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give Lloyd a break....
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ranbowmagic
25-10-2009
I don't get why she put through boring Rikki over Ethan?!?!

Ethan had everything going for him and would be getting through each week, so wish he had been put through.
Ficklepickle
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by bubbsy:
“Lloyd is too similar to last year's Eoghan. Cute kid getting screaming teen girls' (multiple) votes, who has an okay voice that's drowned out by background music.”

He's far easier on the eye, gotta give him that much...

Eoghan... *VOMIT SMILEY*
Viridiana
25-10-2009
Worse than the Twins, no doubt about it. Should have been out this week.
oathy
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by ranbowmagic:
“I don't get why she put through boring Rikki over Ethan?!?!

Ethan had everything going for him and would be getting through each week, so wish he had been put through. ”

thats the biggest mistake she did for sure..

I cant help get the feeling Mr Young was thinking more of someone like him out in the market when he advised her to leave him alone.
bluerose15
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by oathy:
“Its the Tele tubbie look he gives when the phone number comes up...

the guy has the looks but the personality of a dustbin

he never puts ANY emotion or feeling into a song IMO thats his main failure he sings totally flat without any emotion on show”

I find his performances are full of emotion..but not for the right reasons

He is so terrified and uncomfortable...i always feel so horribly sorry for him, he is just so lost...

makes me love him even more really..
ranbowmagic
25-10-2009
When I looked at Eoghan I honestly felt sick, egghhhh at least Lloyd is good looking!!
N X M
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by ranbowmagic:
“When I looked at Eoghan I honestly felt sick, egghhhh at least Lloyd is good looking!!”

And that's why Lloyd will be on the front of the magazines, in the same way that JLS are this year, and why Eggnog never will be

I think Lloyd's a far better singer than Eggnog anyway...and I say that having liked a lot of Eggnog's performances...
LaurieMarlow
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by bluerose15:
“No wrong...

He has been given rubbish song choices far out of his range..

How on earth was he ment to do well with a song like bleeding love....?

You cant give an act a song out of thier range...and expect them to rock it...its impossible”

No, right.

He's just not very good. His choices (apart from bleeding love) are easy to sing and have been performed very well in the past. His voice is not unpleasant, but in no way strong enough to be a solo artist. He'd be okay in a band. His performance abilities are pretty underwhelming.

He does have the look. I suppose he is marketable from that point of view but a recording contract would be utterly wasted on him.
scotsbluebell
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by bubbsy:
“Lloyd is too similar to last year's Eoghan. Cute kid getting screaming teen girls' (multiple) votes, who has an okay voice that's drowned out by background music.”

Why is the teen girls' vote less important than anyone else's?

Plenty of boybands/artistes have made it big due to young girls buying their music.

I disagree that he is similar to Eoghan - he has a much more unique tone to his voice, and is a very good looking young lad.

I don't think he will win, but he does deserve to be there still.

and oh... I'm no teen girl - but a 40 something Mum with a teenage daughter.
bubbsy
26-10-2009
Originally Posted by scotsbluebell:
“Why is the teen girls' vote less important than anyone else's?”

I never said it was.

In general, teen girls will vote multiple times for the same person. Kids like Lloyd who are getting a high proportion of teen girls votes end up with votes that don't reflect their true fanbase.

Just look at Eoghan's album sales and why many people were saying where are all his fans now? Because he didn't have as many in the first place. It was mostly teen girls hitting redial. Same with Lloyd.
marc822
26-10-2009
I really hope lloyds picks up and gets better. He has been dreadful to watch over the last few weeks. Cheryl really needs to get it right for next week, otherwise hes a gonner.
seellee
26-10-2009
Originally Posted by bluerose15:
“The poor boy is not as bad as the twins....how can people say he is worse?

He is a better singer, sure he does not have the confidence but with time confidence will build.

He has performed badly due to song choice, come on cry me a river, bleeding love....may be some of the worst song picks in history!

Give him an accousic number, no silly dancing and he will shine.

Also to be honest Lloyd is one of the only people who are marketable in this competition, regardless of what people think his looks will sell albums”


I'm glad his looks will, because his voice will not!

I don't even think the song choices are to blame the fact is he can't sing very well. Most of the people who I know, who like him, don't care about his voice!!

I don't know why most of his fans just don't be honest and admit they couldn't care less what his voice is like and say that they fancy the pants off him!!
moggi
26-10-2009
When last I looked Lloyd had the most Facebook Fans 71 000 +. Second was Stacey with 59 000 +. All others had in the region of 20 000 with J & E only 2 000 or so.
seellee
26-10-2009
Originally Posted by moggi:
“When last I looked Lloyd had the most Facebook Fans 71 000 +. Second was Stacey with 59 000 +. All others had in the region of 20 000 with J & E only 2 000 or so.”

