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Ratings Thread (Part 5)
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Dancc
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by fodg09:
“Any Sky/BBC News Channel figures for the floods coverage?

Thanks.”

Haven't seen any so far, but I'd be very interested to know also.

Particularly for Thursday night when the BBC was focussed on Europe and almost completely ignoring the significant developing story back home.
Dancc
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Bit off-topic, but what sort of X Factor protest did Calvin Harris make?”

Are you talking about this?

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/showbiz...6908-21825386/
Agent F
22-11-2009
A bit of self-promotion dressed up as a 'protest'.
Pizzatheaction
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Are you talking about this?

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/showbiz...6908-21825386/”

LOL!

That's a bit random!
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“A bit of self-promotion dressed up as a 'protest'.”

And a peculiar way of doing it!
Dancc
22-11-2009
I wonder if today's 9-1 thriller at White Hart Lane will do much for MOTD2's ratings.

It's a shame the lead-in has to come from a Miranda repeat rather than Top Gear.
RobbieSykes123
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Bit off-topic, but what sort of X Factor protest did Calvin Harris make?”

He did a full interview with Chris Moyles on R1 where he explained that he was making a protest at the Cowellisation of the British music industry. Good on him (and on Moyles/Radio 1 for actually broadcasting something other than TXF puffery).

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Haven't seen any so far, but I'd be very interested to know also.

Particularly for Thursday night when the BBC was focussed on Europe and almost completely ignoring the significant developing story back home.”

Yes, well the Ten is the nation's flagship news programme and tends to take a broadsheet view of things (albeit to a mass audience) and not ITV's Daily Mirror "human interest" angle. Most of Friday's papers led on the EU stitch-up, not the flooding. Anyway, the floods story was really for Friday not 10pm Thursday, and from what I've seen, you can't complain about the BBC not devoting significant coverage to this important story - half the newsroom seems to be in Cockermouth...

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I wonder if today's 9-1 thriller at White Hart Lane will do much for MOTD2's ratings.”

And if you don't want to know the score, look aw.. - ah, bit late.
Andy23
22-11-2009
Good ratings for ITV1 again last night, they are really having a high rating Autumn.

Interesting that the peak for I'm a Celeb wasn't at the start, meaning it wasn't just a case of X Factor viewers forgetting to turn off

Odd though that the peak for SCD wasn't at the end. It means some people are watching the show but not bothering watching the result. BBC1's scheduling of SCD has backfired on a massive scale this year.
Pizzatheaction
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“He did a full interview with Chris Moyles on R1 where he explained that he was making a protest at the Cowellisation of the British music industry. Good on him (and on Moyles/Radio 1 for actually broadcasting something other than TXF puffery).”

Ah! I didn't hear about that either! I must be spending too much time looking at TV ratings on the Internet!
Agent F
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“He did a full interview with Chris Moyles on R1 where he explained that he was making a protest at the Cowellisation of the British music industry. Good on him (and on Moyles/Radio 1 for actually broadcasting something other than TXF puffery).”

By jumping on stage and garnering the show even more publicity? Bizarre form of protesting if you ask me. I bet the man has never been so talked about in his life.
Andy23
22-11-2009
Channel 4's terrible ratings are interesting. It seems that as people have been focusing so much on ITV that Channel 4's decline has gone relatively unnoticed

Most of the people elsewhere on this forum haven't noticed either (You still get those 'ITV or ShITV as I call it lol, is rubbish, I never watch it, they should axe it lol!!!1111' threads starting at least once a day)

A few years ago during the Love Island fiasco, some people were predicting that Channel 4 would come close to becoming the number 1 commercial tv channel. At this rate, Five or ITV2 will over take them.
D.M.N.
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“ITV press office has Corrie on 730-8pm on thursday 17th dec so i guess that could be another clash”

ITV scared that Coronation Street might lose to Countryfile so they are moving it to face EastEnders maybe?

I guess Corrie and Countryfile do overlap the older demographic slightly although I don't think this'll impress soap fans.

Clicking onto the description, also says 7:30pm to 8:00pm. The only reasoning I could possibly think of is a drama from 20:30 to 22:00... unless they have an hour and a half special of The Bill to 'catch up' as such?

