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Ratings Thread (Part 5)
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Steve Williams
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“If TISWCAS now runs weekly, the last episode would be on Boxing Day, so yes, one available for the Christmas period.”

Yes, although I doubt it will, I'm guessing the last one will probably get another slot somewhere over Christmas week - much like how, two years, Omid Djalili's final episode would have appeared on the Saturday before Christmas but was instead held back until Friday 28th when they showed it at 10.20. It'll probably be like that.
Agent F
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“What a shame that tonight's gripping Coronation Street along with tommorow's aftermath episodes are going to underperform

They should be getting 10-11m but will probably get some of the lowest ratings for Corrie of the year”

That's ITV's fault, nobody else's!

I bet this was all intentional. Just like when they scheduled Becky and Steve's wedding against Comic Relief and then spent three weeks promoting the hell out of it.
Brekkie
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by craig-maclellan:
“I'm intrigued at the idea of running Let's Dance... stripped over a week, but is it a strong enough brand for that. Also, Eastenders does get in the way slightly. I suppose they could have went.

Monday - Wednesday
8:00pm Let's Dance
9:30pm Eastenders

Thursday
8:00pm Eastenders
9:00pm The Apprentice Does Sport Relief”

Well as Let's Dance only ran for an hour each week (IIRC) it could easily air Monday 9pm and Tue-Thu 8pm. I don't think the BBC would care much about going against the soaps on the Thursday. If they do it could air at 9pm and The Apprentice air on Wednesday at 9pm instead.

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Wednesday 18th November Overnights
BBC One
18:55- Queen's Speech Broadcast: 3.9m (19.3%)


ITV1
18:55- Queen's Speech Broadcast by the Labour Party: 4.3m (21.0%)”

Not very often BBC1 and ITV1 air the same thing and ITV1 come out out on top!

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“PETER FINCHAM INTERVIEW in Broadcast

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...008313.article

We havent seen much "big entertainment" on Friday nights yet from ITV1”

Paul O'Grady will probably take the 9pm slot, but if they want to be serious about making Friday part of the weekend schedule they need to at the very least axe the 8.30pm edition of Corrie so the weekend can start at 8pm. Ideally they'd axe the 7pm hour of soaps too.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The only thing that could change is the length of The X Factor, whether it maybe 90 minutes from 19:30 to 21:00 or even 20:00 to 21:30.”

I'd be amazed if The X Factor isn't two hours each night, and considering the figure of £150,000 per ad spot (20 seconds) and £20m in revenue over the final weekend has been mooted, the show has to run for a total of four hours to achieve that.

As I've posted before, it can easily be stretched out with actually rather little padding. Three songs from the three finalists, plus the elimination of third place, would be Saturday sorted, with Sunday having a couple of songs from the final two, a couple of guests and some group performances from the finalists and the tone-deaf, plus a recap of Saturday night and reprise of the winners song at the end, and the show would fly by. And really anything less than a two-hour finale would be a massive anti-climax IMO.

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Channel 4 have also taken a deliberate decision to drop a lot of higher rating lifestyle & reality programming in order to go up market as they try to secure government funding as an alternative PSB to the BBC”

And what a stupid plan that was. Most of the shows they've axed though in primetime have been the right decision (though years too late), and there are others which need to follow, but C4's schedules, especially after 9pm, is just all over the place at the moment. It needs to get back to the proven structure of lifestyle at 8pm, popular documentary at 9pm and drama at 10pm.

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“I think SYTYCD will be a solid hit rather a breakout and given that the format is new to the UK, I don't expect it to break out, neither X Factor and BGT started big but they grew. I wonder if the seven episode thing is Nigel's decisions than the BBC's.”

I imagine a lot is down to clashes with the US version, which as it goes to air in May will probably have auditions around March at the latest. It is so not a BBC show though and the BBC's association with the more pretentious dance shows which have gone before it will make it difficult for SYTYCD to attract a new audience.
Wryip
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by iaindb:
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If TISWCAS now runs weekly, the last episode would be on Boxing Day, so yes, one available for the Christmas period.”

Do you mean TISWAS I didn't realise that had returned.
gottago
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“That's ITV's fault, nobody else's!

I bet this was all intentional. Just like when they scheduled Becky and Steve's wedding against Comic Relief and then spent three weeks promoting the hell out of it.”