Doesn't make him a good singer. I'm willing to bet 95% of that 71,000 fancy the pants off him. He could sing the phone book, murder it and still do well on the X-Factor.
bluerose15
26-10-2009
Originally Posted by seellee:
“Doesn't make him a good singer. I'm willing to bet 95% of that 71,000 fancy the pants off him. He could sing the phone book, murder it and still do well on the X-Factor.”

Probably lol
Phoebica
26-10-2009
Originally Posted by moggi:
“When last I looked Lloyd had the most Facebook Fans 71 000 +. Second was Stacey with 59 000 +. All others had in the region of 20 000 with J & E only 2 000 or so.”

Oh, well in that case he should definitely win

I've got nothing against Lloyd personally, he seems like a nice boy, and he is cute, if i was 15 i'd probably fancy him.

BUT he just doesn't have the voice. The 3 guys Cheryl turned down have more talent than him, although i can see whay she put him through, he is marketable.
mashedpotatoes
26-10-2009
Originally Posted by realshocks:
“He is utterly garbage; without doubt the worst contestant on any talent show in the world ever.”

He's dreadful - to me the twins have more talent - at least they ooze confidence and a bit of oomph and don't pretend they can sing.
Rach1989
26-10-2009
I like Lloyd, but I don't that Cheryl actually 'gets' him. His 'Cry me a river' was good, a little stiff, but I just put it down to nerves. After that Cheryl seems to have got it wrong consistently. He's a good singer just been given the wrong songs. I think Cheryl needs to really sit back and think what she's going to do about Lloyd in the next few weeks if she wants him to stay in the competition.
However, personally I don't think she's too bothered, she's made it clear that her favourite this year is definatley Joe IMO she see's Llyod as only there to make up her numbers this year.
bluerose15
26-10-2009
Listen to lloyd singing she's the one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-F-vtKK464

He can sing (admittedly not a fantastic singer but he can hold a tune)

From that clip you can tell he has the voice to be pop star (dont need a very good voice to be one)
Caudlehalbard
26-10-2009
This is not just a singing contest - it's about who has that elusive 'X factor'............ which I take to be overall general appeal to the public.

Which is why Lloyd will probably stay in for a long time and Danyl may well go out next week.
annieka123
26-10-2009
Originally Posted by bluerose15:
“Also to be honest Lloyd is one of the only people who are marketable in this competition, regardless of what people think his looks will sell albums”

This is a talent competition. LLoyd is not a great singer though he has a nice voice but no better than lots of young lads in Wales that I've heard. I realize all the teens think he is 'hot' but I would never buy an album because the guy on the cover looked 'hot'. Ok John and Edward are not better singers but they are far better entertainers overall. LLoyd - I honestly think - could not hold an audience for a live stadium concert. I don't think he is ready for that kind of thing and I agree with what one of the judges said the other week, he would be perfect in a boyband.

No offence, but my impression is that his main fanbase are teenage girls who think he is hot and all have mad crushes on him. Crushes are only temporary though and I can't see it lasting till the next hot guy comes along.
Hogzilla
26-10-2009
I think we're seeing this truth emerge, this year - having the 'x factor' may or may not involve being a great singer - it's more about charisma/being watchable. Lloyd not only has a weak, reedy, amateur sounding voice but all the charisma of a bucket of cold porridge.

In other words - he can neither sing nor entertain us. Why he wasn't in the bottom 2 last night I'll never know.
mandyxxxx
26-10-2009
I don't think Lloyd is "rubbish" or "terrible" or any of the other very strong descriptions some are using to describe him.
He is a talented boy.
The trouble is, he isn't brilliant either, nor is he very talented. He has a pleasant but not outstanding voice.

He is getting votes because of his "cuteness" rather than because of exceptional performances. Not his fault of course, so no need to be vindictive, but on the otherhand, no need to vote for him either

Someone said earlier that his looks would sell albums - not entirely sure why anyone would buy an album because someone looked cute....go and see them live, watch them on TV, queue outside television studios for an autograph maybe.
jaybs
26-10-2009
Lloyd for his age is amazing, Eoghan acted and seemed very young, while Lloyd does adult and you can tell he puts 110% into his vocal, if that is enough to be the winner I'm not yet sure, but Lloyd has a future, he has an different vocal and I don't think as Louis stated he is only boy band material.
squadge
26-10-2009
Sorry - lloyd is no better and no worse a singer than J&E. He is, however, boring. Unfortunately, there are far to many people in the top 10 the past couple of years who have no business being even in boot camp.
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