Originally Posted by fodg09:
“Any Sky/BBC News Channel figures for the floods coverage?

Thanks.”

This probably doesn't help at all, but I know that in the 21:00 to 21:15 quarter hour on Friday, BBC News had 40,000 (0.15%) viewers, while Sky News had 30,000 (0.11%) viewers

Not entirely respresentative given that both news channels would have been up against I'm a Celebrity and Children in Need at that point.

I also noted that between 18:00 and 19:30, there were no actual adverts on ITV1.

- 18:15 junction had 'The X Factor' phone numbers.
- 18:30 junction had ITV ident only.
- 18:45 junction had ITV ident and promo only.
- 19:00 junction had 'The X Factor' recap.
- 19:15 junction had ITV ident and promos only.

As thus, All Star Family Fortunes started at 19:13.
GeorgeS
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“He did a full interview with Chris Moyles on R1 where he explained that he was making a protest at the Cowellisation of the British music industry. Good on him (and on Moyles/Radio 1 for actually broadcasting something other than TXF puffery).”

Chris Moyles Show - the home of hard news & investigation!

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“ Anyway, the floods story was really for Friday not 10pm Thursday”

Only the arrogance of the BBC would make a natural disater make an appointment to return 24 hours later because they are busy today. Thank God for Sky News!

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“I also noted that between 18:00 and 19:30, there were no actual adverts on ITV1.”

Saving them for 7.30 to 10.30
Agent F
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Only the arrogance of the BBC would make a natural disater make an appointment to return 24 hours later because they are busy today. Thank God for Sky News!”

That made me laugh out loud.
James J
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Bit off-topic, but what sort of X Factor protest did Calvin Harris make?”

He jumped on the stage during Jedward's performance and flailed about a little.
Chris1964
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I've always had a tendency to support the BBC, I guess it's because they're in so many ways the underdog that I naturally cheer for them - particularly when they were putting out so many good shows in the 90s and getting routinely pasted in the ratings night after night by ITV. But then ITV did put out good stuff consistently in those days.

I suspect if you went back through Ratings Thread 1 you'd see how often I slated the Beeb; I still do of course, but it's not noticed because I'm more often poking fun at ITV and its cheerleaders in a forelorn attempt to balance things up on this thread - and on pro-ITV DS generally...



Hm, I think you have a bigger interest than that. You clearly work somewhere within the ITV hierarchy - and you've never actually denied it when i've put it to you before. Come on GeorgeS - spell it out, do you have an interest to declare or can you categorically state that you do not?



Does the evidence of Antiques Roadshow maintaining 6m against TXF suggest otherwise? Assuming Cowell allows those twins to be voted off (a big "if" obviously), then TXF may have passed its peak before the final anyway...”

Your right but at least in the nineties BBC had Eastenders bringing in at times huge audiences. If you look back to the pre-Eastenders early eighties the BBC were in a far worse predicament. Having lost a number of big seventies stars and with no soap as such they went through a dreadful period which I remember was subject to quite alot of press attention at the time.. If you take a look at

http://www.barb.co.uk/facts/since198...008&view=top10

and the years 1981 to 83 only two BBC shows got into the yearly top 10 (the much now derided Last of the Summer Wine and To the Manor Born-not counting the Royal Wedding) and ITV were dominant to an extent that might have made the BBC bashers on here desperately trying to come up with ideas for them rather than ITV. BBC1 had a formless weekday schedule and ITV a much more regimented half hour/hour range of programmes which pretty much won or was in contention to win all slots.
Pizzatheaction
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“ITV scared that Coronation Street might lose to Countryfile so they are moving it to face EastEnders maybe? ”

I'm hoping it's just a mistake on the website, but it is quite late for such a mistake, as the schedules will be released tomorrow.

Has anyone kept track of whether ITV will be ahead of or behind where they should be with Coronation St episodes by that point? They've moved it around the schedules so much in the last month or two.
Pizzatheaction
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Your right but at least in the nineties BBC had Eastenders bringing in at times huge audiences. If you look back to the pre-Eastenders early eighties the BBC were in a far worse predicament. Having lost a number of big seventies stars and with no soap as such they went through a dreadful period which I remember was subject to quite alot of press attention at the time.. If you take a look at

http://www.barb.co.uk/facts/since198...008&view=top10

and the years 1981 to 83 only two BBC shows got into the yearly top 10 (the much now derided Last of the Summer Wine and To the Manor Born-not counting the Royal Wedding) and ITV were dominant to an extent that might have made the BBC bashers on here desperately trying to come up with ideas for them rather than ITV. BBC1 had a formless weekday schedule and ITV a much more regimented half hour/hour range of programmes which pretty much won or was in contention to win all slots.”

