He basically said that they are a joke.

Funny how he never said this last year when the favourite Laura White went out or a couple of years ago when he put his own "Conway Sisters" through ahead of the highly fancied Maria Lawson.

Simon has had a female act do well in America and now he wants a male to further boost his ego, hehas already had Danyl over to America appearing on TV.
This is very pretentious and people don't like it, why not concentrate on acts that will do well in the UK after all it is our show. Mmmmmm I forgot something- more money available in America.

That type of music that Danyl is singing is not the type that would do well here.

Hes trying to get as much money out of the public that he can, doesnt care what we want at all. Hes chosen Danyl and by hook or by Crook he was trying everything to get him through and will continue to do so just hope the public dont circume. In the meantime he is pocketing phone money ect .

I was under the impression that it was a businesses core priority to maximise profits. The show afterall is operated by a business not a charity.

It has already been proven that the likes of Lloyd, who the tweens vote en mass for are fickle and thus are good for a quick buck and nothing more, the tweens move on to another hawt lad a few months after the show has finished.

Therefore its only natural that he will root for the one who he believes is more commercially viable. Arguably however there are only a few acts this year who are.


Also, its not our show, its simons to do with what he pleases. We have no say or sway in it.

Simon himself is becoming a joke. If he's so desperate for Danyl to win, why does he even bother having a talent contest where the public can vote?

I've always had huge respect for Simon, thought of him as one of the most honest, reliable personalities on television, but now I'm starting to see him for what he really is and I don't like it at all. Shows like X Factor and Britain's Got Talent used to be a lot of fun, now they're just about Simon pushing his own favourite onto the public so that he can make as much money as possible.

Didn't he learn from the Susan Boyle experience? Do not attempt to force an act down our throats because the public will retaliate with the complete opposite!

I agree however without an audience he would not have a show really. He needs the public to be interested; no publicity is bad publicity. What is happening now is publicity for the show. Simon is more than aware of this and it is either attracting viewers or turning some off the show.

Simon always insults the viewing public when it doesnt go his way. Although sometimes I think that Danyl is not actually the chosen one - smoke and mirrors?

This year is not any different.

So I guess you are saying that nobody should vote ? A very bold statement but obviously what you believe if you think we as the public have no sway.

So your concept of the show as you say maximising profits but having no sway is as follows.

Simon decides who he wants to win.
The public pump lots of money into it for the prize money.
Their opinion / vote doesn't count so Simon chooses who he wants to win anyway.

Mmmmm sounds like a rather naive business plan to me

And i have also noticed he is slagging people off like stacey and lucie every week because they could be a threat later on

Susan may not have won but she came second to an act that were hardly competing for a record deal and her sales promise to be astronomical and that is enough for Simon.

He didn't predict that Susan's audition would take off the way it did but it did and he attempted the same thing with Danyl. To be honest, I think there are other contestants that he would rather see win in terms of marketability and I don't for a second believe that he would put a contestant that he genuinely wanted to win in Danyl's position. He has always bigged up one contestant or another in all his shows but it has reached new heights with Danyl and the biggest difference is that, unlike in the other cases, the majority of people aren't seeing what he is seeing (or pretends to be seeing). Still I believe that the intention with Danyl's audition was to promote the show in America with a view to Simon currently being in talks for an American version. The more interest in the show from the American public, the more money he can negotiate for the rights.

Danyl's foray into American TV proved a let down because the American public were hugely uninterested. In fact I have been surprised to see over the weekend when Danyl performing Feeling Good was being commented on on some American sites, due to the fact that it was performed on this season's American Idol, that the largest reaction was "Who? Never heard of him". This about a guy who appeared on one America's most watched shows and was supposedly lined up for an appearance on Oprah.

Simon will back him for so long.

Terry Wogan said a few minutes ago on his radio show that SImon Cowell has turned into Satan.... Wogan said that like in Strictly Come Dancing, the viewing public will often do the opposite of what the judges are trying to influence them to do!!!

Greed and ego.

Almost; the show is manipulated and its quite easy for them to encourage how the vote will sway. In that sense its a very clever business plan.

Read chart throb, while a work of fiction it is pretty much exactly how these shows work.

I'd almost like Danyl to win just to see Simon's reaction when Danyl has nil sales because no one wants to buy his music! Problem is, I don't actually want Danyl to win.

simon cowell only says what he thinks and i think he loves danyl and thinks he is great. end of. last nights results were a shock - i was shocked. one of simon cowells strong points is listening to what the audience thinks and how they react to acts in a live situation. people who have seen the live shows say that when danyl performs there is an atmosphere he creates which rises way above the atmosphere created by the other acts. maybe this doesn't translate well to tv. but i believe simon cowell has picked up on this and hence why he was so shocked that people watching on tv dont pick up on it.

