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Old 27-10-2009, 14:59
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I did mean the results in terms of who winds up in the bottom 2, but yes the judges (who are basically DS voters to double strength) do have their influence as well.

I genuinely don't understand how people need more than 15 minutes to make a phone call. Are you trying to dial the numbers with your face?

Depends on the wine bottle count!

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Old 27-10-2009, 15:02
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I think the bookies give a more accurate picture, but even they can get it wrong.

According to them Craig is a certainty to go this Sat by overwhelming odds, which goes against all his Blackpool hype.

Ricky and Natalie are to win ahead of Ali&Brian.
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Old 27-10-2009, 15:06
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I can understand non-release for the current series. Releasing percentages of the public vote might be a disincentive to further voting i.e. if your favourite couple was so low in percentage popularity it might appear almost a futile exercise to vote.

But I can't understand why previous series' percentages could not be released
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Old 27-10-2009, 15:12
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I can understand non-release for the current series. Releasing percentages of the public vote might be a disincentive to further voting i.e. if your favourite couple was so low in percentage popularity it might appear almost a futile exercise to vote.

But I can't understand why previous series' percentages could not be released
Maybe the actual number of votes cast would be an embarrassment - could be there are no more than three or four dozen viewers voting throughout the entire series!
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Old 27-10-2009, 15:17
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I never mentioned conspiracy - nor did I have it in mind. I meant transparency in the context of openness about which contestants the viewers' votes had gone to - no more than that.

I just don't understand why the figures have to be kept under wraps. Makes no sense to me. Does it make any to you? Doubtless I could be missing something
Sorry, I was responding more to the poster before you - don't know why I put your phrasing in quotes instead of theirs.

I think the figures are probably kept under wraps for a very good reason - it'd just re-open old wounds that have long since healed. Gethin might have been annihilating Alesha in the vote - Austin might have been annihilating Tom. Lisa might have been getting 0.00001% of the vote every week. Sarge might have been getting 99.9999%. People might have been very conveinetly kept out of the dance-off by a matter of 1 or 2 judges points etc etc.

Also it's probably best not to under-estimate how fragile the celebs egos can be. I'm not one to bang on about the quality of celebs, but it'd dip even further if people knew their popularity/unpopularity was being scrutinsed by the populace by the percentage point.

Personally I think it'd be more wank than it's worth.
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Old 27-10-2009, 16:37
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I did mean the results in terms of who winds up in the bottom 2, but yes the judges (who are basically DS voters to double strength) do have their influence as well.

I genuinely don't understand how people need more than 15 minutes to make a phone call. Are you trying to dial the numbers with your face?
no its just more time for others to get through
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Old 27-10-2009, 16:43
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no its just more time for others to get through
It wouldnt make a difference to the percentage each celebrity gets.
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Old 27-10-2009, 20:05
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I genuinely don't understand how people need more than 15 minutes to make a phone call. Are you trying to dial the numbers with your face?

Not at all - but I tried for all of the 15 minutes on Saturday and kept getting the rcorded message "sorry, lines are busy". In previous series it was possible to leave it for half an hour or so and try again, so eliciting a higher vote possibly.
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Old 27-10-2009, 21:11
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Not at all - but I tried for all of the 15 minutes on Saturday and kept getting the rcorded message "sorry, lines are busy". In previous series it was possible to leave it for half an hour or so and try again, so eliciting a higher vote possibly.
Again it is irrelevant as a Ricky voter (take your pick ) is no more likely to get the engaged signal as a Craig voter or a Zoe voter etc.

The percentages will remain the same.
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Old 27-10-2009, 21:15
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I can quite see why they wouldn't choose to release voting figures for the current season, but why on earth not for previous series? They may be under no obligation to do so, but what have they got to lose by releasing them retrospectively?


Because as monkseal said people wouldn't want to do the show if anyone could look up their results on the internet and find that only 2% of the voters liked them.

You would also have the winners who won because more popular people went and the judges would blamed.
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Old 27-10-2009, 21:18
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Do they not have to release voting percentages to prove there is no cheating going on. How else do we know that the correct people are in the bottom two and that the judges and the BBC don't select the bottom two to create ratings - not beyond the Beeb to manipulate these things

i know i know conspiracy theories lol
I think they get round that by having the votes verified by an independent expert - I'm sure I've read that some where.

