:LA and The Good Wife (2.6) all slipped to season lows.

Wednesday:
1. Criminal Minds (CBS) – 3.7 – 13.47m
1. Modern Family (ABC) – 3.7 – 9.16m
3. CSI: NY (CBS) – 3.2 – 13.68m
3. Cougar Town (ABC) – 3.2 – 7.90m
3. Glee (FOX) – 3.2 – 7.29m

Glee down a tenth of a point, Criminal Minds jumps a bit from last weeks 3.3 when it faced the Country Music Awards. Glee was the most watched show of the night with teens and adults 18-34. ABC comedies recover from series lows set on their last outing (4th November). ABC also made some changes to the line-up and saw a Modern Family repeat perform better than Hank and a Janet Jackson special up 25% on Eastwick.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/11/19...nd-teens/34041

Waterloo Road was down a lot compared to last week wasn't it? Maybe the lack of an 8pm junction on ITV1 dented the ratings here

How is IAC holding up compared with the same episode last year?
The 8.30-9.00 rating compared with the 9.00-10.00 rating would be interesting

ITV4 last night
Grand Slam of Darts averaged 344,000 (1.7%); 2.3% of male viewers; peaked at 502,000

There was no IAC on the equivalent Wednesday last year due to a Germany-England football match. ITV compensated with a 2 hour episode on the Thursday which averaged 8.05m in the overnights.

I would expect IAC to continue its daily dip tonight and tomorrow because of Children In Need, before picking up at the weekend. (Really brave prediction from me there.)

"I was hungry, so I was."

Not easy to find. It's hard enough to find a half-hour sitcom hit. The hour-long ones tend to come along only if you double the length of an already successful half-hour show.

The pantomimes will be on ITV2. Here's ITV's Christmas lineup: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...008369.article


Difficult to say what they'll have on Christmas Day apart from the soaps. Doesn't look like Dancing on Ice Xmas Special is returning.

Yeah, ITV2 normally show a selection of panto's at around teatime during the festive period. Mostly repeats that they wheel out every year.

Sleep With Me has been missed off that list but it is confirmed as airing this Christmas in the other article. It's not a bad line up, and the drama line up is pretty good. The entertainment bag is much more mixed, with some good stuff such as Ant and Dec, TV Burp, Night of Heroes and Piers Morgan's show, but some of the shows sound terrible, like The Nolans and Ad of The Decade. They'll need to schedule the good stuff well (avoid Christmas Day for the top stuff really) in order to have a successful Christmas though, as last year's wasn't great.

Ant and Dec’s Christmas Special - should get decent ratings, but won't set the ratings world on fire. 7m

Night of Heroes - 4 or 5m depending where they schedule it, but can't see it having much appeal outside the Sun reader audience.

Ad of the Decade - 4 or 5m on Boxing night or NYE/NYD.

Piers Morgan’s Review of the Year - 4m - not the ratings puller ITV think he is.

TV Burp Review of the Year - Good for 7m unless ITV throw it away on Christmas night.

The All Star Impression Show - missed the boat with that one. 3.5 or 4m

All Star Mr & Mrs - will probably rate as well as it usually does unless it gets Christmas night.

All Star Family Fortunes - see above.

Take That: The Circus Live - don't hold out much hope for this. NYE at 11.00pm? 3m.

The Nolans – In the Mood for Dancing - 4 or 5m

An Englishman in New York
and
The Fattest Man in Britain - 4m each unless one gets an X Factor final lead-in. Then they could be looking at 6m.

Marple - 5 or 6m.

The problem with Channel 4 is that they have their big hitters back (The F Word, Secret Millionaire, The Family) and none of them seem to be working.


Where could they go? Possibly a look at Britain during World War II?

Also, do BBC One have an episodes of The Impressions Show available for over the Christmas period? It would be great if they could show it on Christmas Day to get about eight million(ish) watching it.

Looking at them programmes, I'd put Marple on Christmas Day. It never really gets huge ratings in a normal slot, so putting it on Christmas Day, I still think it will get a good 4.0m-5.0m like it usually does.

If you ask me, Channel 4 should bring out their big hitters in Summer when BBC One and ITV1 tend to have repeats.

In theory yes but most of the summer ad money will get spent during the world cup. They really need hits in the pre-christmas (Nov & early December) period when advertisers want to spend most.

For anyone wondering, the repeat showing of Doctor Who last night had 470,000 viewers.

Taking his total so far (including HD) to 9.91m



If TISWCAS now runs weekly, the last episode would be on Boxing Day, so yes, one available for the Christmas period.

What a shame that tonight's gripping Coronation Street along with tommorow's aftermath episodes are going to underperform

They should be getting 10-11m but will probably get some of the lowest ratings for Corrie of the year