How did he insult the voting public? lets say lloyd and john and edward were in the final 2 and both sang badly for their place in the finals and simon cowell got booed for saying anything bad about them because that would be insulting the voting public. cmon. the reason he is respected is for his opinions and because he doesn't back down from being honest. what if he had suddenly changed is opinion about danyl and said danyl performed badly, bad song choice, not surprised he is in the bottom 2 - as so many on this forum seem to believe. would he be more respected then? even though he didnt believe it and was only saying it to be popular?

AND VERY IMPORTANT.....Danyl never went to America and it wasn't Cowell who requested the interview. A show in the states ... along the lines of the Susan Boyle effect.... picked up on the amount of youtube views danyls first audition had had and they wanted in on the act, thinking this could be the new susan boyle, the latest import from uk talent shows. The interview was done via satellite. There were loads of requests from the states for more interviews with this new youtube 'phenomenon' and yet cowell put his foot down and would not let him do these interviews as it would be unfair on other contestants. So the Americans had already hyped him up before Cowell had any say.

Has he?
Is this true?

not true. i have added to the post above yours explaining what actually happened.

You have to love Simon - he is really good at getting people to talk about him.

I would like to correct my previous post, I know that Cowell had arranged for him to go on Oprah Winfrey and Today in USA but apparently the ITV producers banned it as it would be deemed unfair, however it clearly shows Cowells intentions.


X FACTOR sensation Danyl Johnson has been BANNED from appearing on TV in America.
The bisexual crooner, 27, had been lined up to appear on The Oprah Winfrey Show.

But ITV producers refused to allow him on over fears it will give him an unfair advantage.

But X Factor producers and ITV didn't like the idea. They reckoned it would be unfair on the other acts as they are only supposed to be judged on what they do on the show."

Danyl is favourite to win the series after his storming performance on the opening show.

Simon told the teacher he was the best first audition he'd ever seen.

The ITV policy over TV appearances will be seen as a blow to this year's crop of X Factor hopefuls as appearing in the US is most singers' dream

Erm its the publics vote?? Excuse me but didnt the judges have a majority ruling to let J&E go through past auditions in the first place?? Its their fault!

The way the public have to vote has much to do with the final outcome. I've never understood why we are told to vote for our favourite. I think it would be better if we voted for the worst on the night.

Then why does he pretend that he respects the public's opinion and have a show based around a public vote?

If he's that important to him then he shouldn't have even put Danyl in the competition at all.
Instead he should have just signed him before the series started without the pretense of this being a fair and above board level playing field.

But no, it appears that Simon reckoned the voters would be a pushover to get them to vote as he wants.
He's probably become so arrogant that he genuinely believes that he really is a musical genius and the public will obviously just vote according to what he tells them to vote for.

If he doesn't like the risk of people not voting for Danyl then he simply shouldn't have put him in what is supposed to be a fair competition. He should have just signed him up before the series started.

I think that Simon really thought that he had this sewn up.
It worked with Leona who he pushed more than any other contestant ever. I'd argue that the voters (generally) probably liked Leona anyway and it wasn't even necessary to push her as much as he did as she could probably have won anyway.
But I think that his ego has led him to believe that the reason why the public voted for Leona was mainly down to his influence and so naturally it will be a piece of cake to do the same for Danyl.
At the moment Simon seems to really come across like the Kevin Bishop parody of him on 'Star Stories'.

I think that his apparent desperation to convince the viewers that we should vote for Danyl has become so overt and visible that it looks like his ego has made him afraid of losing credibility.
I wouldn't be surprised if he feels a fool after having that Clive Davis on last week.

It might be a 'crisis' to him, but I doubt that it's a crisis to the voters.

Except for the fact that he described Danyl's first audition as the 'best first audition' he had ever seen. The world's most famous talent judge saying that will have a massive effect on your popularity. And of course, Simon said that before the Americans had even seen the clip, and I'm in no doubt that the fact he did say it inspired many people to go and check it out.

Because it's based on fear of your favourite going out. More people will phone in to save their act rather than bothering to vote to sent someone home.

It's a business, ....simples

"Cowell insuted the voting public"


Simple answer to that is, stop voting and lining cowells pockets

terry wogan is not wrong

i think the problem is that now people are so sick of smug cowell telling us who to vote for that people are voting for jedward instead. ok, simon is still making money, but its worth it for the look on his face when they get safely through every week

perhaps if he stopped telling people what to do, people would be more inclined to vote for the better singers?