I'd say one big difference between the people on here and other SCD boards like the BBC board, is that there will be a much higher number of people supporting the pro dancer, than in the general voting public.
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Old 27-10-2009, 22:21
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I did mean the results in terms of who winds up in the bottom 2, but yes the judges (who are basically DS voters to double strength) do have their influence as well.

I genuinely don't understand how people need more than 15 minutes to make a phone call. Are you trying to dial the numbers with your face?
Why how do you dial?
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Old 28-10-2009, 08:02
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Sorry, I was responding more to the poster before you - don't know why I put your phrasing in quotes instead of theirs.
I think the figures are probably kept under wraps for a very good reason - it'd just re-open old wounds that have long since healed. Gethin might have been annihilating Alesha in the vote - Austin might have been annihilating Tom. Lisa might have been getting 0.00001% of the vote every week. Sarge might have been getting 99.9999%. People might have been very conveinetly kept out of the dance-off by a matter of 1 or 2 judges points etc etc.

Also it's probably best not to under-estimate how fragile the celebs egos can be. I'm not one to bang on about the quality of celebs, but it'd dip even further if people knew their popularity/unpopularity was being scrutinsed by the populace by the percentage

Personally I think it'd be more wank than it's worth.
TBH my mention of "conspiracy theories" was done very "tongue in cheek" - having posted on here for a good number of years now I knew I would be accused of looking for the aforementioned "conspiracy" hence the mention lol
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Old 30-10-2009, 03:51
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You beat me to it.

There was a poster last year who claimed to have inside info from a source and, according to her, Tom was top of the public vote for most weeks apart from the John Sergeant furore. Christine was very popular too.

You'd never have guessed that Tom was so popular if you roamed the DS forum last year - he was not a fave to put it mildly
So the campaign team needs to be further a field than This forum?
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Old 30-10-2009, 04:49
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Unfortunately this forum means nothing nowadays. Opinions on here no longer mean a fig.

Back in series 2/3/4 (pre BBC boards) we had many hundreds of people having useful friendly debates and you could genuinely get a feel of who would win. This was the place to be. For example anyone who doubed that Ramps would win series 4 from about week 4 after reading these boards would be a mad person.

Back then we were quoted all the time by Claudia and quite a few members actually got to be on ITT. The celebs and pros used to post on here and did special things for us (Carole Smillie cam for example)

Nowadays, there's just a few people trying to shout louder than the others and the forum has just got negative and nasty. To be honest if you were involved in the show, would you want to read thiis stuff?

So in conclusion, it doesn't matter how much you jump up and down about a subject you find important. It no longer matters here. The general public ain't reading any more.
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Old 30-10-2009, 07:47
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Unfortunately this forum means nothing nowadays. Opinions on here no longer mean a fig.

Back in series 2/3/4 (pre BBC boards) we had many hundreds of people having useful friendly debates and you could genuinely get a feel of who would win. This was the place to be. For example anyone who doubed that Ramps would win series 4 from about week 4 after reading these boards would be a mad person.

Back then we were quoted all the time by Claudia and quite a few members actually got to be on ITT. The celebs and pros used to post on here and did special things for us (Carole Smillie cam for example)

Nowadays, there's just a few people trying to shout louder than the others and the forum has just got negative and nasty. To be honest if you were involved in the show, would you want to read thiis stuff?

So in conclusion, it doesn't matter how much you jump up and down about a subject you find important. It no longer matters here. The general public ain't reading any more.
I don`t think the BBC had their own forum on SCD at that time. Now Claudia seems to use quotes from there instead.
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Old 30-10-2009, 12:19
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Unfortunately this forum means nothing nowadays. Opinions on here no longer mean a fig.

Back in series 2/3/4 (pre BBC boards) we had many hundreds of people having useful friendly debates and you could genuinely get a feel of who would win. This was the place to be. For example anyone who doubed that Ramps would win series 4 from about week 4 after reading these boards would be a mad person.

Back then we were quoted all the time by Claudia and quite a few members actually got to be on ITT. The celebs and pros used to post on here and did special things for us (Carole Smillie cam for example)

Nowadays, there's just a few people trying to shout louder than the others and the forum has just got negative and nasty. To be honest if you were involved in the show, would you want to read thiis stuff?