The BBC1 schedules were a mess before the Feb 1985 revamp. I remember cartoons were often played between the news and the first programme of the evening schedule!
dubsj
22-11-2009
As things stand on the 13th Dec - Snooker is 2100-2300.
No Top Gear. MOTD2 moves to BBC ONE.

Will be confirmed tomorrow.
iaindb
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Wait, from next weeks it's the public only that decide?

Mind, you for the past few weeks its been taken to deadlock anyway...”

Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Funnily enough the Radio Times description for next week's show is saying the judges vote is remaining:



But it wouldn't be the quarter-finals it'd be the semi-final wouldn't it?

I'm also wondering how they intend to fill an hour if they're dropping the judges vote next week.”

Originally Posted by Agent F:
“It usually is that way from previous series. Which is a little bit fairer because otherwise the judges would effectively get to decide who gets to be in the final.”

Originally Posted by Cent:
“This weekend had the final judges vote last year.”

Originally Posted by C14E:
“They could reopen the phone lines and have the public vote on the sing off.

Or just do the results the way American Idol does them, dragging it out a bit.”

Originally Posted by scotch:
“Yeah, I'm sure Dermot said last night that tonight would be the last time that the judges would decide who goes”

Originally Posted by Agent F:
“I did think the former but time would be very tight. They usually close the lines about ten or fifteen minutes before they announce the result so as to give them enough time.”

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“So, to make it fairer, shift the result into the 2nd and 3rd segments - have Guest Performer #2 in the final segment and the final result?

You can't open the lines before the bottom 2 have performed, because that'd be unfair on whomever performs second.”

This is a ratings thread. All these comments should be in somewhere in the X Factor forum.


Meanwhile, back in the world of ratings:

Methinks there is a good chance that tonight's repeat of Life will rate higher than last Monday's first showing. Recent Sunday episodes have had more than 4m viewers whilst Last Monday it had 3.8m.
Cent
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“This is a ratings thread. All these comments should be in somewhere in the X Factor forum.


Meanwhile, back in the world of ratings:

Methinks there is a good chance that tonight's repeat of Life will rate higher than last Monday's first showing. Recent Sunday episodes have had more than 4m viewers whilst Last Monday it had 3.8m.”

I'd say discussing the running length of the number 1 TV show is just about as relevant as it gets for a ratings thread.
newkid30
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“The BBC1 schedules were a mess before the Feb 1985 revamp. I remember cartoons were often played between the news and the first programme of the evening schedule!”

I used to really look forward to the cartoons after the news , showing my age!!
RobbieSykes123
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by Cent:
“I'd say discussing the running length of the number 1 TV show is just about as relevant as it gets for a ratings thread.”

I think the next Wallace & Gromit adventure will be 30 minutes again...

Agree with iandb re the minor details of TXF - not for this forum. Why not give us a running commentary on each night's performances, which could have obvious ratings implications after all?

Originally Posted by newkid30:
“I used to really look forward to the cartoons after the news , showing my age!!”

I seem to remember not too long ago that BBC1 moved Neighbours to 7pm during Wimbledon and/or Summer Olympics/Commonwealth Games (?) which meant a nightly cartoon at 7.25 for 2 weeks! Late 90s? Early 2000s?
Agent F
22-11-2009
As far as I'm concerned it's no more irrelevant than debating whether BBC News should have led with the flooding on Thursday night. You can't pick and choose what should be allowed and what shouldn't.
square_eyes
22-11-2009
Talking of running orders, I'd have had Su Bo appearing after Mariah on XF tonight.

After all, Su Bo is the bigger star.
GeorgeS
22-11-2009
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Talking of running orders, I'd have had Su Bo appearing after Mariah on XF tonight.

After all, Su Bo is the bigger star.”

Mariah threatened to set the 20 white doves of peace on Su Bo if that happened.
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