I seem to remember one of the Richard Hillman episodes was opposite Comic Relief and that got a huge rating.
James J
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by gottago:
“I seem to remember one of the Richard Hillman episodes was opposite Comic Relief and that got a huge rating.”

More people knew about that storyline though, and it was better.
iaindb
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Wryip:
“Do you mean TISWAS I didn't realise that had returned.”

Ha ha Never twigged the similarity when I typed it.

The Impressions Show With Culshaw And Stephenson to give it its full, clumsy title.
Andy23
19-11-2009
Isn't Children in Need a week later than last year? Plus tonight's concert was arranged at relatively short notice, the Corrie storyline will have been planned months in advance.

If CiN was held at the same time as last year we wouldn't have any of the clashes between Corrie, EastEnders, I'm a Celeb etc neither this week or next week
GeorgeS
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Isn't Children in Need a week later than last year? Plus tonight's concert was arranged at relatively short notice, the Corrie storyline will have been planned months in advance.

If CiN was held at the same time as last year we wouldn't have any of the clashes between Corrie, EastEnders, I'm a Celeb etc neither this week or next week”

I thought CiN was always the 3rd Friday of November. It just happens that Nov 1st was a Sunday this year.

Anway as Father Ted would say you can praise God by leaving the room Dougal. In the same way you can contribute to CiN without watching it, cant you?
iaindb
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Isn't Children in Need a week later than last year? Plus tonight's concert was arranged at relatively short notice, the Corrie storyline will have been planned months in advance.

If CiN was held at the same time as last year we wouldn't have any of the clashes between Corrie, EastEnders, I'm a Celeb etc neither this week or next week”

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I thought CiN was always the 3rd Friday of November. It just happens that Nov 1st was a Sunday this year.

Anway as Father Ted would say you can praise God by leaving the room Dougal. In the same way you can contribute to CiN without watching it, cant you?”

Just text "DONATE" to 70077 and you've given them a fiver.

Last year CIN was Nov 14th, the second Friday of the month and there was no clash with IAC.

In 2007 CIN was on Nov 16th, the third Friday of the month, but effectively the same weekend. There was a clash with IAC. IAC was clearly on a week later last year.

This year CIN back to the third Friday of the month. I imagine the date is decided well in advance for Corrie to plan how to take it on, but the concert would have caught them unawares.
GeorgeS
19-11-2009
Interesting choice of leads on the 3 news bulletins tonight. BBC1 lead with the new EU president, ITV with Swine Flu and Sky News with the North of England flooding.

I'm amazed ITV didnt lead with the floods which I think would give the strongest start to NaT. I also wish ITV would start NaT without any ads as soon as Celebrity ended.
iaindb
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Interesting choice of leads on the 3 news bulletins tonight. BBC1 lead with the new EU president, ITV with Swine Flu and Sky News with the North of England flooding.

I'm amazed ITV didnt lead with the floods which I think would give the strongest start to NaT. I also wish ITV would start NaT without any ads as soon as Celebrity ended.”

I'm amazed they didn't lead with "Jordan wears a bikini in the jungle. We have an exclusive interview with Ant and Dec."

Or possibly:

"Weatherfield man talks of near-drowning."

Steve Williams
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Well as Let's Dance only ran for an hour each week (IIRC) it could easily air Monday 9pm and Tue-Thu 8pm. I don't think the BBC would care much about going against the soaps on the Thursday. If they do it could air at 9pm and The Apprentice air on Wednesday at 9pm instead.”

Well, Just The Two Of Us, even though everyone's forgotten it, was stripped over the week, the first series was on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday for two weeks, which was a bit stupid as it seemed a bit of a hopeless compromise and nobody could work out when it was or wasn't on. The second series was daily, but it started on January 2nd so there wasn't much to have to fiddle about with, and it was over in a week - although opposite Soapstar Superstar on some nights. So there's nothing to stop them stripping this over a week, like Fame Academy, and the Beeb aren't averse to running stuff around the news (which ITV could have done with IAC to avoid messing around with Corrie so much, and boost News at Ten). Although they won't.

Last time it was on 21st February to 14th March, did we ever confirm that? And the first episode thrashed The Colour of Money, you'll recall.
iaindb
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Last time it was on 21st February to 14th March, did we ever confirm that? And the first episode thrashed The Colour of Money, you'll recall.”