So in conclusion, it doesn't matter how much you jump up and down about a subject you find important. It no longer matters here. The general public ain't reading any more.
Tom certainly wouldn't have wanted to read it - interestingly, the results of a poll on the SCD board for the final last year were: Tom 66%, Rachel 20% and Lisa 14% - prob completely different to here! But seemingly more in tune with what the 'insider' said regarding the public vote!
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Old 30-10-2009, 12:24
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I think the whole Matt/Alesha thing got a bit out of control with its nastiness in series 5, but I honestly think that series 6 and 7 have simply not had clear frontrunners in the way that Ramps led the pack in series 4, hence the lack of obvious support.

To be fair though, once the BBC had started up their own board it would make no sense to refer to an independent option on ITT, which is as much a vehicle for the show as any interactive option.

Plus, I don't post there, but isn't the BBC board meant to be even nastier than this one at times?
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Old 30-10-2009, 12:51
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I think the whole Matt/Alesha thing got a bit out of control with its nastiness in series 5, but I honestly think that series 6 and 7 have simply not had clear frontrunners in the way that Ramps led the pack in series 4, hence the lack of obvious support.

To be fair though, once the BBC had started up their own board it would make no sense to refer to an independent option on ITT, which is as much a vehicle for the show as any interactive option.

Plus, I don't post there, but isn't the BBC board meant to be even nastier than this one at times?
It's slightly better re. nastiness this year as, like DS, they've divided the boards. I don't think their discussions are as in depth as on here - long posts get criticised & the turnover of threads is too quick. It's better on here
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Old 30-10-2009, 13:03
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In answer to the question posed: I have no idea.
I don't vote any longer as there is no charitable element in the call-cost.

I think SCD is pretty representative of the voting and the polls always get it right. Same with "I'd do anything". Got that right too. It's Digital Spy. People who watch TV. I don't watch SCD because of the dancing alone by any means and you get all shades of opinion on here. It all balances out and does reflect the wider population. It's a very "human" programme (silly thing to say, I know) and the eventual winner appeals to lots of people for more reasons than dancing ability.

I'm not sure Kaplinsky would stand much chance in any series other than the first - not because she didn't learn to dance but because she seemed a lot more aloof than any subsequent winners or contenders. The programme has changed and personality is the deciding factor.
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Old 30-10-2009, 13:30
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In answer to the question posed: I have no idea.
I don't vote any longer as there is no charitable element in the call-cost.

I think SCD is pretty representative of the voting and the polls always get it right. Same with "I'd do anything". Got that right too. It's Digital Spy. People who watch TV. I don't watch SCD because of the dancing alone by any means and you get all shades of opinion on here. It all balances out and does reflect the wider population. It's a very "human" programme (silly thing to say, I know) and the eventual winner appeals to lots of people for more reasons than dancing ability.

I'm not sure Kaplinsky would stand much chance in any series other than the first - not because she didn't learn to dance but because she seemed a lot more aloof than any subsequent winners or contenders. The programme has changed and personality is the deciding factor.
Not sure I agree with the polls as last week Jade was in the lead on here
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Old 30-10-2009, 14:21
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Yes, but at this stage you can get unexpected people in the dance-off. People think they are safe. I am sure that happened to Zoe and Jade.

As time goes on then the sympathy votes disappear. I don't expect Jade to be in the dance-off again soon. Focus is sharpening on the end-game.
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Old 30-10-2009, 14:31
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Yes, but at this stage you can get unexpected people in the dance-off. People think they are safe. I am sure that happened to Zoe and Jade.

As time goes on then the sympathy votes disappear. I don't expect Jade to be in the dance-off again soon. Focus is sharpening on the end-game.
I would agree with this. We are moving into the stage where we get to see who the real contenders are and who has virtually reached their peak. If there is a duffer left that's when it gets nastier on here.
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Old 30-10-2009, 14:36
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Craig is really going to catch it if he's in much longer. Lots of fans here won't like that at all. Feeling the venom yet, Craig?

Not that I approve of the way the no-hopers are treated. I thought John S was shabbily abused on here last year.
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Old 30-10-2009, 14:42
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As much as I might moan about the no hopers, if that's how the public votes then so be it. Craig is no JS in his attitude to SCD and the judges seem a bit more reasonable to me this series, so any support for the underdog should drift away. Walking away from the show should never be an option.
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