Correct and correct.
Fudd
19-11-2009
Celebrating the Carpenters did much better than I expected! I think working on the half hour helped it but messed up I'm A Celebrity a bit - I didn't realise last night's was a 90 minute show. Still good ratings for it, but there is a risk of the Katie Price show turning viewers off.

Waterloo Road appeared to be hit hard while in comparison Spooks held up ok. BBC2 did well, but Channel 4 and Five both limped on somewhat.
C14E
19-11-2009
Got a feeling that the concert have done really well tonight. If someone offered some decent odds, I'd put a little bet on it beating ITV across the 2 hours.

Robbie/Take That to start will have grabbed some of the EE audience plus Shirley Bassey and the Cheryl Cole duet at 9pm may have grabbed some of the Corrie audience.
Dancc
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Interesting choice of leads on the 3 news bulletins tonight. BBC1 lead with the new EU president, ITV with Swine Flu and Sky News with the North of England flooding.

I'm amazed ITV didnt lead with the floods which I think would give the strongest start to NaT. I also wish ITV would start NaT without any ads as soon as Celebrity ended.”

Sky News is yet again proving why it is #1 for breaking news. I'm currently observing a live web chat regarding the Cumbrian floods and guess which news outlet is getting all the praise?

Quote:
“[Comment From guest guest: ]
sky news doing a fantastic job on giving us upto date info
Thursday November 19, 2009 10:43 guest
10:43

[Comment From Iain (away down south) Iain (away down south) : ]
Lee....it seems to be better coverage on Sky
Thursday November 19, 2009 10:43 Iain (away down south)
10:43

[Comment From Guest Guest : ]
cockermouth on Sky now
Thursday November 19, 2009 10:43 Guest
10:44

[Comment From Guest Guest : ]
sky news channel 501
Thursday November 19, 2009 10:44 Guest
10:44

[Comment From guest guest : ]
Sky is the best for coverage on Cockermouth”

iaindb
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Celebrating the Carpenters did much better than I expected! I think working on the half hour helped it but messed up I'm A Celebrity a bit - I didn't realise last night's was a 90 minute show. Still good ratings for it, but there is a risk of the Katie Price show turning viewers off.

Waterloo Road appeared to be hit hard while in comparison Spooks held up ok. BBC2 did well, but Channel 4 and Five both limped on somewhat.”

KP is immune from the first eviction.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/celebrit...gle-axing.html
Fudd
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“KP is immune from the first eviction.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/celebrit...gle-axing.html”

She was never going to go first anyway. It's a good thing in a way because at least the others in Exile Camp will be seen doing something now!
Georged123
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Sky News is yet again proving why it is #1 for breaking news. I'm currently observing a live web chat regarding the Cumbrian floods and guess which news outlet is getting all the praise? ”

You do love your Sky News, dont you Dan?
Agent F
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Got a feeling that the concert have done really well tonight. If someone offered some decent odds, I'd put a little bet on it beating ITV across the 2 hours.”

I agree with you. I actually wouldn't be all that surprised at a 9m+ audience for the concert.
Dancc
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“You do love your Sky News, dont you Dan? ”

My viewpoint is irrelevant. Look at what others are saying. The BBC & ITV should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for the lack of coverage they gave to this story in their main bulletins tonight.

They'll be all over it tomorrow of course, but too little too late. Sky were first as usual with in-depth coverage all evening.
iaindb
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“My viewpoint is irrelevant. Look at what others are saying. The BBC & ITV should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for the lack of coverage they gave to this story in their main bulletins tonight.

They'll be all over it tomorrow of course, but too little too late. Sky were first as usual with in-depth coverage all evening.”

No puin intended, I take it.

ITV supposedly dropped Big Ben from the opening titles of News At Ten because they said it made them look London-centric, but yeah, I bet the floods would have been the main headline on both BBC1 and ITV1 if they happened in the south.
smile371
19-11-2009
I predicted 8.1m in the RPG, and was quite shocked to see everyone go alot lower, but we shall see tomorrow if it can pull in a mamoth audience. Dancc, I don't suppose you know what the highest and lowest predictions for the concert were do you?
Dancc
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by smile371:
“I predicted 8.1m in the RPG, and was quite shocked to see everyone go alot lower, but we shall see tomorrow if it can pull in a mamoth audience. Dancc, I don't suppose you know what the highest and lowest predictions for the concert were do you?”

Lowest- 4.2m
Average- 6.0m
Highest- 8.2m.

Average looks quite low to me.
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